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Welcome to the Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels (ne BookAAHotels) Official Thread & Wiki!
reflecting July 2023 program changes

AAdvantage Hotels Customer Support phone # (844) 801-6778 and email is [email protected]

Posting times per the AA Hotels Platform FAQ: "Rewards typically post between 3-4 weeks after your stay is completed with the transaction date reflecting your check-in date. If booked through one of our suppliers that provide Pay Later rates (pay upon check-in), the rewards typically post within 4 6 weeks after your stay is completed."

Posting times per FT user experience: Varies greatly, and cyclically through the year, between several days to 6 weeks after checkout. Within 2 weeks after checkout is arguably "average" but YMMV greatly. Notwithstanding whatever wait you might have, the points will eventually post.

0. Why should I use RocketMiles over AAdvantage Hotels?
You shouldn't. There are no advantages to doing so unless you truly have no superior booking option. AAdvantage Hotels, now being on the same platform, is strictly better if your goal is AA LPs or AA RDM. (Note: RocketMiles, the engine for AAdvantage Hotels, is owned by Booking Holdings: https://about.rocketmiles.com/how-it-works who also owns Priceline, Agoda, Kayak, etc.)

1. Do base miles earned on AAdvantage Hotels count towards Loyalty Point earnings/status?
Yes - but any boost miles (miles purchased during checkout) only count as redeemable miles.

2. How can I maximize my AA earnings?

a. via AAHotels Customers who have AAdvantage elite status, and/or have any AA co-branded credit card earn significantly more LPs/RDMs per reservation. Customers who have either AA status OR an AA credit card will earn up to 5x more LPs/RDMs than the normal rate, while customers who have both AA status AND an AA credit card will earn up to 10x LPs/RDMs more than the normal rate (up to 15,000 LP max). The extra LP/RDM earnings for being an AA card holder apply whether or not you charge the reservation to your AA credit card. The total LPs/RDMs to be earned through AAHotels are reflected on your reservation and post to AA.com after your hotel stay, see questions 6 and 7 below.

b. via AA Loyalty Point Rewards Purchases made via AAHotels (and other "select partners") benefit from "Loyalty Point Reward" bonuses given to AAdvantage Members who reach certain LP thresholds (20% bonus for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). Further information on LP Reward bonuses here and on this FT thread. LP Reward bonuses do not generate additional RDMs. LP Reward bonuses will be added automatically to your total LP earnings when your hotel stay posts to AA.com, see questions 6 and 7 below.

c. via AA co-branded credit card You will also earn 1 LP and (generally) 1 RDM for every dollar charged to an AA credit card, as you would for any purchase. AA Hotels stays are not considered eligible AA purchases for purposes of increased miles earnings on AA credit cards. However, holders of the Citi AA Executive Mastercard will earn an additional 9x RDM per dollar spent on AAHotels (for a total of 10 RDM per dollar). LPs and RDMs earned by credit card spend, including the 9x bonus RDMs earned by Executive cardolders, will post to AA.com after statement closing.
2a. If I'm approved for an AA credit card, how long will it take for my "AA Cardholder" status to be updated on the Book AA Hotels website?
YMMV. Reports here have varied from 1 day to several weeks. Citi appears to be faster than Barclay's.

3. What is the max LPs for a booking?
You can earn up to 15,000 LPs max per booking. During the checkout process you will be offered an opportunity purchase additional miles (aka "boost"), but boost miles only add RDM to your earnings, not LPs.

4. What hotels earn miles?
Since July 2023, all hotels on AAdvantage Hotels earn miles. The total will be listed on the search page and you can sort results to find the highest earning hotel for your particular journey parameters.

5. Can I earn miles booking for someone else?
Since July 2023, the booking name must match the name of the AAdvantage account attached to the AAdvantage Hotel account to earn miles. This is further specified in the T&C.

6. Are points awarded based on check-in or check-out date?
Check-in date.

7. How quickly do points post?
Expect points to post approximately 2 weeks after check-out. If points have not posted within a month, contact AAdvantage Hotels customer support.

