2011 OnePass Program Changes
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:06 am
#211
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: IAH
Programs: UA,AF,BA
Posts: 77
Originally Posted by www.continental.com;
Presidential Platinum Elite spending will no longer be tracked at continental.com or appear on monthly OnePass statements.
Wonder why they are getting rid of it ??
Conceivably it is because they have no way in 2011 of tracking accrued UA revenue. Hm. Nope, that wouldn't make sense, because they still have to know when to issue the award.
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:11 am
#212
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC & Delhi
Programs: CO Pres. Plat, SPG
Posts: 546
Worth noting: Due to recent changes in banking regulations, we are no longer able to offer the fee-waived Presidential Plus credit card offer for U.S. residents. The corresponding 25K bonus for offshore members will also be discontinued in 2011. Also, unlike 2010, earnings in 2011 will additionally factor in United spend. In correlation with this change, online revenue tracking will no longer be offered.
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:13 am
#213
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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That's a pain. As it is, I can never work out how CO computes its revenue compared to the price I pay for the ticket. I found it very convenient to see the total on the website. It even encouraged me to fly more because I realized milestone was close.
Wonder why they are getting rid of it ??
Conceivably it is because they have no way in 2011 of tracking accrued UA revenue. Hm. Nope, that wouldn't make sense, because they still have to know when to issue the award.
Wonder why they are getting rid of it ??
Conceivably it is because they have no way in 2011 of tracking accrued UA revenue. Hm. Nope, that wouldn't make sense, because they still have to know when to issue the award.
I imagine that this is also in line with the tracking complications, and what info. CO/UA choose to make available to its customers on the website(s)!
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:20 am
#214
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I have a feeling it was more around UA's corporate contracts. I think UA has a lot more contracts than CO does, and UA did not want to jeopardize them by publishing a revenue target. Travel managers tend to hate that because it encourages people directly to spend more money, when their goal is to get people to spend less money.
In addition, the "invitation only" approach allows UA to target behaviors they specifically want and have variable targets by market (e.g., in DFW or ATL they may require a lesser spend than say SFO because they want to poach AA or DL business).
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:23 am
#215
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I have a feeling it was more around UA's corporate contracts. I think UA has a lot more contracts than CO does, and UA did not want to jeopardize them by publishing a revenue target. Travel managers tend to hate that because it encourages people directly to spend more money, when their goal is to get people to spend less money.
In addition, the "invitation only" approach allows UA to target behaviors they specifically want and have variable targets by market (e.g., in DFW or ATL they may require a lesser spend than say SFO because they want to poach AA or DL business).
In addition, the "invitation only" approach allows UA to target behaviors they specifically want and have variable targets by market (e.g., in DFW or ATL they may require a lesser spend than say SFO because they want to poach AA or DL business).
Nov 17, 2010 | 9:33 am
#216
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: East Coast
Programs: UA 1k & MillM
Posts: 563
Interesting.... Just got the email about the changes, and it said this:
"One change that will impact you directly is that after next year, the Presidential Platinum Elite program will be replaced by United Global Services. Rest assured, you will receive all the benefits and services associated with Presidential Platinum through Jan. 31, 2012."
I don't think I'm a Pres Plat Elite.... Just a lowly Gold. Glitch in the email system....
"One change that will impact you directly is that after next year, the Presidential Platinum Elite program will be replaced by United Global Services. Rest assured, you will receive all the benefits and services associated with Presidential Platinum through Jan. 31, 2012."
I don't think I'm a Pres Plat Elite.... Just a lowly Gold. Glitch in the email system....
Last edited by reinballe; Nov 17, 2010 at 9:42 am
Nov 17, 2010 | 10:01 am
#217
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Central Florida
Programs: Bonvoy-Gold, HH-Gold, UA-Gold, *A-Gold, Hyatt-Discoverist
Posts: 2,046
Nov 17, 2010 | 10:10 am
#218
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Jersey Shore
Programs: UA 1MM, UA 1K, SPG Plat, Yfirst gold, Hyatt Plat, Avis Plat.
