WW "airlines to go bust"
Apr 18, 2022, 10:02 am
#1456
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Jan 27, 2023, 11:47 pm
#1457
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Jan 28, 2023, 5:27 am
#1459
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Jan 28, 2023, 7:27 am
#1460
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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Summary
Following the suspension of Flybe services, British Airways is supporting affected customers by offering them discounted one-way fares of 50/€60 plus taxes, fees and charges. This special fare includes one piece of hold luggage of 23kg.
More information
We are offering discounted one-way fares of 50/€60 plus taxes, fees and charges between London and the following cities:
• Belfast
• Newcastle
• Amsterdam
Customers who previously held a confirmed booking for Flybe to or from the above cities who wish to take advantage of the special fare should contact our customer service team quoting their Flybe booking reference. The rescue fares are available for travel up to and including 08 February 2023.
We will help as much as we can in the coming days, but please bear with us as we are experiencing a high volume of calls.
Special fares for Flybe customers
We're offering special fares on selected routes Find out moreSummary
Following the suspension of Flybe services, British Airways is supporting affected customers by offering them discounted one-way fares of 50/€60 plus taxes, fees and charges. This special fare includes one piece of hold luggage of 23kg.
More information
We are offering discounted one-way fares of 50/€60 plus taxes, fees and charges between London and the following cities:
• Belfast
• Newcastle
• Amsterdam
Customers who previously held a confirmed booking for Flybe to or from the above cities who wish to take advantage of the special fare should contact our customer service team quoting their Flybe booking reference. The rescue fares are available for travel up to and including 08 February 2023.
We will help as much as we can in the coming days, but please bear with us as we are experiencing a high volume of calls.
Jan 28, 2023, 10:39 am
#1461
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Surprised they went so quick, is the domestic market that bad......
I helped a friend get from Bristol to Stornoway for a funeral last week....Logan Air with a stop 1400, BA from LHR then Logan Air 1360.....they're obviously selling seats.
In the end Bristol to Inverness on EZY, car rental and ferry - 500.
I had reason to travel from Lancashire to Norwich last week, trains awful (if not on strike), driving a pain, the Mancheater to Norwich flight was ideal for this kind of cross country journey.
Can't see BA adding much to the domestic market beyond more connections to LHR sadly.
I helped a friend get from Bristol to Stornoway for a funeral last week....Logan Air with a stop 1400, BA from LHR then Logan Air 1360.....they're obviously selling seats.
In the end Bristol to Inverness on EZY, car rental and ferry - 500.
I had reason to travel from Lancashire to Norwich last week, trains awful (if not on strike), driving a pain, the Mancheater to Norwich flight was ideal for this kind of cross country journey.
Can't see BA adding much to the domestic market beyond more connections to LHR sadly.
Jan 28, 2023, 11:55 am
#1462
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Devon, UK
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Surprised they went so quick, is the domestic market that bad......
I helped a friend get from Bristol to Stornoway for a funeral last week....Logan Air with a stop 1400, BA from LHR then Logan Air 1360.....they're obviously selling seats.
In the end Bristol to Inverness on EZY, car rental and ferry - 500.
I had reason to travel from Lancashire to Norwich last week, trains awful (if not on strike), driving a pain, the Mancheater to Norwich flight was ideal for this kind of cross country journey.
Can't see BA adding much to the domestic market beyond more connections to LHR sadly.
I helped a friend get from Bristol to Stornoway for a funeral last week....Logan Air with a stop 1400, BA from LHR then Logan Air 1360.....they're obviously selling seats.
In the end Bristol to Inverness on EZY, car rental and ferry - 500.
I had reason to travel from Lancashire to Norwich last week, trains awful (if not on strike), driving a pain, the Mancheater to Norwich flight was ideal for this kind of cross country journey.
Can't see BA adding much to the domestic market beyond more connections to LHR sadly.
Jan 29, 2023, 6:09 am
#1463
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: GLA/EDI
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Desperately sorry , particularly for the staff ,to see FLY BE 2 go , if they could have held on a few more months things might have worked out : Loganair aside. It has the support of the Scottish Government with its AD Scheme ,but domestic business travell looks like being slow to recover , I suspect many people are using the roads because it is seen as less disreputable Across the Irish sea , usually a busy routes for business people things have not recovered , On Thursday flew BHD - GLA on Emerald uk , prime time , an ATR -72 , 60% capacity , I paid 40 for a single at short notice , before lock down FLYBE did this service at least 4 a day and charge minimum 100 , , the market is not there yet ,
Jan 29, 2023, 7:17 am
#1465
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 55
Given the title of the thread, here are Willie Walsh's comments on the grounding of Flybe Mark I in March 2020. The definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I've absolutely no doubt that you know, there are airlines out there that just can't survive this. And, you know, I feel sorry for some of them. Others I don't. Like, I can have no sympathy for the likes of Flybe, you know, in an environment like this. You know, that's a business model that doesn't work with shareholders that have suddenly cottoned on that they've bought a dog. And you know, the idea that the British government is going to bail them out in this environment I think is madness. So, you know, I have no hesitation in saying that I don't see governments coming to the rescue of weak airlines. They don't need to. There are plenty of airlines out there that are in a healthy position who will provide the capacity that is required.
Jan 29, 2023, 5:06 pm
#1466
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Hampshire, UK & Bangor, N.I
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They were 95% of Southampton airport in Flybe V1 days. Since then, Eastern Airways took up the Southampton - Belfast City route and then Aer Lingus Regional came in as well. It's a fairly popular route, quietest I recall would be over 50% of the ATRs seats filled and occasionally Eastern would deploy their E190.
Guess who decided they'd also like to try and get back in on the action... Three separate regional carriers going from small regional airport to small regional airport. Given the choice between ATR or Dash 8, I know which one I'd pick. Let alone the higher pricing, utterly poor reliability and awful customer service. No thanks.
Jan 30, 2023, 2:31 am
#1467
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
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I only ever looked at AMS-BHX for FlyBe2, but they listed KLM-level prices in a market that now has U2 service - with the added danger that they'd go bust before your flight. There's a decent market - pretty sure KL and BE were routinely full before the pandemic - and U2's price advantage is illusory if you [think you] need to take a rollaboard, but three carriers in that market seemed bullish.
Sep 18, 2023, 6:28 am
#1470
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