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Welcome to the Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels (ne BookAAHotels) Official Thread & Wiki!
reflecting July 2023 program changes

AAdvantage Hotels Customer Support phone # (844) 801-6778 and email is [email protected]

Posting times per the AA Hotels Platform FAQ: "Rewards typically post between 3-4 weeks after your stay is completed with the transaction date reflecting your check-in date. If booked through one of our suppliers that provide Pay Later rates (pay upon check-in), the rewards typically post within 4 6 weeks after your stay is completed."

Posting times per FT user experience: Varies greatly, and cyclically through the year, between several days to 6 weeks after checkout. Within 2 weeks after checkout is arguably "average" but YMMV greatly. Notwithstanding whatever wait you might have, the points will eventually post.

0. Why should I use RocketMiles over AAdvantage Hotels?
You shouldn't. There are no advantages to doing so unless you truly have no superior booking option. AAdvantage Hotels, now being on the same platform, is strictly better if your goal is AA LPs or AA RDM. (Note: RocketMiles, the engine for AAdvantage Hotels, is owned by Booking Holdings: https://about.rocketmiles.com/how-it-works who also owns Priceline, Agoda, Kayak, etc.)

1. Do base miles earned on AAdvantage Hotels count towards Loyalty Point earnings/status?
Yes - but any boost miles (miles purchased during checkout) only count as redeemable miles.

2. How can I maximize my AA earnings?

a. via AAHotels Customers who have AAdvantage elite status, and/or have any AA co-branded credit card earn significantly more LPs/RDMs per reservation. Customers who have either AA status OR an AA credit card will earn up to 5x more LPs/RDMs than the normal rate, while customers who have both AA status AND an AA credit card will earn up to 10x LPs/RDMs more than the normal rate (up to 15,000 LP max). The extra LP/RDM earnings for being an AA card holder apply whether or not you charge the reservation to your AA credit card. The total LPs/RDMs to be earned through AAHotels are reflected on your reservation and post to AA.com after your hotel stay, see questions 6 and 7 below.

b. via AA Loyalty Point Rewards Purchases made via AAHotels (and other "select partners") benefit from "Loyalty Point Reward" bonuses given to AAdvantage Members who reach certain LP thresholds (20% bonus for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). Further information on LP Reward bonuses here and on this FT thread. LP Reward bonuses do not generate additional RDMs. LP Reward bonuses will be added automatically to your total LP earnings when your hotel stay posts to AA.com, see questions 6 and 7 below.

c. via AA co-branded credit card You will also earn 1 LP and (generally) 1 RDM for every dollar charged to an AA credit card, as you would for any purchase. AA Hotels stays are not considered eligible AA purchases for purposes of increased miles earnings on AA credit cards. However, holders of the Citi AA Executive Mastercard will earn an additional 9x RDM per dollar spent on AAHotels (for a total of 10 RDM per dollar). LPs and RDMs earned by credit card spend, including the 9x bonus RDMs earned by Executive cardolders, will post to AA.com after statement closing.
2a. If I'm approved for an AA credit card, how long will it take for my "AA Cardholder" status to be updated on the Book AA Hotels website?
YMMV. Reports here have varied from 1 day to several weeks. Citi appears to be faster than Barclay's.

3. What is the max LPs for a booking?
You can earn up to 15,000 LPs max per booking. During the checkout process you will be offered an opportunity purchase additional miles (aka "boost"), but boost miles only add RDM to your earnings, not LPs.

4. What hotels earn miles?
Since July 2023, all hotels on AAdvantage Hotels earn miles. The total will be listed on the search page and you can sort results to find the highest earning hotel for your particular journey parameters.

5. Can I earn miles booking for someone else?
Since July 2023, the booking name must match the name of the AAdvantage account attached to the AAdvantage Hotel account to earn miles. This is further specified in the T&C.

6. Are points awarded based on check-in or check-out date?
Check-in date.

7. How quickly do points post?
Expect points to post approximately 2 weeks after check-out. If points have not posted within a month, contact AAdvantage Hotels customer support.

