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NZflyer777 Jun 3, 2025 1:42 am


Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 37123921)
HX is expanding? Buhahhahaha. See, someone is saying that, the 4-5 fifth-hand A330 is more attractive than the 40-50 brand-new 777-9 and A330-900 that CX will receive soon.

soon???
Its 2025.
Cx ain't getting no planes till 2028.
And are retiring 10 widebodies by then

VE105 Jun 3, 2025 2:05 am


Originally Posted by MeltingAlf (Post 37123908)
Just out from SCMP though - HX is going to start Urumqi and Melbourne. Apparently elsewhere they were saying they have 90% load factor on HKG-YVR.

I actually hope HX does well. The more pressures on CX, the better for us as passengers, even if we choose to fly CX exclusively.

at the expense of regional flights cancellation......

VE105 Jun 3, 2025 2:06 am


Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 37123921)
HX is expanding? Buhahhahaha. See, someone is saying that, the 4-5 fifth-hand A330 is more attractive than the 40-50 brand-new 777-9 and A330-900 that CX will receive soon.

HX614 delayed 5 hours and HX640 delayed 3 hours today due to lack of aircraft. Indeed fleet well-planned.

P.S. let's just ignore the troll. He probably climax everytime a poster correct his nonsense.

CXj3j24 Jun 3, 2025 6:48 am


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 37123984)
HX614 delayed 5 hours and HX640 delayed 3 hours today due to lack of aircraft. Indeed fleet well-planned.

P.S. let's just ignore the troll. He probably climax everytime a poster correct his nonsense.

HX behaves just like MH. Pax have to assume the risks of significant delays / cancellations when they get on some less prioritised routes.

CXj3j24 Jun 3, 2025 6:56 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 37121898)
Wouldn't they move India over to any regional 1-2-1 first, before Australia?

I guess CX will put more PEY seats if 339 is to deploy heavily on AUS or any other mid haul routes.

jonessher Jun 3, 2025 9:39 am


Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37124394)
HX behaves just like MH. Pax have to assume the risks of significant delays / cancellations when they get on some less prioritised routes.

Indeed. Maybe that's why HX is not starting a UK route (UK261).

eclipseer Jun 3, 2025 11:04 am

I've only flown with HX once and it was just fine. What are the factors that has made them so disorganized and unreliable?

CX860 Jun 3, 2025 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 37123984)
HX614 delayed 5 hours and HX640 delayed 3 hours today due to lack of aircraft. Indeed fleet well-planned.

Did they lose a bunch of planes since last summer? I flew them some last summer and it was all fine. Some minor delays but nothing worse than CX.

This summer, they have already messed around with a bunch of my flights. Mostly, shuffling plane types but with downgrades from 330 to 320s. I was meant to fly them this weekend for the first time this summer but had to cancel last minute for work so havn't experienced their punctuality (or lack thereof) yet.

pochi Jun 3, 2025 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 37125093)
Did they lose a bunch of planes since last summer? I flew them some last summer and it was all fine. Some minor delays but nothing worse than CX.

This summer, they have already messed around with a bunch of my flights. Mostly, shuffling plane types but with downgrades from 330 to 320s. I was meant to fly them this weekend for the first time this summer but had to cancel last minute for work so havn't experienced their punctuality (or lack thereof) yet.

They did. All 330-200 will store/retire/return to the lessor.
My advice is DO NOT take any HX long haul. They will only have 5 active long haul aircraft but 3 long-haul destinations (YVR, SYD, and if they're true, MEL). Any grounded aircraft will result significant delay (this time, B-LNL is grounded)

Reply1984 Jun 3, 2025 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 37125093)
Did they lose a bunch of planes since last summer? I flew them some last summer and it was all fine. Some minor delays but nothing worse than CX.

This summer, they have already messed around with a bunch of my flights. Mostly, shuffling plane types but with downgrades from 330 to 320s. I was meant to fly them this weekend for the first time this summer but had to cancel last minute for work so havn't experienced their punctuality (or lack thereof) yet.

HX is clearly downsizing. Since this year 2 A333 left the fleet and one A333 is set to leave. There are also some rumors that only 5 A333 will stay in the HX fleet for long-haul operations. At the same time the introduction of B787 is indefinitely delayed.

CX860 Jun 3, 2025 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by pochi (Post 37125702)
They did. All 330-200 will store/retire/return to the lessor.


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 37125723)
HX is clearly downsizing. Since this year 2 A333 left the fleet and one A333 is set to leave. There are also some rumors that only 5 A333 will stay in the HX fleet for long-haul operations. At the same time the introduction of B787 is indefinitely delayed.

That makes sense. Flying around empty business classes isn't very sensible. It was good while it lasted haha.

Fingers crossed for my flights...

I was speaking to cabin crew who happened to be from Osaka recently and mentioned the sliders on the Osaka red eye and they said they have gotten a lot of complaints about it. TBD whether they actually do something about it.

jonessher Jun 3, 2025 9:54 pm

I believe there will be more A330s will come from its parents and partner airlines. Returning leased aircraft may just allow HX to take more aircrafts from its parents.

pochi Jun 3, 2025 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 37125860)
That makes sense. Flying around empty business classes isn't very sensible. It was good while it lasted haha.

Fingers crossed for my flights...

I was speaking to cabin crew who happened to be from Osaka recently and mentioned the sliders on the Osaka red eye and they said they have gotten a lot of complaints about it. TBD whether they actually do something about it.

You mean CX566?
I was on it a few weeks ago and it is terrible

Reply1984 Jun 3, 2025 11:58 pm


Originally Posted by jonessher (Post 37125879)
I believe there will be more A330s will come from its parents and partner airlines. Returning leased aircraft may just allow HX to take more aircrafts from its parents.

No. They are returning the A333 leased from the HNA Group. Apprently the HNA Group is adjusting their strategies on HX.

CX860 Jun 4, 2025 12:05 am


Originally Posted by pochi (Post 37125977)
You mean CX566?
I was on it a few weeks ago and it is terrible

Yes. I told them I was on it a bit last summer when it was a 350 but its ridiculous to be paying what CX is asking, which is the same thing as last summer, for what is now a last generation slider. They said they understood and CX has gotten a lot of complaints about it. I said I'll wait for them to refurb the 330s. They said they agreed that schedule is going to slip though and blamed it on the 779 delays but I think CX is really stretching the "blame Boeing" argument at this point...


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