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CO 1E May 11, 2009 9:39 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11729525)
Maybe. The real question is how many elites are booked into Y on the flight right now, not how many are showing on the list.

Assuming KNRG didn't pay the baksheesh and that they are not either of the two listed there are even more seats that should not be for sale. I think that CO effed up this implementation pretty good . . . . But it has definitely not been implemented as initially advertised based on the evidence that flows into the forum daily.

+1

Steph3n May 11, 2009 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11729567)
Hmmm, time to say Shenanigans?

not sure as of yet, one looks non rev, the other I am still :confused: why it would not be processed as EUA yet.

Hartmann May 11, 2009 9:41 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11729525)
Maybe. The real question is how many elites are booked into Y on the flight right now, not how many are showing on the list.

Assuming KNRG didn't pay the baksheesh and that they are not either of the two listed there are even more seats that should not be for sale. I think that CO effed up this implementation pretty good or they lied to us about the policy. But it has definitely not been implemented as initially advertised based on the evidence that flows into the forum daily.

I agree it's been a poor implementation and communication about the policy has been way less than stellar. Looking at the flight (#1087 tomorrow), it's now booked 20 out of 24. Since it's never been confirmed/denied, we could guess that those two extra people are paid upgrades.

Tomorrow around 5:00am we'll know what happened, as everyone should have checked-in by then.

The other person on the upgrade standby list could be a full Y fare too, which means they wouldn't get the upgrade until tomorrow, correct?

Steph3n May 11, 2009 9:43 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11729602)
I agree it's been a poor implementation and communication about the policy has been way less than stellar. Looking at the flight (#1087 tomorrow), it's now booked 20 out of 24. Since it's never been confirmed/denied, we could guess that those two extra people are paid upgrades.

Tomorrow around 5:00am we'll know what happened, as everyone should have checked-in by then.

The other person on the upgrade standby list could be a full Y fare too, which means they wouldn't get the upgrade until tomorrow, correct?

you mean full Y non elite. Elite full Y should already be seated up front.

sbm12 May 11, 2009 9:45 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11729602)
The other person on the upgrade standby list could be a full Y fare too, which means they wouldn't get the upgrade until tomorrow, correct?

I don't think so. I suppose a non-elite Y fare could be listed that way, but I truly do not know how they show on the list. Remember that the non-elite Y-up is now an unofficial/unlisted benefit so it behaves differently.

I guess I could test it by buying a ticket for my wife and checking her in and seeing what happens. Maybe later tonight if I'm bored.

Hartmann May 11, 2009 9:45 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11729619)
you mean full Y non elite. Elite full Y should already be seated up front.

Yes, I mean non-elite. I do not remember when they get the upgrade (check-in or arrival at gate).

KNRG May 11, 2009 9:46 am

Two people were added to the upgrade-cleared list, was at 14 now it's 16 (to make the 20).

colpuck May 11, 2009 9:48 am

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I am playing the j.ed bump game again. 14 in meal vouchers and 200 dl dollars gunning for 21 and 600.

KNRG May 11, 2009 9:49 am

And yup, buy-up's now says 4 seats for purchase.

sbm12 May 11, 2009 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11729628)
Yes, I mean non-elite. I do not remember when they get the upgrade (check-in or arrival at gate).

At the gate. Dead last in the revenue list. After GG certs and everything else.

sbm12 May 11, 2009 9:52 am


Originally Posted by KNRG (Post 11729634)
Two people were added to the upgrade-cleared list, was at 14 now it's 16 (to make the 20).

And we'll never know if they paid the $100 and jumped ahead of you as an elite. Whether something is actually fishy or not, it has the appearance of impropriety, which is just as bad.

Steph3n May 11, 2009 9:54 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11729681)
At the gate. Dead last in the revenue list. After GG certs and everything else.

if this is the case and 1 is a non rev and the other a non elite Y fare, I don't see that there is any problem in this. That is of course, IF that is a non elite Y fare and not a silver getting 'robbed', the standby and upgrade makes the other look like a non rev to me.

Steph3n May 11, 2009 9:55 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11729686)
And we'll never know if they paid the $100 and jumped ahead of you as an elite. Whether something is actually fishy or not, it has the appearance of impropriety, which is just as bad.

I don't think kNRG is elite due to a comment earlier :)

KNRG May 11, 2009 9:55 am

Quick chronology:

7am-ish. Offered buy-up as non elite, 5 seats avail for purchase, 15 people cleared, no standby for upgrade.

9-10ish. Seat 2B left the flight, reducing upgrade cleared to 14, increasing buy-up to 6

11ish. 2 added to upgrade standby list, 1 appears to be non-rev, and 6 seats still for buy-up.

11:45ish. 2 new people clear to upgrade list, buy-up reduces to 4, 2 people are still standing by for upgrade.

Steph3n May 11, 2009 9:57 am


Originally Posted by KNRG (Post 11729706)
Quick chronology:

7am-ish. Offered buy-up as non elite, 5 seats avail for purchase, 15 people clears, no standby for upgrade.

9-10ish. Seat 2B left the flight, reducing upgrade cleared to 14, increasing buy-up to 6

11ish. 2 added to upgrade standby list, 1 appears to be non-rev, and 6 seats still for buy-up.

11:45ish. 2 new people clear to upgrade list, buy-up reduces to 4, 2 people are still standing by for upgrade.

I don't think anything fishy here then, 1 non rev, and 1 person possibly full Y from another airline or walk up sale, none elite so they will get upgraded after everyone else.


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