8. I'm having an issue with my booking. Who should I contact?
If it is an issue regarding the property directly, contact the hotel you've booked with. If the issue is with points or booking, contact AAdvantage Hotels/Booking.com. If a bonus earning has not been properly applied, contact AAdvantage Customer Service. If an issue requires escalation, contact Booking.com through the following channel: [email protected].

9. Will I earn hotel points or get hotel elite benefits in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit. Since a hotel room booked thru RM/AA hotels is a 3rd party booking, most hotel stay programs exclude giving any credits or benefit for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise. You can ask the hotel to add your hotel membership number to your reservation at some point such as before your stay or in person once you arrive, but be prepared for a firm "No."



WARNING: ALL INFORMATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD REFLECTS THE PROGRAM AS IT EXISTED AS OF 7/13/23. THIS INFORMATION IS HERE PURELY FOR THOSE WITH EXISTING BOOKINGS. IF YOU HAVE QUERIES ABOUT THE CURRENT PROGRAM, PLEASE SCROLL UP.

This Wiki will be built out over time. To begin, we are going to cover a list of the most frequently asked questions in this thread. Over time, we expect to add to this guide with official information from Booking and/or AA, as well as guides on how to best optimise your earning on these wonderful platforms.

1a. Do the points earned on RM/BAAH count towards my annual qualification as Loyalty Points (LPs)?
Yes - the points earned for your booking, as well as the paid multiplier points, are both referred to (and post as) "base miles". This means they count towards your annual status progression.

1b. Which hotels on RM/BAAH earn Loyalty Points?
For RocketMiles, this is easy: once you have selected AA as your frequent flyer program, all hotels that show up in the search results will earn LPs.
The BookAAHotels interface is more complicated -- some hotels that show up in the search results will not earn LPs. LP-earning hotels will have a banner in the search results saying "Earn XX,XXX Base Miles"; no banner means no LPs. Also, before checking out make sure that the "Price Summary" states how many Base Miles (LPs) will be earned after your stay. If no base mile earnings are indicated, you may have
accidentally toggled over to the regular Booking.com site, where you will not earn LPs.

2. Do points post quickly after check out?
Forum Experience: For pre-paid stays, reported posting times have varied between several days after checkout and several weeks. Post-paid stays can take up to 8 weeks to post, as their posting is dependent on communication between the hotel and Booking.com/RM/BAAH.
What BAAH and RM say: For BAAH --
"3-4 weeks". For RM -- "typically within 2 weeks after your stay is completed"" or 6-8 weeks if made through Booking.com

3. For what date will the points for a hotel stay count? If I need points by Feb 28, when should I stay at a hotel?
Forum Experience: As of February 2023, RocketMiles.com appears to post stays on AA as the date of check-out. BookAAHotels, however, appears to post stays as of the date of check-in. So if one is looking to lock in miles for February to count for the qualification period, ensure that your check-out is before the 28th of February and that your stay is pre-paid. This way you are assured of your points posting, regardless of platform, and counting towards qualification before your status drops after March ends.
Per AA.com: "Purchases made with your AAdvantage credit card will count based on the date the activity posts to your AAdvantage account. All other flight and partner transactions will count based on the activity date of the flight or other transaction." (emphasis added). See Aadvantage FAQs linked
here

4. I cannot check-out on RocketMiles - help!
First of all, this isn't a question. Second of all, don't fret. There are at least two class of processing problems known on the RM platform. To solve the majority of them, follow these diagnostic pathways:

0. Clear your cache, disable ....... and JS-script blocking software, and turn off your VPN.
1. Try again with the desired credit card but dont fill out any of the optional information on the address section, only whats required.
There is a known system with how they handle this info.
1a. Do as above but use your full zip code (this means the 5 required digits and the trailing 4 digits). You can look up your full ZIP here.
2. Push it all the way to the dev team by contacting support via phone. The agent will put you on hold while they reset part of their system.
3. Use another card and keep trying the first card on subsequent purchases until it works again.

If none of the above work, your problem may be related to your account/card being blocked by Booking.com.
To alleviate this, contact [email protected]

While this may not work to correct checkout issues on both sites, you should at least now be able to use RM.