8. I'm having an issue with my booking. Who should I contact?
If it is an issue regarding the property directly, contact the hotel you've booked with. If the issue is with points or booking, contact AAdvantage Hotels/Booking.com. If a bonus earning has not been properly applied, contact AAdvantage Customer Service. If an issue requires escalation, contact Booking.com through the following channel: [email protected].

9. Will I earn hotel points or get hotel elite benefits in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit. Since a hotel room booked thru RM/AA hotels is a 3rd party booking, most hotel stay programs exclude giving any credits or benefit for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise. You can ask the hotel to add your hotel membership number to your reservation at some point such as before your stay or in person once you arrive, but be prepared for a firm "No."



WARNING: ALL INFORMATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD REFLECTS THE PROGRAM AS IT EXISTED AS OF 7/13/23. THIS INFORMATION IS HERE PURELY FOR THOSE WITH EXISTING BOOKINGS. IF YOU HAVE QUERIES ABOUT THE CURRENT PROGRAM, PLEASE SCROLL UP.

This Wiki will be built out over time. To begin, we are going to cover a list of the most frequently asked questions in this thread. Over time, we expect to add to this guide with official information from Booking and/or AA, as well as guides on how to best optimise your earning on these wonderful platforms.

1a. Do the points earned on RM/BAAH count towards my annual qualification as Loyalty Points (LPs)?
Yes - the points earned for your booking, as well as the paid multiplier points, are both referred to (and post as) "base miles". This means they count towards your annual status progression.

1b. Which hotels on RM/BAAH earn Loyalty Points?
For RocketMiles, this is easy: once you have selected AA as your frequent flyer program, all hotels that show up in the search results will earn LPs.
The BookAAHotels interface is more complicated -- some hotels that show up in the search results will not earn LPs. LP-earning hotels will have a banner in the search results saying "Earn XX,XXX Base Miles"; no banner means no LPs. Also, before checking out make sure that the "Price Summary" states how many Base Miles (LPs) will be earned after your stay. If no base mile earnings are indicated, you may have
accidentally toggled over to the regular Booking.com site, where you will not earn LPs.

2. Do points post quickly after check out?
Forum Experience: For pre-paid stays, reported posting times have varied between several days after checkout and several weeks. Post-paid stays can take up to 8 weeks to post, as their posting is dependent on communication between the hotel and Booking.com/RM/BAAH.
What BAAH and RM say: For BAAH --
"3-4 weeks". For RM -- "typically within 2 weeks after your stay is completed"" or 6-8 weeks if made through Booking.com

3. For what date will the points for a hotel stay count? If I need points by Feb 28, when should I stay at a hotel?
Forum Experience: As of February 2023, RocketMiles.com appears to post stays on AA as the date of check-out. BookAAHotels, however, appears to post stays as of the date of check-in. So if one is looking to lock in miles for February to count for the qualification period, ensure that your check-out is before the 28th of February and that your stay is pre-paid. This way you are assured of your points posting, regardless of platform, and counting towards qualification before your status drops after March ends.
Per AA.com: "Purchases made with your AAdvantage credit card will count based on the date the activity posts to your AAdvantage account. All other flight and partner transactions will count based on the activity date of the flight or other transaction." (emphasis added). See Aadvantage FAQs linked
here

4. I cannot check-out on RocketMiles - help!
First of all, this isn't a question. Second of all, don't fret. There are at least two class of processing problems known on the RM platform. To solve the majority of them, follow these diagnostic pathways:

0. Clear your cache, disable ....... and JS-script blocking software, and turn off your VPN.
1. Try again with the desired credit card but dont fill out any of the optional information on the address section, only whats required.
There is a known system with how they handle this info.
1a. Do as above but use your full zip code (this means the 5 required digits and the trailing 4 digits). You can look up your full ZIP here.
2. Push it all the way to the dev team by contacting support via phone. The agent will put you on hold while they reset part of their system.
3. Use another card and keep trying the first card on subsequent purchases until it works again.

If none of the above work, your problem may be related to your account/card being blocked by Booking.com.
To alleviate this, contact [email protected]

While this may not work to correct checkout issues on both sites, you should at least now be able to use RM.

