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IkeEsq May 13, 2019 9:23 am


Originally Posted by Robl (Post 31096304)
Chat for match today:
Me: For accounted ending in xxxx I signed up for an offer of 60,000 miles after a $3000 spend. I see now you have a 65,0000 offer. Could I have 5000 miles added to my offer as a courtesy?


Tania (CSR): Robert, I have successfully raised request to match offer for 65000 miles for you. Our accounts specialists will work on this and you will be notified about the approval in 3-5 days.

Will report back result. I think 5-7 minutes of time is worth the 5k points.

Both my wife and I got matched on 5/4, 60K to 65K.

bigshooter May 13, 2019 9:52 am

Happy to report that this is my third card I've been approved for without needing to send w-2 in. I dropped my income by 25% again and it seems to be the key, just needed to call in and have them send me a text for verification.

Now I just need some mailers to start showing up... that was my last one :(

PresskittJon May 13, 2019 9:58 am


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 31096545)
Happy to report that this is my third card I've been approved for without needing to send w-2 in. I dropped my income by 25% again and it seems to be the key, just needed to call in and have them send me a text for verification.

Now I just need some mailers to start showing up... that was my last one :(

I had to send in W-2 multiple times and never changed my income. The dropping income routine is classic confirmation bias. To each their own but no need to report something other than your full income.

bigshooter May 13, 2019 10:43 am


Originally Posted by PresskittJon (Post 31096570)
I had to send in W-2 multiple times and never changed my income. The dropping income routine is classic confirmation bias. To each their own but no need to report something other than your full income.

I did it per recommendation of the forum and haven't had an issue ever since. It could very well be I didn't eat anything after midnight on each of these apps or the fact that I am wearing ramen socks today (socks with pictures of ramen bowls, not made of ramen), but it's made things easier for my apps.

If I ever get a mailer again I'll crank the income back up and see what happens.

wiivile May 13, 2019 1:42 pm

i don't understand the w2/paystub thing. my w2/paystub don't include all of my income claimed on the application. w2 doesn't include pre-tax deductions from income like 401k deferrals; paystub doesn't include things like bonuses, commissions, overtime, etc. and perhaps i have another source of income like a side job. not sure how citi can use these as confirmation of income... my w2/paystub are always going to be a good deal lower than any income i claim on a credit application.

Robl May 13, 2019 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 31096745)
I did it per recommendation of the forum and haven't had an issue ever since. It could very well be I didn't eat anything after midnight on each of these apps or the fact that I am wearing ramen socks today (socks with pictures of ramen bowls, not made of ramen), but it's made things easier for my apps.

If I ever get a mailer again I'll crank the income back up and see what happens.

Ok I’m going to add the ramen socks requirement to the Wiki.

mia May 13, 2019 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by wiivile (Post 31097427)
....my w2/paystub don't include all of my income ....

This is why many issuers require an IRS form 4506-T, but as a practical matter Citi may not be concerned about a discrepancy provided the verified income is sufficient.

bobby21 May 13, 2019 2:27 pm

What is the best way to close the card these days? The chat agents refuse to do it and ask me to call the 800 number. Any way to avoid calling? I cannot get SM to work either.

RobertHanson May 13, 2019 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by bobby21 (Post 31097579)
What is the best way to close the card these days? The chat agents refuse to do it and ask me to call the 800 number. Any way to avoid calling? I cannot get SM to work either.

There is a very easy method, which strangely doesn't work for everyone, but it has always worked for DW and myself. Call the number on the back of the card, tell the computer "close account". It will ask "do you want to close this account?" Say "YES" and it's closed. Takes about 20 seconds total, and has always worked for DW and myself. No idea why some folks say it doesn't work for them, but it's so fast and easy it's worth a try to see if it works for you.

bigshooter May 13, 2019 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by RobertHanson (Post 31097651)
There is a very easy method, which strangely doesn't work for everyone, but it has always worked for DW and myself. Call the number on the back of the card, tell the computer "close account". It will ask "do you want to close this account?" Say "YES" and it's closed. Takes about 20 seconds total, and has always worked for DW and myself. No idea why some folks say it doesn't work for them, but it's so fast and easy it's worth a try to see if it works for you.

I always get transferred to a human robot instead of talking to the robot robot. I'll try wearing my ramen socks next time...

Also, I've closed the window and asked a second chat person when they tell me to call in and I've also just told them I don't want to be bothered by calling in and waiting on hold. They change their tune when you insist sometimes... probably because it will cause a poor rating when you end the chat.

muji May 13, 2019 5:03 pm


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 31098049)
I always get transferred to a human...instead of talking to the robot...

For me it has been 50/50. Sometimes when I say "close account", the robot voice asks me "Do you want to close your account?".

Other times, it says "We will transfer you to an agent who will help you." But even if you do have to speak with an agent, just keep saying (in reply to whatever they might ask you) "I no longer need this account; please close it."

Namaste1 May 13, 2019 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by Namaste1 (Post 31059548)
Just realized my offer was 50000+15000 miles and I was asking for 15000 match :p Just asked for 5000 miles match and looks like it's going to be approved. I guess I could have asked for 10000 match but wanted to stay under the radar and not get a third denial.

Today I received a snail mail letter that approved 5000 miles match for my business card.

nomiiiii May 14, 2019 12:39 am

For an originally applied 60k mailer offer, is the match request to 75k now pretty much dead now? I can only ask for upto 5000 now for 65k?

Both me and SO got denied on 75k matching after chat person had submitted the request.

wiivile May 14, 2019 7:17 am


Originally Posted by jimbaum (Post 31094638)
My wife applied on 3/2 and 4/14 (approved for both). Decided to apply again today (5/12). This does not violate the 2 cards in 60-day rule. The app process cleared the application screen and she received an app ID.
Received a phone call in about an hour from Citi, after responding to a text message if they can contact us.
The wife was told that she's approved but would not receive any bonus since she opened a card within a month ago. She told them to cancel the app.

Too bad I wasn't close by as I would've suggested that she let them process the app and get the card open; we would see what really happens (anecdotal evidence of CSR not knowing what they are talking about). Although I would have thought she would still have received the bonus. But that window had already closed so no data point to confirm.

Hopefully, this is just a one-off mad Citi rep for having to work on Mother's Day :P

Jim

Well, I'm not sure how it works with Citi, but that application from 4/14 would still be live in the credit analysts' systems because the hard pull they conducted on 4/14 is supposedly valid for 30 days. So they may be able to see both applications? I would personally avoid applying twice in 30 days if possible...

venkallu May 14, 2019 7:48 am


Originally Posted by nomiiiii (Post 31099000)
For an originally applied 60k mailer offer, is the match request to 75k now pretty much dead now? I can only ask for upto 5000 now for 65k?

Both me and SO got denied on 75k matching after chat person had submitted the request.

yep, that is true. The only match I am getting now is the 65k (5k match from 60k).


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