5. My stays haven't posted and it has been well past one week (for pre-paids) or eight weeks (for post-paids)!
Call the phone number for RM/BAAH and ask for a manager who can change the status on your stays to approved. Every legitimate stay should then be caught in the next cycle. You may receive duplicate emails about previous stays which already posted; sadly, you will not get double miles but this is a positive sign that your oustanding stays have been successfully processed.

6. How many cents per mile is a good rate?
Ultimately this is up to you. However, at the moment, it appears that RM/BAAH have a floor on their miles at around 2.15 cents per mile. The general consensus on FT seems to be that if you can secure a hotel at 2.5 cents per mile, you have done well.

7. Do I need to stay at a hotel to get points?
As long as it is a pre-paid stay, you will receive the points regardless of your presence at the hotel.

8. Will I have to pay the check-in resort fee if I "no show" the stay?
We only have one report of this happening; however, it is not standard practice for RTI (Booking.com) to pass pre-paid credit card details to the stays, so as-of-now the forum is skeptical of this report without further information.

9. Do I get more miles for selecting a better room?
Unfortunately not. The miles are set on a per-location basis; the only way to get more points is to pay for the multiplier/bonus points. Any more expensive rooms will simply mean you're paying more per-mile on your stay.

10. What is the best way to contact the two sites?
E-mail is always the first line of defense. If you fail to get a response within 48 hours (unless this is extremely time sensitive - then call first) then proceed to the phone line. Do note that many of the agents are extremely new or unfamiliar with certain aspects of the program, so be judicious in utilizing your two best friends: the manager and HUACA (hang up and call again).

11. Why can't I contact AA if I have issues?
They don't run the sites. Booking.com does. If you are having a REAL issue (that is, not that your miles didnt post 15 minutes after checkout, but a technical problem, etc.) a recommended point of contact is
[email protected].

12. How do I view only the hotels that award miles on BAAH?
You can't.

13. How do I sort hotels by most points awarded on BAAH?
You can't.

14. How can I see the total stay cost on BAAH on the search screen (as on RM)?
You can't.

15. So then why should I use BAAH?
You shouldn't.

OK, this is a bit of a lie. It is often the occasion that BAAH will offer a slightly higher mileage reward or a hotel that isn't present on RM. Most users will find their target hotel on RM and then do a final sanity check on BAAH to make sure they aren't ignoring a better deal. We certainly recommend this until the UI/UX experience on BAAH is improved.

Also (new in 2023) BAAH is a "select partner" that benefits from LP bonuses (20% for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). RM is not a "select partner" so no bonus LP will be awarded. Note that the bonus is LP only (no bonus RDM are awarded). Although there as some data points with members receiving LP bonuses for the actual stay that put them over the bonus level, AA's official response has been that you'll only receive the bonus LPs for stays completed after you achieve the new bonus level.

16. Can I book a room for someone else but still get the miles in my account?
Yes, if you book through RM. No, if you book through BAAH.

Also, both RM and BAAH will let you book multiple rooms under a single reservation, but the rooms will all be non-refundable. (Booking a single room shows refundable options.)

17. Which year will my LPs count for if I check in a hotel in February but check out in March?
RM stays have their posting date effective the check OUT date.
BAAH stays have their posting date effective the check IN date.
Given the LP program is new for 2022, we assume AA will treat hotel bookings from BAAH and RM the same as a flight taken on Feb 28: LPs will count effective for the date of the posting from RM or BAAH, not the date your account actually gets miles added. Will be updated in March once we have reports

18. Will I earn points in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru RM or BAAH?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit, but it's a 3rd party booking, so most hotel stay programs exclude earning for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise.




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Old Aug 27, 2023, 12:54 am
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I feel like the website still needs some work. Tried to book a stay tonight in Orlando and kept getting an error about the availability changing between when I selected the room and clicked book but it still showed when I searched again.
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Old Aug 27, 2023, 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by 0xBA1EE7ED
I feel like the website still needs some work. Tried to book a stay tonight in Orlando and kept getting an error about the availability changing between when I selected the room and clicked book but it still showed when I searched again.
Had this happen multiple times yesterday when searching the Bahamas. The unavailable bookings continued to be available for useless clicks all day.

