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Old Jul 12, 2021, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by zxrst
There are a couple of "easy to maintain" 2% cash back cards. 2.625% sounds nice, but in realty, you earn only extra $187.5 even with $30,000 spending. You are better off just by getting ONE new card SUB or redeem some American express offers.
I think 2% or 2.625% cash back cards are great for saving a baseline amount without any further work. Those of us in this thread probably consider looking for good new signup bonuses and tracking/redeeming Amex/Chase offers to be part of the travel optimization hobby. Others don’t want another part time job.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by gooselee
....agree with mia that Amex Plat beats CSR specifically for airfare.
...but it may not beat it by enough to justify the $695 fee. Here's my idiosyncrasy. I don't care what conclusions others reach, but I am very interested in the reasoning and evidence they use to get there. When I ask this type of question it doesn't mean I disagree, it means there was a gap in the explanation that I'd like to understand.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 10:35 am
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Did any existing cardmember with renewal dates Jan or later get notice of higher fee in their July statement? My account anniversary is in Dec but the annual fee bills on Jan statement. I'm assuming I'll be hit with $695 fee.

July statement closed with notices about CS Invest with rewards, new benefits, centurion access changes but no mention of fee increase.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Acid
Did any existing cardmember with renewal dates Jan or later get notice of higher fee in their July statement? My account anniversary is in Dec but the annual fee bills on Jan statement. I'm assuming I'll be hit with $695 fee.

July statement closed with notices about CS Invest with rewards, new benefits, centurion access changes but no mention of fee increase.
Did you get this email last week?




my AF posts in late January.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
Show us your arithmetic:

Chase $50,000 x 3 = 150,000 UR points x $0.015 = $2,250
Amex $50,000 x 5 = 250,000 MR points x $0.011 = $2,750
I can move the travel over to chase and save the $695. My sapphire reserve fee is already covered by dining.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Statman
To the best of my knowledge, the Platinum benefits NEVER extend to the free Gold card for authorized users.
Below is an email that my AU received last week - they have a free gold card. It clearly states which benefits are "shared" with the primary card holder.

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Old Jul 12, 2021, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jags86
I mean CSR vs Platinum, of course. But I disagree looking at the portfolio overall. Most folks have 1 or 2 cards they use regularly. AMEX Gold is 4x on restaurants and groceries. I would say “regular people” are spending way more on groceries and dining and earning 4x vs. 3x on travel and dining.

1.5cpp with PYB is great…but if that’s what you regularly use your points for, I think the the Altitude Reserve is superior to what Chase offers. Yes, you are losing 5x opportunities…but “regular people” aren’t heavily shopping 5x categories with an ink cash card and “regular people” aren’t keeping up with or maximizing the 5x Freedom categories.
The AMEX gold would arguably be the best return on AMEX CB for me. People are attracted to 4 and 5x returns. However, I am curious how the actual math would look to most people. To have the Gold and Platinum is $945 in AFs. If we're talking about a 1-2x difference between other cards, that is quite the spend to get there. While I wouldn't be mad at a better grocery return, some of us buy most of our stuff in warehouse clubs or superstores where this does no good. Heck, I spent more on Lyft the past month than I did in grocery stores. CIC gets me 7.5% on recurring charges like internet, TV streaming, and cell phone. That's without having to redo my plans to work around some "credit".

It's tough to group all of the spending habits of "regular people." Everyone spends their money differently. Some people would be legitimately better with a free card. Some people don't even know where they spend their money. Some are missing out on big rewards for multiple reasons. As much as people hate to hear this, the 4 and 5x points are largely for theater. Your average person isn't cleaning up nearly as much as they think they are.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
Did you get this email last week?



my AF posts in late January.
I got the email, but prior rumors were that July statement will include the official notice of fee increase. Cardmember agreement also mentions $550 still. So does a December anniversary but Jan statement AF post date mean we are still considered as Dec 'renewal'?
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Acid
I got the email, but prior rumors were that July statement will include the official notice of fee increase. Cardmember agreement also mentions $550 still. So does a December anniversary but Jan statement AF post date mean we are still considered as Dec 'renewal'?
Hmm, that’s an interesting point. The screenshot of my email talks about anniversary renewal date. What’s the definition of that - the date on which the annual fee posts, or the actual anniversary of the opening date of the account? My AF posts apparently at the end of the January billing cycle near the end of Jan, but that statement always has some trx from December, so I presumably opened my account in December.

I haven’t received my July statement yet, so unfortunately I can’t answer your actual question.

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Old Jul 12, 2021, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
Hmm, that’s an interesting point. The screenshot of my email talks about anniversary date. What’s the definition of that - the date on which the annual fee posts, or the actual anniversary of the opening date of the account? My AF posts apparently at the end of the January billing cycle near the end of Jan, but that statement always has some trx from December, so I presumably opened my account in December.

I haven’t received my July statement yet, so unfortunately I can’t answer your actual question.
I'm assuming there will be many like us here - 'triple dip' season folks who opened their cards in Dec with AF billed in Jan. The 'renewal' date is not clear.
Wondering if anyone with Feb-June AF bill date has their cardmember agreement reflecting $695 fee
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 5:54 pm
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I just chatted with Amex CS and they confirmed Jan XX as my renewal date.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 8:06 pm
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When does the $200 travel credit reset?
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by festriaqua
When does the $200 travel credit reset?
See the T&C:

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...num/terms.html

the credit is "$200 per calendar year", so Jan 1-Dec 31. Supposedly the date of the transaction is the one that "counts" (not when it posts) but at least one person reported otherwise in the DL-specific thread (I don't closely follow the others), so best not to cut it close if you want to be sure.

EDIT: sorry, I had the airline fee credit in my mind by default, but it seems like you were asking about the new-ish $200 travel credit.
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 8:18 pm
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One benefit they could add is to cover Nexus
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Old Jul 12, 2021, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
One benefit they could add is to cover Nexus
Be better if it was for Lexus.

"I named my daughter Alexis because that's the car I could afford if I didn't have children".

(Think about it for a minute.)
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