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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 4:04 pm
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Watertown Picnic Bench Club

We should figure out a way for everyone to leave their mark at the picnic bench outside the ART airport. Perhaps a small clipboard and pen inside a Tupperware container. Everyone can leave a message...
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by rbAA
Can you sleep on the picnic table?
Well, it depends. Are you talking about in the summer or the winter...?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 6:12 pm
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Here are my trips to ART:

6/10 Arrive ART 3:25 p.m. US 4353
6/10 Leave ART 5:50 p.m. US 4354

6/17 Arrive ART 3:25 p.m. US 4353
6/17 Leave ART 5:50 p.m. US 4354

9/12 Arrive ART 3:25 p.m. US 4353
9/12 Leave ART 5:50 p.m. US 4354

10/10 Arrive ART 3:25 p.m. US 4353
10/10 Leave ART 5:50 p.m. US 4354
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 6:24 pm
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To avoid excessive threads on ART, I'll merge this [Watertown Picnic Bench Club thread] into the existing five-page thread on ART. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
1) The seats on the propeller jet are fairly comfortable, as long as you are in row 4 or forward.
What's the best seat on this plane? How are the exit rows?

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
What's the best seat on this plane? How are the exit rows?

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Legroom is supposedly the same even in the exit rows. Row 1 does not have a window on either side. Seat 1A has a lot of legroom. 1F.. you can stick your feet forward around the closet into the entryway. I was in 1A on the flight up to Watertown and it was rather dark up there. Vibration was intense in the front, though SeeYa reported it wasn't as bad back in the mid-cabin.

Legroom isn't really that bad and the I found the seat comfortable enough. No worse than any RJ. It seems the aisle armrests do raise up at least in most rows.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 8:55 pm
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Well since so many of us are going to visit ART over the next few months. Rather than use the FAT MAN taxi why don't we all chip in and buy a car and leave it at the curb since JAX PAX says it's a pretty safe place. Everyone can borrow and return the car to the curb in front of the airport. Just leave the keys under the seat or with Barney Fife. I'll bet we can buy a beater for $250.....
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by JAXPax
Found this on an internet aviation photos site:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/779766/L/

It's a good shot of the interior of a US Airways Express/Air Midwest B1900D, same as those used on this route.
That's the straw that broke the camels back. Just cancelled my 2 tix.





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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 11:42 pm
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I still have nightmares flying through stormy weather to godforsaken places in PA and NY state. Once I was really close to losing my lunch on an Elmira to PHL flight. The plane would jerk to and fro in a random pattern.

I used to like sitting on the rear bench in the middle but sometimes the co-pilot would not let me set there due to weight and balance.

It's a bit dangerous too.... consider the nasty accident a year or two ago.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
What's the best seat on this plane? How are the exit rows?

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Row 4 seemed comfy. It is an exit row. Row 6 is also an exit row, but I found it less comfortable than row 4. And as JAXPax reported, seat 1A has lots of leg room, being right by the door.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
Row 4 seemed comfy. It is an exit row. Row 6 is also an exit row, but I found it less comfortable than row 4. And as JAXPax reported, seat 1A has lots of leg room, being right by the door.
Seatguru has Row 4 as a yellow "Be Aware" seat due to the limited recline. Did you find that that was the case? Any extra leg room?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 9:32 am
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I haven't flown on one of these things in years. I used to fly them when US had its "Florida Shuttle." The TPA-PFN/VPS flights were always scenic (as long as the weather was good). The downside was the size of the cabin: I am 6'5" and I always felt like I was spelunking when I literally crawled to my seat.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by gnaget
It's a bit dangerous too.... consider the nasty accident a year or two ago.
Also remember US Ex one that went down on a ferry flight about a year ago...
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by shell nyc
Seatguru has Row 4 as a yellow "Be Aware" seat due to the limited recline. Did you find that that was the case? Any extra leg room?
a) How often do you recline when on an 1 hr 10 minute flight?
b) Reclining in general in such tight quarters would seem to me like picking a fight with the person behind you.
b) The seats seem to already have a slight recline built in, similar to the bucket seats on a sporty car.

As stated before, both Row 4 and 6 are listed as exit rows. IMO, Row 4 seemed to have more room though.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
a) How often do you recline when on an 1 hr 10 minute flight?
b) Reclining in general in such tight quarters would seem to me like picking a fight with the person behind you.
b) The seats seem to already have a slight recline built in, similar to the bucket seats on a sporty car.
a) reclining in any economy seat can seem like picking a fight with the person behind you. But on these flights, normally there wouldn't BE anybody behind you! Prior to this, in all my flights to LEB it was rare to see more than 4-6 people board. Once I had twelve and it really freaked me out--I'm assuming it's similar on ART though I suppose there might be slightly better traffic since the route goes up to Ogdensburg/Massena as well

b) yeah, these seats are actually pretty darn comfortable, considering. The only thing I don't like about this plane is the noise/vibration, but otherwise it's more comfortable than a CRJ, in my book (it has big windows, in the right place!). Definitely beats a Jetstream.
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