Indeed, but what does this have to do with the thread about CX Further route resumptions?

The initial comment had stated that QR has a number of codeshare partners, which I felt like needed to be elaborated on.

Moving back on topic, I would like for Doha to be added back to the network, aided by an expansion of QR codeshares to feed HKG-DOH.

Admittedly, the chances of this route being resumed are slim, as CX have previously tried this and failed.

Indeed. Doha is a A330 type of route for CX, but placing a A330 product to this route may not work with Qatar present. So, CX may as well leave everything to Qatar.

QR flies the Ex-CX 77W on HKG, at least when I flew it, so IMO, the 333 long haul J is on par with what QR is flying.

Yes indeed. I’ve recently flown the ex-CX birds now with QR and the interiors are not at all being well loved.. On balance I would say better off on a CX 330.

Can't be more accurate. The tray table of my neighbour's seat fell off when he tried to use it, and some of the seatbacks couldn't be lifted upright. I also checked out Economy Comfort (i.e. the old PEY) and the TV in the bulkhead row refused to stand up on its own (the whole stand was broken). I honestly think regular economy in those jets are much better than Economy Comfort... at least the IFE isn't as laggy as running windows 11 on a 1990-built computer (the PEY tv gave those vibes).

the issue is it may not be very competitive against QR when codeshare pricing is usually not as good.

Given QR is clearly not intending to keep them around for the long haul based on the minimal investment they put in and the lack of upkeep, I have wondered whether CX can get them back in the near future to ease their aircraft shortage. Don't know QR's lease terms though.

I think QR already has added it as permanent fleet. if they do retrofit it, there would be shortage in capacity and it seems like QR really needs as much capacity as possible.

right now the whole world is short on planes, and QR is adding frequencies to anywhere when given the chance, so it needs more and more aircraft, unlikely to go back to CX unfournately.

that's why I think CX should maybe take delivery of the A339's sooner, as the queue for it is still not very long, otherwise before 2028 there would be little to no chance for expansion anymore.

compared to what HKG used to get (359, Q Suite 77W), those Qathay jets really doesn't look good on QR, maybe except that they can sell F seats, and for those luck OWS/E who are able to select PY seats when traveling in Y

if CX is interested in DOH, QR could outsource those ex-CX jets to CX and appoint CX staff to operate on behalf of QR ? (somewhat opposite to what QR will be doing with VA

CX and QR launched an extensive codeshare agreement with QR in March 2014 and CX started a daily service to DOH (with another daily on QR).
At the time QR was a much smaller airline.
On October 2015 CX announced that it will discontinue its DOH service in February 2016 citing commercial reasons. It also removed its codeshares on QR from DOH.
QR started two daily flights to HKG replacing the former CX flight.
In 2017 QR bought a 9.6% ownership in CX and codeshares were added. Cooperation has been a rocky road.

There is only a small market PtP DOH-HKG and no way CX can successfully compete for that.
QR has expanded in the past decade and offers so many flights to Australia/America that CX is not needed for QR as codeshare on those routes. CX might be helpful for Qatari to fly to some Chinese cities, but a CX DOH-HKG flight is not needed for that primary purpose. There is no commercial motivation for CX to restart a flight.

Flew on ex CX 77W on the DOH route once last year. It’s not bad, just underwhelming. But QR dining still above CX J level. Pretty agree that no commercial motivation for CX to restart the route.

On fleet, it would be really nice if CX can bring fwd the 339 deliveries. It is such a versatile aircraft in terms of range and load, which can free up some 350 capacity for more long haul expansion. Otherwise, we are just wishing for CX flying carpet to more destinations.

Smart of QR to fly CX's ex-77Ws on the DOH route to deter CX from starting it's own flights on the route...

I just read an article that says Cathay Pacific will resume its seasonal flights to ADL starting in November.https://glamadelaide.com.au/cathay-p...from-adelaide/

Yep, here's the official schedule for the ADL A350...https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f55fbc4e3f.jpg