Posts: 309
My 2 cents worth. I'm OK with all of the changes except one. The restricted SWUs are next to worthless for me. I made the 100,000 mile mark this year and was very excited to do so. The 4 SWU were a great incentive. What a downer to learn that the SWU are only going to be good on the more expensive tickets. The SWUs earned in 2010 are still good on any fare though, right? Also I feel for the UA folks that are worried about losing E+, I still have my fingers crossed that will be adopted by the new United.
Last edited by infomark; Nov 17, 2010 at 10:12 am Reason: Content
Nov 17, 2010 | 10:29 am
#219
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAS, SAT, IAH
Programs: Flying Nut
Posts: 6,368
I cannot imagine that there will be a different upgrade bucket for the CR1s from the SWUs and mileage upgrades. Just doesn't make sense.
On the plus side, it is worth noting that the two programs even managed to align their stock photography for the announcement of the alignment of the programs. This woman is looking longingly out the window for her elite benefits on both the UA and CO websites:
On the plus side, it is worth noting that the two programs even managed to align their stock photography for the announcement of the alignment of the programs. This woman is looking longingly out the window for her elite benefits on both the UA and CO websites:
Nov 17, 2010 | 11:29 am
#220
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,894
Do we have any idea about combining UA's life-time miles and CO's as well as the RDMs in the two account? How would CO go about doing this? I have few in CO and UA account and I am really hoping that CO and UA accounts can be combined in 2011 or 2012 so I can pool the mileage in the two accounts!
Nov 17, 2010 | 11:37 am
#221
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
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Well, it is up to you... This is probably the only time you will be able to earn unrestricted CO SWUs [2010 SWUs will be good on any fare], so I would probably go for 100K on CO for this year.
Nov 17, 2010 | 11:39 am
#222
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
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Do we have any idea about combining UA's life-time miles and CO's as well as the RDMs in the two account? How would CO go about doing this? I have few in CO and UA account and I am really hoping that CO and UA accounts can be combined in 2011 or 2012 so I can pool the mileage in the two accounts!
If they chose the BIS option, I hope they will still count lifetime EQMs we have accrued in the past towards MM.
Nov 17, 2010 | 11:51 am
#223
Join Date: May 2009
Location: IND || CMI
Programs: AA EXP 1M, Marriott LT Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Hilton Gold, Hertz President Circle
Posts: 631
Thanks for the input .... even though the big domestic pump that I was used to may not be happening (IND/IAH/SJC/IAH/IND) .... I will just use the garden hose approach of IND-ABE-IND ..... and figure out how to make it the last hunk ...
Though the 120 EQP for top status is a serious PiTA given the AA EXP 100 EQS equivalent .... 25 weeks of flying on AA vs. 30 weeks on CO .... if there was only 55 weeks in a year ...
Though the 120 EQP for top status is a serious PiTA given the AA EXP 100 EQS equivalent .... 25 weeks of flying on AA vs. 30 weeks on CO .... if there was only 55 weeks in a year ...
AFAIK, UA GS will be behind CO PPlats and Plats, but ahead of UA 1Ks and CO Golds for EUA until both programs are merged.
Well, it is up to you... This is probably the only time you will be able to earn unrestricted CO SWUs [2010 SWUs will be good on any fare], so I would probably go for 100K on CO for this year.
Well, it is up to you... This is probably the only time you will be able to earn unrestricted CO SWUs [2010 SWUs will be good on any fare], so I would probably go for 100K on CO for this year.
Nov 17, 2010 | 12:04 pm
#224
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: EAU
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Scratch that, I apparently read right over the part where they didn't start awarding them until 75k.
Nov 17, 2010 | 12:17 pm
#225
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SFO
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Posts: 1,565
My 2 cents worth. I'm OK with all of the changes except one. The restricted SWUs are next to worthless for me. I made the 100,000 mile mark this year and was very excited to do so. The 4 SWU were a great incentive. What a downer to learn that the SWU are only going to be good on the more expensive tickets. The SWUs earned in 2010 are still good on any fare though, right? Also I feel for the UA folks that are worried about losing E+, I still have my fingers crossed that will be adopted by the new United.
Last edited by mike_plat; Nov 17, 2010 at 12:22 pm