Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jul 2, 2017, 2:19 pm
#2776
Join Date: Jun 2017
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Jul 2, 2017, 7:47 pm
#2777
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ORD
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Jul 3, 2017, 12:41 am
#2778
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Newcastle
Programs: Marriott Gold, BAEC
Posts: 56
Just checked in for our NCL - LHR leg and it's operated by Qatar.
Quite looking forward to see the inside of the plane as I've never flown on theirs before.
I can get a refund for the seats I booked that aren't available, can't i?
LL
Quite looking forward to see the inside of the plane as I've never flown on theirs before.
I can get a refund for the seats I booked that aren't available, can't i?
LL
Jul 3, 2017, 12:49 am
#2779
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: UK/France
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hertz Gold, Avis Preferred, Honours Silver, Marriott, Hyatt, IHG
Posts: 274
Day 3 and it look "ops normal" per ba.com. 23 flights left early in the first hour or so ex LHR. No cancellations. Its difficult to imagine where this goes next.
Jul 3, 2017, 1:01 am
#2780
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Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,968
Jul 3, 2017, 8:37 am
#2782
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Australia
Programs: QF LTS, Marriott LTP, ALL GOLD
Posts: 2,440
Striking is a difficult business. Lots of individuals may feel aggrieved, but equally may feel that the strike action is not something they want to partake in.
The creation of Mixed fleet has been of tremendous benefit to BA - driving down costs, increasing profitability and allowing new rotes to be launched. In many ways BA don't want the vast majority to remain on-board long term - they would prefer people towards the bottom end of the scale.
The big problem for the Union is that mixed fleet are limited in number and the airline can carry on operations as normal with WW, EF and a little help from friends. Compare this to the previous summer action at WW, EF, Catering, etc. The airline was effectively grounded for days. That just doesn't happen anymore. Unless BA upset flight crew.....
The creation of Mixed fleet has been of tremendous benefit to BA - driving down costs, increasing profitability and allowing new rotes to be launched. In many ways BA don't want the vast majority to remain on-board long term - they would prefer people towards the bottom end of the scale.
The big problem for the Union is that mixed fleet are limited in number and the airline can carry on operations as normal with WW, EF and a little help from friends. Compare this to the previous summer action at WW, EF, Catering, etc. The airline was effectively grounded for days. That just doesn't happen anymore. Unless BA upset flight crew.....
Jul 3, 2017, 10:28 am
#2783
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: A hop, skip and jump away from MAN.
Programs: BAEC Gold, ex-VS Gold, ex-UA Gold, Premier Inn Platinum-Iridium
Posts: 1,114
My MAN-LHR yesterday was covered by a MF crew. 4 in total, 2 of which were CSMs, with one "working down". No hats.
While transferring around LHR I did spy crew with hat boxes, but no worn hats.
While transferring around LHR I did spy crew with hat boxes, but no worn hats.
Jul 3, 2017, 10:41 am
#2784
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Jul 3, 2017, 11:17 am
#2785
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: A hop, skip and jump away from MAN.
Programs: BAEC Gold, ex-VS Gold, ex-UA Gold, Premier Inn Platinum-Iridium
Posts: 1,114
Jul 3, 2017, 11:18 am
#2786
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,630
As a matter of interest, if it's just cabin crew who are in dispute what happens to the pilots who would have flown the flights that have been replaced by QR crew. Do they just get stood down with the potential to pick up lost hours on other routes later in the year?
Jul 3, 2017, 2:30 pm
#2787
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,926
The general population is never going to support the strike as they cannot distinguish between the esoteric nature of BA crews and firmly believe that BA operates the only restaurant where the waitresses earn more than the customers.
I'm afraid mixed fleet have lost this unless most are leaving and few are joining.
I'm afraid mixed fleet have lost this unless most are leaving and few are joining.
Jul 3, 2017, 8:57 pm
#2789
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
Jul 3, 2017, 9:21 pm
#2790
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: UK/France
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hertz Gold, Avis Preferred, Honours Silver, Marriott, Hyatt, IHG
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