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Old Mar 9, 2023, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by BERbound
Ok slightly geeky question coming up....

Currently at LPA on the terrace watching aircraft land and taxi. I note that some aircraft are assigned a follow me vehicle and others aren't.

At airports which operate these, are these at pilots request ? Or is it just down to the airport ops dependent on stand locatiion?
Normally down to airport operator and the stand, but a pilot can request assistance. I used to fly to Ascension Island where there is one ramp and we always parked in the same place. On the, very, odd occasion if there were two aircraft in that day, we would park next door. You could not get lost on the ramp at all, but the airfield operator ( USAF) insisted we had a follow me all the time, just in case we got lost. Odd but its their rules and their airfield.

Some stands have clever guidance that allow the aircraft to be parked without assistance, some do not, where there is no guidance a marshalled will be required, they often do a double duty as follow me drivers, so you quite often get a follow me car if you need a marshaller.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 5:39 am
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I was on an A321 the other day where the PTU seemed to make a lot of noise (i.e. the "dogs barking") for about 2 minutes after the gear was bought up. Is that normal? I've only ever heard it when the engines have been turned off on the ground.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by c1223
I was on an A321 the other day where the PTU seemed to make a lot of noise (i.e. the "dogs barking") for about 2 minutes after the gear was bought up. Is that normal? I've only ever heard it when the engines have been turned off on the ground.
The PTU runs when there is a pressure differential between the Green and Yellow System Hydraulics. It runs automatically and provides pressure support when the system is being used by its main heavy users such as the gear and flaps etc. You hear it on the ground because it is quieter, if you were in a NEO they are quieter and it may have been just that.
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 1:26 am
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Bussing from B and C gates

Is there a rationale behind sending passengers out to the B and C gates (I'm talking T5 here) only to put them on busses. It happened twice recently - this week for the SFO flight for instance. On that occasion there were free slots on the terminal building. The only reason I can fathom is a need to disperse pax from the A terminal AND the aircraft, for one reason or another, is parked at a remote stand.
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by c1223
I was on an A321 the other day where the PTU seemed to make a lot of noise (i.e. the "dogs barking") for about 2 minutes after the gear was bought up. Is that normal? I've only ever heard it when the engines have been turned off on the ground.
Love the description of the 'dog barking'. Yes, it has become a bit of a family joke now, when we hear that, while waiting to disemBARK (sorry). We look at each other and mime the 'Dog' in time with the noise .
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by onaswan
Is there a rationale behind sending passengers out to the B and C gates (I'm talking T5 here) only to put them on busses. It happened twice recently - this week for the SFO flight for instance. On that occasion there were free slots on the terminal building. The only reason I can fathom is a need to disperse pax from the A terminal AND the aircraft, for one reason or another, is parked at a remote stand.
Happened to me Wednesday LHR to BOS - called to B36 - I was actually relieved no bus, until I got to the gate!! It was a short bus trip to be fair.
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by Luther.e
Hi,

Im 16 and have managed worked my way up to Gold status but because I fly always alone I didnt get let into the lounges every time at T5 due to the alcohol (no where else in Europe has had issues). One day someone who was quite rude ended up putting a note on the system so I rarely get in and even if I do Im later asked to leave because Im told the lounge gets a phone call asking them to do so. Some staff have suggested calling customer service for a manager to put a note on to grant Concorde Room access as its the only lounge without self serve alcohol but they never seem to be able to. Does anyone a know how or who I need to speak to in order to be allowed in?