As frustrating as it is, I'd rather have it happen at this stage of the search, than after inputting cc information. After one very bad experience with BAAH, I live in fear of my credit being uselessly tied up for days with every transaction and say a silent prayer now before the final click.
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Old Aug 27, 2023, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by cmtlatitudes
Had this happen multiple times yesterday when searching the Bahamas. The unavailable bookings continued to be available for useless clicks all day.

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I had this happen when I looked at bookings a few weeks back in Vegas. Only a couple of hotels. Likely a mismatch between the website and backend database on something that had low availability to begin with.

Really should be fixed but, as long as only a few locations have this behavior, I can live with it.

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Old Aug 27, 2023, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by cmtlatitudes
Had this happen multiple times yesterday when searching the Bahamas. The unavailable bookings continued to be available for useless clicks all day.

As frustrating as it is, I'd rather have it happen at this stage of the search, than after inputting cc information. After one very bad experience with BAAH, I live in fear of my credit being uselessly tied up for days with every transaction and say a silent prayer now before the final click.
I should have clarified, it was fine right up until after I entered my CC info and pressed submit, then gave me an error. Upon further searches the hotel remained the same, and gave me the error several times for different rooms after entering payment info.
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Old Aug 27, 2023, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by 0xBA1EE7ED
I feel like the website still needs some work.
Sir/Ma'am: This is a Wendy's.
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Old Aug 27, 2023, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by 0xBA1EE7ED
I should have clarified, it was fine right up until after I entered my CC info and pressed submit, then gave me an error. Upon further searches the hotel remained the same, and gave me the error several times for different rooms after entering payment info.
Ugh, sorry to hear this. Were you hit with charges each time & now waiting on reversals for all of them?
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Old Aug 28, 2023, 12:15 pm
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Thumbs down

So I think I have the final say from AAdvantage Customer Service (emailing back/forth): "We use real time to determine the thresholds to start earning the bonuses but we use the activity date to determine eligibility to earn the bonus."

The line I quoted from them actually doesn't make entire sense on its own, but from my entire chain of questions to them my understanding is:
They had confirmed my old-style BAAH stay date on 7/18, but stated for purposes of LP crediting (and thus crossing 100k LP threshold), the date of 7/27 when it was posted to my Aadvantage account is the important date.
Thus, on their system my 30% LP BAAH hotel/other purchasing activity bonus activated appropriately the next day on 7/28.

For purposes of 30% LP bonus applying to subsequent stays, my 7/26 old BAAH stay did not qualify because they use the check-in date of that stay to determine eligibility for LP bonus; they do not use the date of when my 7/26 stay credited to my account, which was actually 8/1)
I feel like I lose out about ~1k LP from not having higher bonus, but also lesson learned- not gonna book lotta AA hotel stays in future (and definitely not any this close together).
Originally Posted by wutlol
Focus on getting your stays corrected one by one, in chronological order.

It will be easier to argue for the 30% bonus once you have a confirmed date of having passed 100k and incontestably show youre owed the 10% extra miles.
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Old Aug 28, 2023, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by xtremegene
So I think I have the final say from AAdvantage Customer Service (emailing back/forth): "We use real time to determine the thresholds to start earning the bonuses but we use the activity date to determine eligibility to earn the bonus."

The line I quoted from them actually doesn't make entire sense on its own, but from my entire chain of questions to them my understanding is:
They had confirmed my old-style BAAH stay date on 7/18, but stated for purposes of LP crediting (and thus crossing 100k LP threshold), the date of 7/27 when it was posted to my Aadvantage account is the important date.
Thus, on their system my 30% LP BAAH hotel/other purchasing activity bonus activated appropriately the next day on 7/28.

For purposes of 30% LP bonus applying to subsequent stays, my 7/26 old BAAH stay did not qualify because they use the check-in date of that stay to determine eligibility for LP bonus; they do not use the date of when my 7/26 stay credited to my account, which was actually 8/1)
I feel like I lose out about ~1k LP from not having higher bonus, but also lesson learned- not gonna book lotta AA hotel stays in future (and definitely not any this close together).
That is complete crap IMO, AA is trying to have its cake and eat it too.

On one hand they're saying it's the actual date that the activity posts to our accounts (a week after the check-in date) that matters as to when their system updates and you start getting the bonuses.