5. My stays haven't posted and it has been well past one week (for pre-paids) or eight weeks (for post-paids)!
Call the phone number for RM/BAAH and ask for a manager who can change the status on your stays to approved. Every legitimate stay should then be caught in the next cycle. You may receive duplicate emails about previous stays which already posted; sadly, you will not get double miles but this is a positive sign that your oustanding stays have been successfully processed.

6. How many cents per mile is a good rate?
Ultimately this is up to you. However, at the moment, it appears that RM/BAAH have a floor on their miles at around 2.15 cents per mile. The general consensus on FT seems to be that if you can secure a hotel at 2.5 cents per mile, you have done well.

7. Do I need to stay at a hotel to get points?
As long as it is a pre-paid stay, you will receive the points regardless of your presence at the hotel.

8. Will I have to pay the check-in resort fee if I "no show" the stay?
We only have one report of this happening; however, it is not standard practice for RTI (Booking.com) to pass pre-paid credit card details to the stays, so as-of-now the forum is skeptical of this report without further information.

9. Do I get more miles for selecting a better room?
Unfortunately not. The miles are set on a per-location basis; the only way to get more points is to pay for the multiplier/bonus points. Any more expensive rooms will simply mean you're paying more per-mile on your stay.

10. What is the best way to contact the two sites?
E-mail is always the first line of defense. If you fail to get a response within 48 hours (unless this is extremely time sensitive - then call first) then proceed to the phone line. Do note that many of the agents are extremely new or unfamiliar with certain aspects of the program, so be judicious in utilizing your two best friends: the manager and HUACA (hang up and call again).

11. Why can't I contact AA if I have issues?
They don't run the sites. Booking.com does. If you are having a REAL issue (that is, not that your miles didnt post 15 minutes after checkout, but a technical problem, etc.) a recommended point of contact is
[email protected].

12. How do I view only the hotels that award miles on BAAH?
You can't.

13. How do I sort hotels by most points awarded on BAAH?
You can't.

14. How can I see the total stay cost on BAAH on the search screen (as on RM)?
You can't.

15. So then why should I use BAAH?
You shouldn't.

OK, this is a bit of a lie. It is often the occasion that BAAH will offer a slightly higher mileage reward or a hotel that isn't present on RM. Most users will find their target hotel on RM and then do a final sanity check on BAAH to make sure they aren't ignoring a better deal. We certainly recommend this until the UI/UX experience on BAAH is improved.

Also (new in 2023) BAAH is a "select partner" that benefits from LP bonuses (20% for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). RM is not a "select partner" so no bonus LP will be awarded. Note that the bonus is LP only (no bonus RDM are awarded). Although there as some data points with members receiving LP bonuses for the actual stay that put them over the bonus level, AA's official response has been that you'll only receive the bonus LPs for stays completed after you achieve the new bonus level.

16. Can I book a room for someone else but still get the miles in my account?
Yes, if you book through RM. No, if you book through BAAH.

Also, both RM and BAAH will let you book multiple rooms under a single reservation, but the rooms will all be non-refundable. (Booking a single room shows refundable options.)

17. Which year will my LPs count for if I check in a hotel in February but check out in March?
RM stays have their posting date effective the check OUT date.
BAAH stays have their posting date effective the check IN date.
Given the LP program is new for 2022, we assume AA will treat hotel bookings from BAAH and RM the same as a flight taken on Feb 28: LPs will count effective for the date of the posting from RM or BAAH, not the date your account actually gets miles added. Will be updated in March once we have reports

18. Will I earn points in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru RM or BAAH?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit, but it's a 3rd party booking, so most hotel stay programs exclude earning for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise.




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Old Aug 29, 2023, 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by brp
Actually, what you posted seems, unfortunately, to support exactly what AA CS said. Looking at your bracketed points:

The earning happens based on activity date.
The status qualification happens based on post date for the activity.

So, as JJeffrey said, even this seems to suggest both having and eating cake. I'd still push back as this seems unreasonable, but it does seem to be here.