Thanks
This was a problem I faced, for my children, when not travelling with me or my wife. They were flying in CE, but not allowed lounge access. I posted on here (much as nuffnuff77 suggested) a request for an adult to accompany them in. The response I got went into legalities etc. Annoying but justifiable, I suppose. The annoyance was that they were seasoned 'front end' flyers (like you) who, I knew, could be trusted in the lounge. The upshot was that, with a bit of discussion and persuasion, they were escorted in by a member of the lounge staff, picked up a can of drink and bag of crisps, then sent back outside o consume them there (let's not worry about that breaking one of the lounge's rules!)
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by Simonp27
Happened to me Wednesday LHR to BOS - called to B36 - I was actually relieved no bus, until I got to the gate!! It was a short bus trip to be fair.
The SFO flight (Monday this week) that I quoted originally went from C !
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by onaswan
Is there a rationale behind sending passengers out to the B and C gates (I'm talking T5 here) only to put them on busses. It happened twice recently - this week for the SFO flight for instance. On that occasion there were free slots on the terminal building. The only reason I can fathom is a need to disperse pax from the A terminal AND the aircraft, for one reason or another, is parked at a remote stand.
I am not BA staff. I agree it's the worst of all worlds, it doesn't happen that often, there are 2 reasons for this. The main reason is that the main secondary security team and DHS representative will based in B for the USA destinations; but it also happens when A10 gets overloaded - not so much with passengers (though they will probably feel it is), but the bus access, drive-through and pick-up points are restricted - so at a certain point the whole operation can gum up. SFO has 2 flights (usually), one before the peak, and one after the peak. If the peak has been difficult then I can see why 287 ends up at B or C as a bus pick-up.
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Old Mar 10, 2023, 12:31 pm
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Bus departures from the satellites are nearly always because the additional security staff required for US departures are based over there, and it’s a major faff (not to mention inefficiency) to move them and their equipment over to A10. A minor annoyance for passengers is better than a delay that could become a major problem.
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Old Mar 13, 2023, 11:32 am
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Im really intrigued by this and hope someone can explain. For clarity not a BA flight involved.

A 737-800 today from EDI to LPA (LS715) took off and flew the whole journey at 25,000 feet refuelling at FAO

The delayed return (LS716) is currently airborne and flying back at 24,000. Unsure if it plans to refuel on way back.

What could be the reasons for this to happen? It is obviously perfectly safe or the flight would not be operating, Im just intrigued and did not know where else to ask so hope some of our friendly staffers can explain.

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Old Mar 13, 2023, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by G-BUSI
Im really intrigued by this and hope someone can explain. For clarity not a BA flight involved.

A 737-800 today from EDI to LPA (LS715) took off and flew the whole journey at 25,000 feet refuelling at FAO

The delayed return (LS716) is currently airborne and flying back at 24,000. Unsure if it plans to refuel on way back.

What could be the reasons for this to happen? It is obviously perfectly safe or the flight would not be operating, Im just intrigued and did not know where else to ask so hope some of our friendly staffers can explain.

Thanks
Sounds like it dispatched with a single air conditioning pack U/S which limits 737s to FL250.
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Old Mar 13, 2023, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by G-BUSI
Im really intrigued by this and hope someone can explain. For clarity not a BA flight involved.

A 737-800 today from EDI to LPA (LS715) took off and flew the whole journey at 25,000 feet refuelling at FAO

The delayed return (LS716) is currently airborne and flying back at 24,000. Unsure if it plans to refuel on way back.

What could be the reasons for this to happen? It is obviously perfectly safe or the flight would not be operating, Im just intrigued and did not know where else to ask so hope some of our friendly staffers can explain.

Thanks
Due to the French ATC strike there have been severe capacity issues at the main busy flight levels. Going below (in the usually less busy levels) may have facilitated a better routing to avoid either a long delay waiting on an ATC slot or a longer routing around France to avoid the French airspace. For example yesterday below FL295 outbound and FL265 on the way back were far less restrictive than above that. Reduced the slots from 2-4 hours to about 20 mins for us. This is one potential reason.

There maybe another reason specific to the 737, some technical issues have a maximum altitude. Im unsure of 737 specifics tho.

Edit: @Sigwx has provided more 737 specific technical defect which is very probable. Out of pure curiosity the A320 limit with one pack is 31,500ft.
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Old Mar 13, 2023, 11:57 am
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Thank you both. I think @Sigwx has given the most probable explanation. Looks like all other traffic in the area are at a more usual altitude.
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Old Mar 13, 2023, 11:57 am
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