Clinic Thread - Lounge access rules
Oct 15, 2011, 8:17 am
#121
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Get your LHR-MAN boarding pass at while at JFK.
Use flight connections to go airside at T5 and enjoy the CCR.
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Oct 18, 2011, 4:16 pm
#122
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Flying into LHR in FIRST connecting to MAN - Lounge access
Hi I am due to fly from LAS to MAN via LHR later this year on a one way FIRST miles redemption.
I was wondering will this give me access to the concord lounge on my lay over in LHR?
If not what lounge options do I have?
Any help would be much appreciated
I was wondering will this give me access to the concord lounge on my lay over in LHR?
If not what lounge options do I have?
Any help would be much appreciated
Oct 18, 2011, 4:23 pm
#124
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You can access all lounges, including the Concorde Room. Keep your inbound F boarding pass stub to show at the CCR entrance.
Oct 18, 2011, 4:30 pm
#125
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OP, welcome to FlyerTalk. I would suggest you read the many trip reports here about BA F to learn about what you can expect. There are also many threads with a lot of information that you might want to take advantage of your experience. Enjoy.
Oct 18, 2011, 4:57 pm
#127
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I belive the OP can show any BP to gain entrance, the computer will know he came in on F (at least that is what a CCR agent told me as she scanned my CE ticket).
OP, welcome to FlyerTalk. I would suggest you read the many trip reports here about BA F to learn about what you can expect. There are also many threads with a lot of information that you might want to take advantage of your experience. Enjoy.
OP, welcome to FlyerTalk. I would suggest you read the many trip reports here about BA F to learn about what you can expect. There are also many threads with a lot of information that you might want to take advantage of your experience. Enjoy.
If the LHR-MAN flight is on a different PNR to the inbound F flight, the computer will say no upon trying to get into the CCR if you try to gain entry with your LHR-MAN boarding pass, although you are still entitled to CCR entry as an inbound F pax and will have to show your F boarding pass.
Last edited by lancefan; Oct 18, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Oct 18, 2011, 11:49 pm
#129
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Oct 19, 2011, 12:42 am
#130
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Not in my experience. I've been granted lounge access even when the inbound and connecting flights are on different PNRs. Sometimes it's even been different airlines (inbound on AA plane/ticket, connection on BA plane/ticket) and I've not had difficulties with lounge access. GF, not CCR in my case, but doubt there'd be a difference.
Oct 19, 2011, 1:18 am
#131
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Rather, I think that what lancefan meant was that if the two flights are on different PNRs, scanning the "other" BP won't show the lounge agent that you qualify for lounge access, because it'll only show the deep discount Y flight (or whatever). That's when you must show the BP that qualifies you for access.
However, if it's all on one PNR, scanning either BP will show the lounge agent your whole itinerary, so that the agent can immediately see that you're entitled to entry even though you've only presented the "other" BP.
Oct 19, 2011, 10:40 am
#132
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I don't think that's the issue.
Rather, I think that what lancefan meant was that if the two flights are on different PNRs, scanning the "other" BP won't show the lounge agent that you qualify for lounge access, because it'll only show the deep discount Y flight (or whatever). That's when you must show the BP that qualifies you for access.
However, if it's all on one PNR, scanning either BP will show the lounge agent your whole itinerary, so that the agent can immediately see that you're entitled to entry even though you've only presented the "other" BP.
Rather, I think that what lancefan meant was that if the two flights are on different PNRs, scanning the "other" BP won't show the lounge agent that you qualify for lounge access, because it'll only show the deep discount Y flight (or whatever). That's when you must show the BP that qualifies you for access.
However, if it's all on one PNR, scanning either BP will show the lounge agent your whole itinerary, so that the agent can immediately see that you're entitled to entry even though you've only presented the "other" BP.
Either way, it certainly is a good idea to keep the F pass at the very least to be safe and potentially save time/hassle.
Oct 19, 2011, 10:43 am
#133
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I don't think that's the issue.
Rather, I think that what lancefan meant was that if the two flights are on different PNRs, scanning the "other" BP won't show the lounge agent that you qualify for lounge access, because it'll only show the deep discount Y flight (or whatever). That's when you must show the BP that qualifies you for access.
However, if it's all on one PNR, scanning either BP will show the lounge agent your whole itinerary, so that the agent can immediately see that you're entitled to entry even though you've only presented the "other" BP.
Rather, I think that what lancefan meant was that if the two flights are on different PNRs, scanning the "other" BP won't show the lounge agent that you qualify for lounge access, because it'll only show the deep discount Y flight (or whatever). That's when you must show the BP that qualifies you for access.
However, if it's all on one PNR, scanning either BP will show the lounge agent your whole itinerary, so that the agent can immediately see that you're entitled to entry even though you've only presented the "other" BP.
Dec 1, 2011, 4:42 am
#134
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Just received a response from BA Customer Relations, which seems to confirm that AA EXPs have access to the T5 Arrivals Lounge when arriving at T5 on a longhaul BA flight (in any cabin). More details here.
Again, while this benefit is widely discussed on FT, the dragons and their supervisor had never heard of it when I visited on the 17th of August 2011. Now at least I have an email from BA which I can print out and bring along for my next visit ^
Again, while this benefit is widely discussed on FT, the dragons and their supervisor had never heard of it when I visited on the 17th of August 2011. Now at least I have an email from BA which I can print out and bring along for my next visit ^
The BA staff person at the desk showed me the guide they use to determine access eligibility (the "BA Lounge Eligibility Guide"), and it clearly shows that AA EXPs (i.e. AA OWEs) are not allowed inside in these situations. Double checked and the relevant websites still say the opposite. Very strange indeed. Have sent off another message to BA Customer Relations.
In the meantime, I'd recommend that any AA EXP who is arriving at T5 in TATL WT or WT+ should bring printouts of the relevant websites (see quoted thread above). Will post if/when I hear back from BA.
Last edited by ExpatExp; Dec 1, 2011 at 4:58 am
Dec 1, 2011, 10:00 am
#135
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Instead of our usual direct LHR to LAS journey, we are thinking about stopping at JFK on the way - for some extra tier points. We're determined to get 1500 this year!! 
So if we fly BA 1st to JFK and get the connecting flight to LAS on AA, can we get access to the CCR at JFK for a 5 hour layover?
And if so, can we also delay the LAS flight to the next day and still get CCR access - if it’s all on the same ticket?
Thanks!
So if we fly BA 1st to JFK and get the connecting flight to LAS on AA, can we get access to the CCR at JFK for a 5 hour layover?
And if so, can we also delay the LAS flight to the next day and still get CCR access - if it’s all on the same ticket?
Thanks!