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jonessher Jun 19, 2025 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer (Post 37156643)
I certainly hope they don't go all 77W since 350s are nicer.

But I think the question may be answered by looking back at the history of the route post-Covid. There were moves toward all-77W and rumors about LGW, but they ultimately didn't pan out. It's been busy when I've taken it but I've heard it could lag a bit outside school holiday times and the current configuration is probably optimized to avoid any empty seats that might come about with an expansion.

Yes, its better for CX to increase frequencies in EU destinations if they work out, at least to daily. It also has to be ready to grab some HX's AU slots if they are released.

CX860 Jun 19, 2025 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer (Post 37156662)

That was quick but unsurprising.

CX860 Jun 19, 2025 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by jonessher (Post 37156226)
some 777ws would be great.

🤫 Someone is going to come and have a moan about 77Ws being too loud and dry for their delicate constitution...

buschoi Jun 19, 2025 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 37141358)
I think they have cut 330s to Japan a lot. I've had two flights dropped from 330 to 320 so far this summer. Not exactly thrilled given the only reason I pick them is for the 330 J. The August days I took a look at last night didn't even have any 330 to NRT and some days only one flight with 320 J, rest were Y monoclass 320s or 321s. Basically turning into HB. A bit dire...

They do. I was shopping for a last-minute RT to Japan for next week. Most HX flights I found were on the 320. It was an easy decision to go back to CX and book its flights. The OWE perks don’t hurt either.

VE105 Jun 19, 2025 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by pochi (Post 37155287)
Yup. That would be 77 slots for CX and 14 slots for HX.

From NW25,
CX service to Australia would be (28+21+14+14=77):
4 Daily SYD
3 Daily MEL
2 Daily BNE
2 Daily PER

HX service to Australia would be (7+7=14):
1 Daily SYD
1 Daily MEL

Still, HX is downsizing its 333 fleet, and, as the news said, HX's SYD service will be reduced to 4 weekly.
We would see after NW25, if the unused slot will be moved to CX or even given to CX for additional service/ 1 Daily to WSI (FYI: WSI is inside the cap).

From the fleet now, I am guessing PER might go down to A330 for CX's Australia service to free up more A350.
I am still waiting for year-round service to CNS and ADL.

(Or maybe if CX receives a new 32Q and has a new layout, a triangular route, HKG-CNS-DRW-HKG, in my wildest dream)

so the remaining 2 slots in NW25 go to MEL. Finally back to 3 daily.

jonessher Jun 24, 2025 3:30 am

UO adding 5th BKK flight from 29 June

UO710 HKG 2205 - 0005 BKK 321
UO711 BKK 0055 - 0455 HKG 321

kamchatsky Jun 25, 2025 12:01 am


Originally Posted by pochi (Post 37155287)
We would see after NW25, if the unused slot will be moved to CX or even given to CX for additional service/ 1 Daily to WSI (FYI: WSI is inside the cap).

Not sure if CX will do 1 daily to WSI TBH. Most HK diaspora lives closer to SYD, and far away from WSI. it would be good if they do WSI though, as they can do midnight SYD departures, and arrive at HKG at 6am, rather than leaving SYD at 10pm arriving at HKG at 4am during daylight saving hours.

I was surprised that WSI was counted in the cap but that is more of issue with Aust government. I would have thought there should be incentives for airlines to start using WSI instead of SYD.

percysmith Jun 25, 2025 3:03 am


Originally Posted by kamchatsky (Post 37167315)
Not sure if CX will do 1 daily to WSI TBH. Most HK diaspora lives closer to SYD, and far away from WSI. it would be good if they do WSI though, as they can do midnight SYD departures, and arrive at HKG at 6am, rather than leaving SYD at 10pm arriving at HKG at 4am during daylight saving hours.

I was surprised that WSI was counted in the cap but that is more of issue with Aust government. I would have thought there should be incentives for airlines to start using WSI instead of SYD.

A bit. It'll be a wash for me.

It depends what I want to do on the trip - if visit family, WSI or SYD indifferent. If connect, SYD.
Akin to NRT/HND.

kamchatsky Jun 25, 2025 3:24 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 37167494)
A bit. It'll be a wash for me.

It depends what I want to do on the trip - if visit family, WSI or SYD indifferent. If connect, SYD.
Akin to NRT/HND.

If connecting international <-> domestic, it is going to be much easier to connect via WSI, assuming the connecting time is similar to SYD. Domestic and international at WSI will be in the same Terminal. Transfer at SYD would involve a bus or train between terminals.

Where I live, I think I will get to both SYD and WSI at similar time by car via motorways, and probably cheaper to WSI due to lower tolls. But for a lot of HKers living in the East, Lower/Upper North Shore, Inner West, the South area, SYD is closer. Any suburbs west of Inner West, WSI comes into play.

The only thing against WSI compare to SYD is the lack of direct trains to CBD. The airport metro will open a few months after WSI opening, but then would require a change of train to go to CBD.

percysmith Jun 25, 2025 3:54 am

Depends when the connecting flights (QF and JQ for me) move over.

So far, I don't experience SYD as being capacity constrained in the sense LHR or HND is? This is more looking towards the future.

derek2010 Jun 25, 2025 7:52 am


Originally Posted by kamchatsky (Post 37167315)
Not sure if CX will do 1 daily to WSI TBH. Most HK diaspora lives closer to SYD, and far away from WSI. it would be good if they do WSI though, as they can do midnight SYD departures, and arrive at HKG at 6am, rather than leaving SYD at 10pm arriving at HKG at 4am during daylight saving hours.

I was surprised that WSI was counted in the cap but that is more of issue with Aust government. I would have thought there should be incentives for airlines to start using WSI instead of SYD.

Besides WSI, Cathay can also consider launching
1. CBR using A350-900 or A330-300 (with 28J)
2. OOL using A330-300 (with 28J)
3. HBA using A330-300 (with 28J)

derek2010 Jun 25, 2025 8:01 am

Besides, Cathay can try launching:
1. EDI with A350-900
2. DUB with A350-900
3. GVA with A350-900
4. ZAG with A350-900
5. JED
6. HET
7. PKX
8. LXA

jonessher Jun 25, 2025 8:06 am


Originally Posted by derek2010 (Post 37167876)
Besides WSI, Cathay can also consider launching
1. CBR using A350-900 or A330-300 (with 28J)
2. OOL using A330-300 (with 28J)
3. HBA using A330-300 (with 28J)

CX has better use of the 28J A330 aircrafts for short haul operations though and to swap the A350s and 777Ws for long haul operations.

HarbourGent Jun 25, 2025 9:21 am


Originally Posted by derek2010 (Post 37167884)
Besides, Cathay can try launching:
1. EDI with A350-900
2. DUB with A350-900
3. GVA with A350-900
4. ZAG with A350-900
5. JED
6. HET
7. PKX
8. LXA

GLA not EDI would be more suitable given Swire (and Hong Kong)'s historically strong Ayrshire links, but I would welcome either and have long thought there would be enough demand for 2 or 3 weekly flights. Strikes me as low priority but would be a very welcome development.

percysmith Jun 25, 2025 11:00 am


Originally Posted by derek2010 (Post 37167884)
Besides, Cathay can try launching:
1. EDI with A350-900
2. DUB with A350-900
3. GVA with A350-900
4. ZAG with A350-900
5. JED
6. HET
7. PKX
8. LXA



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