Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jun 28, 2017, 7:33 am
#2736
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As of 1st March 2017, when the Trade Union Act 2016 came into force, it's 14 days. You may find some Government websites are not yet updated and quote the previous 7 day period.
Jun 28, 2017, 9:01 am
#2737
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Jun 28, 2017, 10:38 am
#2738
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Delayed greetings to the forum Alanso2. It's good to see you here on the BA forum and I do hope you can continue to play an active part here.
There is probably a standard message for all similar queries of this sort:
- Precise changes will be announced between 3 and 1 day(s) before travel
- Usually this will allow people to rebook travel (or get a refund)
- Until that time it is impossible to be sure which flights will be affected, other than it's typically/mainly MF services and only to/from LHR.
- Shorthaul is at more risk than longhaul, however BA have committed to ensuring all passengers will be able to get to their destination.
- if the outbound from London operated, then the inbound to London will almost certainly operate.
What can you do now?
- By all means consider whether going earlier/later will be best and which services will work for you.
- Check your email address + SMS number is up to date
- Check Flight Status on BA.com / Information - the best source of precise information, if a service is cancelled it goes red there.
- Check Manage My Booking (however this may lag Flight Status)
- Keep an eye on this thread.
What you probably can't do?
- Rebook alternative flights off your own bat, unless the cancellation fees work to cover it either way (so typically one or both flights are refundable)
- Find out anything more precise more than 3 days away from travel.
- Read too much into services which appear to be sold out or with zero'd availability.
If it is not a MF route, there is no real point getting concerned at all - see Wiki above to find these routes. If it's longhaul I wouldn't be too concerned. If it's shorthaul then you may be early/late but it will probably work out. If it's shorthaul connecting to longhaul then the stakes are a bit higher but it's probably less fretful than a windy day at Heathrow.
There is probably a standard message for all similar queries of this sort:
- Precise changes will be announced between 3 and 1 day(s) before travel
- Usually this will allow people to rebook travel (or get a refund)
- Until that time it is impossible to be sure which flights will be affected, other than it's typically/mainly MF services and only to/from LHR.
- Shorthaul is at more risk than longhaul, however BA have committed to ensuring all passengers will be able to get to their destination.
- if the outbound from London operated, then the inbound to London will almost certainly operate.
What can you do now?
- By all means consider whether going earlier/later will be best and which services will work for you.
- Check your email address + SMS number is up to date
- Check Flight Status on BA.com / Information - the best source of precise information, if a service is cancelled it goes red there.
- Check Manage My Booking (however this may lag Flight Status)
- Keep an eye on this thread.
What you probably can't do?
- Rebook alternative flights off your own bat, unless the cancellation fees work to cover it either way (so typically one or both flights are refundable)
- Find out anything more precise more than 3 days away from travel.
- Read too much into services which appear to be sold out or with zero'd availability.
If it is not a MF route, there is no real point getting concerned at all - see Wiki above to find these routes. If it's longhaul I wouldn't be too concerned. If it's shorthaul then you may be early/late but it will probably work out. If it's shorthaul connecting to longhaul then the stakes are a bit higher but it's probably less fretful than a windy day at Heathrow.
Jun 28, 2017, 11:31 am
#2739
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Spotted a few longhaul cancellations, such as:
BA79/01July LHR-MCT
BA80/02July MCT-LHR
BA83/02July LHR-ABV
BA82/03July ABV-LHR
BA125/03July LHR-BAH
BA124/05July BAH-LHR
BA173/04July LHR-JFK
BA112/04July JFK-LHR
BA75/05July LHR-LOS
BA74/05July LOS-LHR
BA133/05July LHR-JED
BA132/06July JED-LHR
BA79/01July LHR-MCT
BA80/02July MCT-LHR
BA83/02July LHR-ABV
BA82/03July ABV-LHR
BA125/03July LHR-BAH
BA124/05July BAH-LHR
BA173/04July LHR-JFK
BA112/04July JFK-LHR
BA75/05July LHR-LOS
BA74/05July LOS-LHR
BA133/05July LHR-JED
BA132/06July JED-LHR
It looks like BA is in full of control of the situation at the moment and not many additional flights will be announced canceled especially the strike suppose to start in 3 days.
Jun 28, 2017, 11:54 am
#2740
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ending with the 14th day before the starting date, or the seventh day before that date if the union and the employer so agree.
Jun 28, 2017, 1:06 pm
#2742
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Except if the Union and the Employer agrees to 7 days as per Section 8