Cheers.
not sure they are following their own rules. In my case, I was already sitting at 123k LPs when my check in date arrived for my last stay. My LPs just posted today and I only got the 20% bonus. I was clearly above the required 100k before the activity date and posting date, so not sure why I only got the 20%. Guess Ill find out when I call them later today.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by Nuttz4Sports
not sure they are following their own rules. In my case, I was already sitting at 123k LPs when my check in date arrived for my last stay. My LPs just posted today and I only got the 20% bonus. I was clearly above the required 100k before the activity date and posting date, so not sure why I only got the 20%. Guess Ill find out when I call them later today.
If it helps while explaining the situation to the agent, the promotion code is listed as Promotion code: XLP20 on my "Promotions" page.
They still owe me a 30% bonus on 3900 miles (not a huge amount) that I've been trying to collect since the beginning of August. I called again last week, and they said my account should be updated this week, as there was a time period that bonuses were not properly applied.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Nuttz4Sports
not sure they are following their own rules. In my case, I was already sitting at 123k LPs when my check in date arrived for my last stay. My LPs just posted today and I only got the 20% bonus. I was clearly above the required 100k before the activity date and posting date, so not sure why I only got the 20%. Guess Ill find out when I call them later today.
In this case it looks like a clear error on their part. I was just talking about the relative timing of eligibility and earning. Their explanation listed above in email seems to match the arcane rules posted by ZenFlyer .

Expecting them to actually follow what they document may be asking a bit much

Cheers.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 6:02 pm
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I have never used the AA hotels site before. In June I booked a 9-night stay at the Grandview in Las Vegas for the second week of September; I paid a prince's ransom (OK, just under $300 a night for a hotel that would usually cost $150) and will get 65K loyalty points.

I went to the AA hotels site today to see if rates had changed or possibly to change my dates, and I couldn't find the hotel at all. I also tried some dates in December, in case my current dates happened to be sold out. Still nothing.

Do hotels come and go?

I assume I'll still get my LP's even though they're no longer giving them.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 6:39 pm
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1,000 bonus but no 30%


I stayed at my first hotel booked using AA and I was awarded the mileage and a 1,000 bonus for my first booking but I did not receive the 30% bonus as I crossed the 100k by butt in actual seat and credit card spend. I thought it might just be they used 20% number but I crossed the 100k threshold 2 weeks prior but this is the only hotel stay and I dont see a separate 1,000 point bonus. Should I ask for the 30% or does the 1,000 bonus wipe that out? I have no clue where the 60 miles came from? Appreciate the wisdom from the group.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by twistfly
I stayed at my first hotel booked using AA and I was awarded the mileage and a 1,000 bonus for my first booking but I did not receive the 30% bonus as I crossed the 100k by butt in actual seat and credit card spend. I thought it might just be they used 20% number but I crossed the 100k threshold 2 weeks prior but this is the only hotel stay and I dont see a separate 1,000 point bonus. Should I ask for the 30% or does the 1,000 bonus wipe that out? I have no clue where the 60 miles came from? Appreciate the wisdom from the group.
6360 = 5300 x 1.2. So they gave you the 20% bonus on the 5300 base miles. The mileage base is correct, but it seems it should have been 6890 for 30%.

Cheers.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
I have never used the AA hotels site before. In June I booked a 9-night stay at the Grandview in Las Vegas for the second week of September; I paid a prince's ransom (OK, just under $300 a night for a hotel that would usually cost $150) and will get 65K loyalty points.

I went to the AA hotels site today to see if rates had changed or possibly to change my dates, and I couldn't find the hotel at all. I also tried some dates in December, in case my current dates happened to be sold out. Still nothing.

Do hotels come and go?

I assume I'll still get my LP's even though they're no longer giving them.
I would call your hotel directly, just to confirm they have your reservation. To make sure nothing else is going on.

At least six hotels in the Caribbean I look at frequently have disappeared from AAH in the past couple weeks from September on. They did last year around this time also, on the RM site. All of them eventually came back at some point. Most were back in a 1-4 months.

