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Nov 17, 2010 | 12:19 pm

#226

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Originally Posted by raehl311

The real problem is most likely that the systems have no mechanism for tracking elite level on other airlines, just *G or *S. So when on the other airline, their system has no idea whether you're plat or gold or 1K or 1P, it just knows that you're *G and have a CO or UA FF number.

Well, some systems maybe... but clearly not all. I am looking at my CO-issued BPs from that trip on CO metal that I mentioned right now and they correctly identify me as a "UA 1K / STAR GOLD" and my wife as a "PREM EXC / STAR GOLD".

Nov 17, 2010 | 12:38 pm

#227

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Originally Posted by UA-NYC

After yesterday's devaluation, and the ominous lack of talk around E+,

I don't think that there is too much that can be read into the lack of discussion about E+ in yesterday's announcement. It might simply mean that no decision has been made.

I suppose though that 'no news is good news'? I guess if it was a clear cut money loosing dog, then it would on its way out and fast.

I still think that it will be axed. The conservative thinking that CO is known for will see that the none of the US competition has E+ and cut it, thinking 'well if they don't like it, there is no place to go'. Those of you who see the lack of E+ as more F seats.... All I can say is: don't count your chickens until they hatch.

Nov 17, 2010 | 2:45 pm

#228

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Does this mean as a Continental Gold member, the complimentary upgrades will go away?????

Nov 17, 2010 | 3:03 pm

#229

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spineangel

Does this mean as a Continental Gold member, the complimentary upgrades will go away?????

No. EUAs/UDUs are not going anywhere.

As for how often they clear, well, that's a whole different story.

Nov 17, 2010 | 3:19 pm

#230

Harry IAH

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notquiteaff

This page describes it:

http://www.united.com/page/article/1,,53017,00.html

Note that the earning rules on that page are the now obsoleted UA rules that were a lot more generous.

... Oh, so a regional upgrade is like a CO EasyPass - you have to spend this hard-earned benefit to get something that used to come automatically ...

Nov 17, 2010 | 3:26 pm

#231

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Originally Posted by Harry IAH

... Oh, so a regional upgrade is like a CO EasyPass - you have to spend this hard-earned benefit to get something that used to come automatically ...

The CR1s are a way to confirm an upgrade in advance, just like using miles. If you don't want to use them you can wait for UDU/EUA to run. Just like SWUs replace miles+copay.

Nov 17, 2010 | 3:43 pm

#232

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cova

The way I read it, the 100K priority doesn't start until Jan 1, 2012. So during 2011, Plat is still second tier for EUA under PPlat/GS.

...on CO metal (though it's actually PPlat, Plat, GS, 1K). On UA we're 5th tier (after GS, 1K, 1P, PPlat)

edit: Given another post, that might even be 6th tier if we're just lumped in alphabetically with the Golds...

Last edited by paranoiatx; Nov 17, 2010 at 3:51 pm Reason: correction

Nov 17, 2010 | 4:18 pm

#233

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I got the PresPlat version of the email the other day. Today I got a correction:

You received the incorrect version of the Important Elite program updates e–mail notification. The correct version follows. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I guess it's not uncommon for CO marketing to take two tries to get it right. heh

Nov 17, 2010 | 4:31 pm

#234

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Originally Posted by channa

I guess it's not uncommon for CO marketing to take two tries to get it right. heh

Guess it is a good thing that they have similarly incompetent peers with their merger partners.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ing-email.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ur-status.html

Last edited by sbm12; Nov 17, 2010 at 6:11 pm

Nov 17, 2010 | 4:45 pm

#235

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry IAH

... Oh, so a regional upgrade is like a CO EasyPass - you have to spend this hard-earned benefit to get something that used to come automatically ...

The Easypass is for the NJ Turnpike not CO Upgrades

Nov 17, 2010 | 4:47 pm

#236

marklyon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by channa

I got the opposite. I didn't get the Pres. Plat., and they sent me the correct one. Looks like the used the wrong list both ways.

Even with the updated email, I am unclear if this year's SWUs will work for the "disallowed bucket" EWR->PEK tickets I wanted to book today (for travel next May).

Nov 17, 2010 | 4:55 pm

#237

dsweet

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Good month good bad

In this month I passed the million mile threshold (now of great future uncertainty), 100,000 eqms (unusable SWUs) and $30K spend (the only worthwhile benefit of which, the free card, willl now be taken away at a date uncertain).

Time to stop flying, I guess.

Nov 17, 2010 | 5:48 pm

#238

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Originally Posted by infomark

The restricted SWUs are next to worthless for me. I made the 100,000 mile mark this year and was very excited to do so. The 4 SWU were a great incentive. What a downer to learn that the SWU are only going to be good on the more expensive tickets.

Well, "next to" worthless is pretty vague (how close?), but it seems like a bit of hyperbole in your post. They are clearly still valuable. They're probably worth more than 20-40k miles each (one-way upgrade to BusinessFirst), since the fare differential to buy up to an eligible fare (max $200-300 one-way from some reports here IIRC) looks to be much less than the co-pay that would be required on the lowest fare ($500 one-way) for a mileage upgrade. Of course we don't know what the new fare structure will be, so this could change, but as of now this should be accurate.

So I don't know how you could possibly claim that these are anywhere close to worthless and have anyone take you seriously.

Nov 17, 2010 | 5:49 pm

#239

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To clarify, while the SWUs are fare class restricted on BF flights, does this imply they can be used on any fare for any non-bf flights (for instance on transcons where EUAs almost never happen)?

Nov 17, 2010 | 5:53 pm

#240

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Quote:

Originally Posted by downhillcrasher

To clarify, while the SWUs are fare class restricted on BF flights, does this imply they can be used on any fare for any non-bf flights (for instance on transcons where EUAs almost never happen)?

Presumably, as that's how they work on UA. They're essentially usable as CR1s if you wish.