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nivla83 Nov 25, 2024 7:48 am


Originally Posted by majorpuppy (Post 36685032)
in decemeber its in CX 520/521 to NRT.

so the plane changed from a 77P to a aria plane, which is pretty damn nice.

i think in jan onwards its going to be london (or some other long destination) + one short destination, but I'm not sure

Yup, LHR and SIN (CX739/734) will most probably be next as mentioned.

flyingkel Nov 25, 2024 8:04 am


Originally Posted by nivla83 (Post 36695761)
Yup, LHR and SIN (CX739/734) will most probably be next as mentioned.

I agree SIN should be the next but it really depends on how the retrofit work goes. Seems the second aircraft is not ready yet. Booked a trip to SIN late Dec and it is still showing the 77K config.

abielp Nov 25, 2024 5:31 pm

Did CX opened up award space when it debut Aria suite? Will they open these seats for redemption last minute or they would rather fly them empty?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5f1893c353.png

PaulInTheSky Nov 26, 2024 1:49 am

New seats are pretty bad.
 
Much less space to navigate through the aircraft. You might be able to get through the back and forth with your shoulders sliding towards the inner space of the aisle seats but you can't do that anymore with the new seats.

The biggest advantage is the sliding door which I don't care too much about, but when they have it, they have it.
Padding: This is what I care the most after the seat pitch. Aria J padding may be comparable to the current J herringbone seats, but it's way worse in PEY/Y. You really don't wanna stay there too long for long hauls. I could get by the current CX PEY at times for long haul, but I really don't like the new ones. The seat underneath the padding as hard plastic. Similar to all the new seats in US big 3.

Overall a bad downgrade.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...95c05e328e.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e9b1482cc.jpeg

PaulInTheSky Nov 26, 2024 1:55 am


Originally Posted by HawaiiO (Post 36608273)
Kind of disapppinting
same as current A350 seat but with much less legroom.
2 steps forward and 1 step back

should have done the same as NH/JL
Make a much wider seat with more legroom

It's way worse.
I tried the JL A350 new seat in July. It's far superior.

If you look at all the new seats in comparison (Y/PEY/J), it's 1 step forward 3 steps back.

tfung Nov 26, 2024 3:16 am

Did anyone notice the forward camera seems to be higher now, and maybe even sitting on the nose somewhere? The old one felt like it was on the forward landing gear...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f9c93e52e1.jpg

Arbeysix Nov 26, 2024 3:55 am


Originally Posted by tfung (Post 36697742)
Did anyone notice the forward camera seems to be higher now, and maybe even sitting on the nose somewhere? The old one felt like it was on the forward landing gear...

Oh no. Does that mean I can't check if the push back tug is in position and ready to go when it's already 20 minutes past scheduled ETD? :)

QRC3288 Nov 26, 2024 4:34 am


Originally Posted by tfung (Post 36697742)
Did anyone notice the forward camera seems to be higher now, and maybe even sitting on the nose somewhere? The old one felt like it was on the forward landing gear...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f9c93e52e1.jpg

Agree.

I've done twice now. On one Aria flight it was off. The other one it was on, as your pic shows. I don't mind the change, this is amazing!!! Resolution wonderful, same for the down facing camera. Could see planes in the air as we descended, made out Macau Cotai Jet very clearly one the downwards one turning onto final. Landing was great, like playing a flying game with wonderful resolution.

tfung Nov 26, 2024 6:46 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 36697826)
Agree.

I've done twice now. On one Aria flight it was off. The other one it was on, as your pic shows. I don't mind the change, this is amazing!!! Resolution wonderful, same for the down facing camera. Could see planes in the air as we descended, made out Macau Cotai Jet very clearly one the downwards one turning onto final. Landing was great, like playing a flying game with wonderful resolution.

