WW "airlines to go bust"
#1426
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
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I wouldn't worry about LGW, I'd worry about STN and LTN - I'm sure the low cost airlines would dump those two airports in a heartbeat in favor of LGW. I know I'd consider flying FR if I didn't have to trek out to STN. As it is, 2+ hours on the train just isn't feasible for a weekend break.
I do think LGW will suffer some heavy losses. Gatwick has always been the next best thing to LHR and handled a lot of the spillover from LHR. Airlines who couldn’t get slots (or couldn’t get more slots) at LHR, chose Gatwick. But now that LHR has room and demand is drastically down, things will change. We’ve already seen Virgin/Cathay/Emirates/Air Malta consolidate their ops at LHR for now, and I’m sure more will follow. easyJet and TUI will remain strong at Gatwick though and BA will be keeping a fair few long haul routes, so not all is lost.
#1427
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
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Posts: 2,632
I wouldn't worry about LGW, I'd worry about STN and LTN - I'm sure the low cost airlines would dump those two airports in a heartbeat in favor of LGW. I know I'd consider flying FR if I didn't have to trek out to STN. As it is, 2+ hours on the train just isn't feasible for a weekend break.
#1428
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 972
Wizz has been desperate to get into LGW and has seen its attempts frustrated, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did try to move to LGW. They operate an interesting array of Eastern Europe destinations that are starved of completion, so if the London market or indeed the ex-pats in London prefer LGW to LTN, they might well follow the money.
#1429
Join Date: Sep 2014
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#1430
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: BA - Blue > Bronze > Silver > Bronze > Blue
Posts: 6,814
I think there is a future in low cost, p2p long haul, it’s on narrow-bodies though.
#1432
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 491
Agreed - it just feels like B6 have far more experience on how to do long-ish flights already. They do South America and some of those flights are at the 5-6 hour mark. This feels like a more logical extension to me, than Norwegian ever did. JetBlue also have a great reputation and brand recognition in the U.S. which is crucial.
#1433
Join Date: Dec 2013
Programs: QRPC Platinum, KFEG
Posts: 1,008
Air Antwerp (flying ANR-LCY-ANR in a single Fokker 50) ceases operation.
https://www.ifn.news/posts/air-antwe...es-operations/
Having flown with them on their first day and last week before COVID shut down LCY I'll definitely miss them, it was such a good connection to go back and forth to certain areas in Belgium by avoiding BRU. Friendly staff and great well known pilot as well.
https://www.ifn.news/posts/air-antwe...es-operations/
Having flown with them on their first day and last week before COVID shut down LCY I'll definitely miss them, it was such a good connection to go back and forth to certain areas in Belgium by avoiding BRU. Friendly staff and great well known pilot as well.
#1434
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,386
Another one to add to the list. Will have an impact on BA & especially EI
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
#1435
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
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Apparently Aer Lingus had awarded the new franchise for EI regional flights to Emerald Airlines so it was always going away from Stobart. The problem now is Emerald we’re not due to take over until the end of 2022 or start of 2023, so who knows what happens now with those routes.
Quite a substantial loss, and at this rate there will be more this year unfortunately.
Quite a substantial loss, and at this rate there will be more this year unfortunately.
#1436
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Orchard Co. NI
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 607
Another one to add to the list. Will have an impact on BA & especially EI
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
#1437
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: London, UK
Programs: bmi DC, BAEC
Posts: 1,168
Apparently Aer Lingus had awarded the new franchise for EI regional flights to Emerald Airlines so it was always going away from Stobart. The problem now is Emerald we’re not due to take over until the end of 2022 or start of 2023, so who knows what happens now with those routes.
Quite a substantial loss, and at this rate there will be more this year unfortunately.
Quite a substantial loss, and at this rate there will be more this year unfortunately.
Maybe a triangle routing DUB-GLA-EDI-DUB ?!
#1438
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: The Blackwater Valley (Berkshire/Hampshire/Surrey border area)
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Another one to add to the list. Will have an impact on BA & especially EI
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
#1439
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
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A ,lot of the Stobart routes for Aer Lingus had BA codeshares. So this turn of events has cut out a number of options for BA ticketing such as NCL-DUB-BOS. Many (maybe all) of these codeshares were standalone, so you didn't need another Aer Lingus flight to make it work.
#1440
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: The Blackwater Valley (Berkshire/Hampshire/Surrey border area)
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Aer Lingus cancels all Stobart Air regional flights
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021...5-stobart-air/
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