There's reasons I can guess for that happening in the Caribbean markets. But they wouldn't apply to a Las Vegas hotel though.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 7:25 pm
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I would call your hotel directly, just to confirm they have your reservation. To make sure nothing else is going on.

At least six hotels in the Caribbean I look at frequently have disappeared from AAH in the past couple weeks from September on. They did last year around this time also, on the RM site. All of them eventually came back at some point. Most were back in a 1-4 months.

There's reasons I can guess for that happening in the Caribbean markets. But they wouldn't apply to a Las Vegas hotel though.
I think the hotels go away when they don't want to pay the commissions that RM charges. Existing reservations should be fine. But calling to confirm a reservation can't hurt.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
I think the hotels go away when they don't want to pay the commissions that RM charges. Existing reservations should be fine. But calling to confirm a reservation can't hurt.
Yeah, that's what I figure is happening with the Caribbean properties. Alot of these places close down in Sept-Oct and want to fill as much as they can for high season without competition from the booking engines and cutting them in. Then they open it back it in Dec or Jan to fill the holes.

I forgot it happened last year and might've gotten ahead of some bookings if I'd thought about it. Feb 29th is coming fast.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
I have never used the AA hotels site before. In June I booked a 9-night stay at the Grandview in Las Vegas for the second week of September; I paid a prince's ransom (OK, just under $300 a night for a hotel that would usually cost $150) and will get 65K loyalty points.

I went to the AA hotels site today to see if rates had changed or possibly to change my dates, and I couldn't find the hotel at all. I also tried some dates in December, in case my current dates happened to be sold out. Still nothing.

Do hotels come and go?

I assume I'll still get my LP's even though they're no longer giving them.
Other users have reported that bookings under the "old" BAAH have been posting and credited as they were originally booked, and I don't recall seeing any reports otherwise.

After your stay, I would appreciate it if you would report a data point on this thread indicating if you did indeed receive all expected LP's, and if there were any problems.

There are some of us [I'm not sure how many] that still have future bookings under the old system. I, for one, would be keenly interested in how things are going.

Thanks.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by williamc
Other users have reported that bookings under the "old" BAAH have been posting and credited as they were originally booked, and I don't recall seeing any reports otherwise.

After your stay, I would appreciate it if you would report a data point on this thread indicating if you did indeed receive all expected LP's, and if there were any problems.

There are some of us [I'm not sure how many] that still have future bookings under the old system. I, for one, would be keenly interested in how things are going.

Thanks.
Do I correctly understand that:
a) Hotels do come and go from participation; and
b) There has been a fundamental change in the BAAH site?
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
Do I correctly understand that:
a) Hotels do come and go from participation; and
b) There has been a fundamental change in the BAAH site?
bAAh is gone. It redirects to aadvantagehotels which is just a skin for rocketmiles. There's a 15k cap per stay and "boost" miles are bonus miles (RDM only). So you only get LP for the base miles.

And yes, hotels definitely come and go.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by williamc
Other users have reported that bookings under the "old" BAAH have been posting and credited as they were originally booked, and I don't recall seeing any reports otherwise.
I reported my data point of two separate stays under BAAH, including a booking made hours before the old BAAH site shut down. Both stays posted correctly with all of the bonus miles counting as LPs.
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Old Aug 30, 2023, 4:19 am
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Booked a Bali stay for 8/21-8/23, it posted with my 20% bonus on 8/30. Glad to see the 1 week posting time is consistent.
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Old Aug 30, 2023, 4:26 am
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Experiencing a massive number of bait & switches on AAH this morning.

For example, hotels showing as 1200 miles/night when not logged in, to 500 miles/night when logged in. Other properties showing 10K miles/night dropping to 8K after logging in.

It's not every property, but it's not a 1 off either. Easily 10-15 in the past hour, just searching two destinations.

My browser clears every time I shut it, and I'm looking these up separately, so it's not a cache or cookies issue.

If I have time after a Starbucks run I'll post some screenshoots.

Grrrr.... this has been happening on and off for weeks & I'm finally annoyed enough this morning to post about it. The abuse was at a new level/volume, almost systemic.
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