Yes, even at night I was able to make out the runway lights and and the planes at the airport.. huge upgrade compared to before..

littlevoices Nov 26, 2024 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by abielp (Post 36697009)
Did CX opened up award space when it debut Aria suite? Will they open these seats for redemption last minute or they would rather fly them empty?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5f1893c353.png

With PEK, they didn't open award space, but the flights did have some (as would be the case on an intra-China route on random dates) when the route was launched. That was however, along with cash seats, fairly quickly snapped up during the launch period. On my early flights a week after the suite was launched, they still weren't selling all the seats to make it easier on the crew as far as I could tell - at least PEY was blocked (perhaps they wanted fewer seats in case they had to swap out for the older planes that have 12 fewer seats).

As such, if keen to fly, I'd just keep an eye on it or do a speculative booking or two. However, I would be surprised if CX is going to be releasing many Japan fares in award business though, they can sell them for cash most likely.

abielp Nov 26, 2024 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by littlevoices (Post 36699223)
With PEK, they didn't open award space, but the flights did have some (as would be the case on an intra-China route on random dates) when the route was launched. That was however, along with cash seats, fairly quickly snapped up during the launch period. On my early flights a week after the suite was launched, they still weren't selling all the seats to make it easier on the crew as far as I could tell - at least PEY was blocked (perhaps they wanted fewer seats in case they had to swap out for the older planes that have 12 fewer seats).

As such, if keen to fly, I'd just keep an eye on it or do a speculative booking or two. However, I would be surprised if CX is going to be releasing many Japan fares in award business though, they can sell them for cash most likely.

Thank you. I already have plans to go to Tokyo next month so hoping I could snag one. What are the chances of upgrading/rebooking (economy award redemption) at check in using Asiamiles?

littlevoices Nov 26, 2024 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by abielp (Post 36699257)
Thank you. I already have plans to go to Tokyo next month so hoping I could snag one. What are the chances of upgrading/rebooking (economy award redemption) at check in using Asiamiles?

You may as well try, I would observe on HKG-TYO:
  1. I have upgraded from cash Business to First on the day with Asiamiles with 3 seats, though I am OWE. So it is possible and seems to be closer to "last seat availability". It needed someone to release the seats and approve though via a phone call
  2. However, I have often observed that these flights (like many of Cathay's) are going out nearly completely full going to Japan, even without the Aria suite, so I feel that as a non-CX Sapphire your priority would be pretty low here. Watch ExpertFlyer availability (or equivalent) and arrive early at the airport to ask
Finally, I'm not sure if Asiamiles will let you do a double upgrade from Y-PEY-Biz (I doubt but haven't tried). However, having tried the PEY seats (And not the suite yet!) that does give you the improved camera at least.

flyingkel Nov 26, 2024 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by abielp (Post 36699257)
Thank you. I already have plans to go to Tokyo next month so hoping I could snag one. What are the chances of upgrading/rebooking (economy award redemption) at check in using Asiamiles?

I looked into the availability of CX520 on multiple days early Dec, the zero availability is not because the seats are sold out but rather they are not selling any PEY. The seat map shows the whole PEY is empty.

VE105 Nov 26, 2024 8:53 pm

CX500/501 and CX524/509 would have much more award seats than CX520/521.

abielp Nov 26, 2024 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by littlevoices (Post 36699363)
You may as well try, I would observe on HKG-TYO:
  1. I have upgraded from cash Business to First on the day with Asiamiles with 3 seats, though I am OWE. So it is possible and seems to be closer to "last seat availability". It needed someone to release the seats and approve though via a phone call
  2. However, I have often observed that these flights (like many of Cathay's) are going out nearly completely full going to Japan, even without the Aria suite, so I feel that as a non-CX Sapphire your priority would be pretty low here. Watch ExpertFlyer availability (or equivalent) and arrive early at the airport to ask
Finally, I'm not sure if Asiamiles will let you do a double upgrade from Y-PEY-Biz (I doubt but haven't tried). However, having tried the PEY seats (And not the suite yet!) that does give you the improved camera at least.

Thank you. Will try that. The improved camera is not available on Y? I thought its the same for any class since they have the same IFE.


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 36699565)
CX500/501 and CX524/509 would have much more award seats than CX520/521.

I assumed the same but no award space available even for non Aria Suite flights. CX must be confident to sell most seats.


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