Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jul 5, 2017, 10:12 am
#2806
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Jul 5, 2017, 10:25 am
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Of course, that's not an MF salary so it's OT here. Though perhaps such figures may explain why BA created MF in the first place.
. I assume the flights will go on, but I will be annoyed if it's 'reduced service' on board.
Jul 5, 2017, 10:44 am
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Jul 5, 2017, 10:46 am
#2811
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LOL. I'm in J and long haul and saw a report about J service being pared down due to fewer than usual crew on the 787.
I haven't read every post, but has there been any consensus about recourse/compensation were that to happen?
I haven't read every post, but has there been any consensus about recourse/compensation were that to happen?
Jul 5, 2017, 12:32 pm
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BA 458 to MAD just canceled for tomorrow morning (777, MF). Called immediately and was able to rebook on 456 for the last two seats in J. That flight has been "upgraded" to a 767. Agent could not quite understand why flight was canceled so close to departure time; maybe they needed plane somewhere else?
Jul 5, 2017, 1:16 pm
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It's a bit slower - that's about it really.
Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 pm
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BA 458 to MAD just canceled for tomorrow morning (777, MF). Called immediately and was able to rebook on 456 for the last two seats in J. That flight has been "upgraded" to a 767. Agent could not quite understand why flight was canceled so close to departure time; maybe they needed plane somewhere else?
The 456 is normally a 767, whenever I've taken it.
458 is part of 20 odd cancellations for tomorrow due forecast thunderstorms.
Jul 5, 2017, 1:19 pm
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Basically, so few cancellations, so little disruption, that it simply hasn't been worth talking about.
I suspect, but haven't counted, that there were almost as many posts about the QR seating and service than there have been in this thread in the same time frame.
And that - as I keep saying - is the problem MF have. Until they cause pictures of crying children on the front of the Daily Mail, the public won't care and if BA are intransigent about the costs they are taking on - they won't win.
Now - the question is how much of a brave face BA are putting on the costs and how long are they really willing to keep with it.
Jul 5, 2017, 1:35 pm
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yes, just realized that it is b/c of thunderstorms. Still odd to cancel the 777 instead of the 767, but maybe it is b/c the 6 to 7 am time slot is not as crowded as the 7 to 8 am time slot?
Jul 5, 2017, 2:53 pm
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Jul 5, 2017, 4:01 pm
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