But then on the other hand they're saying no no, because your check-in date was before we're not going to give you the bonus on that one either.

They need to base everything on the posting date in your AA account as that is the only date that any of us can see.

FWIW I have a few BAAH stays from June right around the time I crossed the 20%/30% thresholds that of course didn't post the bonuses correctly, about to take the exact same fight to AAdvantage Customer Service.
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Old Aug 28, 2023, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
That is complete crap IMO, AA is trying to have its cake and eat it too.


They need to base everything on the posting date in your AA account as that is the only date that any of us can see.
I informed them/asked them that on my first two emails as well especially as that was my prior understanding/what had been posted before but....
*shrug*
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Old Aug 28, 2023, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
That is complete crap IMO, AA is trying to have its cake and eat it too.

On one hand they're saying it's the actual date that the activity posts to our accounts (a week after the check-in date) that matters as to when their system updates and you start getting the bonuses.

But then on the other hand they're saying no no, because your check-in date was before we're not going to give you the bonus on that one either.

They need to base everything on the posting date in your AA account as that is the only date that any of us can see.

FWIW I have a few BAAH stays from June right around the time I crossed the 20%/30% thresholds that of course didn't post the bonuses correctly, about to take the exact same fight to AAdvantage Customer Service.
We may run afoul of this as well. The activity that will put us over 100K is an AS flight on 9/9. And we have a stay on 9/13-9/14. It seems that, depending upon just when the stay posts will determine whether we get 30% or 40%.

As usually posts flights on Tuesday night. And it's usually the next Tuesday (unless the flight is on Tuesday, then it skips a week). So, a 9/9 flight likely posts on, yup, 9/13- our check-in day.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out and whether I also have to bring this fight to them.

Cheers.
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Old Aug 28, 2023, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by xtremegene
So I think I have the final say from AAdvantage Customer Service (emailing back/forth): "We use real time to determine the thresholds to start earning the bonuses but we use the activity date to determine eligibility to earn the bonus."
Originally Posted by JJeffrey
That is complete crap IMO, AA is trying to have its cake and eat it too.
Ugh. I'm having a hard time following the AA logic here, so I'm not sure if the following will be helfpul in pushing back with Customer Service, but fwiw copied below are two potentially relevant excerpts from the Loyalty Reward Points "Terms and Conditions" related to the timing of LP earning for activity other than flights, and earning the 20% and 30% bonuses, respectively:


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Old Aug 28, 2023, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ZenFlyer
Ugh. I'm having a hard time following the AA logic here, so I'm not sure if the following will be helfpul in pushing back with Customer Service, but fwiw copied below are two potentially relevant excerpts from the Loyalty Reward Points "Terms and Conditions" related to the timing of LP earning for activity other than flights, and earning the 20% and 30% bonuses, respectively:


Actually, what you posted seems, unfortunately, to support exactly what AA CS said. Looking at your bracketed points:

The earning happens based on activity date.
The status qualification happens based on post date for the activity.

So, as JJeffrey said, even this seems to suggest both having and eating cake. I'd still push back as this seems unreasonable, but it does seem to be here.

Cheers.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 1:39 am
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Originally Posted by xtremegene
So I think I have the final say from AAdvantage Customer Service (emailing back/forth): "We use real time to determine the thresholds to start earning the bonuses but we use the activity date to determine eligibility to earn the bonus."

The line I quoted from them actually doesn't make entire sense on its own, but from my entire chain of questions to them my understanding is:
They had confirmed my old-style BAAH stay date on 7/18, but stated for purposes of LP crediting (and thus crossing 100k LP threshold), the date of 7/27 when it was posted to my Aadvantage account is the important date.
Thus, on their system my 30% LP BAAH hotel/other purchasing activity bonus activated appropriately the next day on 7/28.

For purposes of 30% LP bonus applying to subsequent stays, my 7/26 old BAAH stay did not qualify because they use the check-in date of that stay to determine eligibility for LP bonus; they do not use the date of when my 7/26 stay credited to my account, which was actually 8/1)
I feel like I lose out about ~1k LP from not having higher bonus, but also lesson learned- not gonna book lotta AA hotel stays in future (and definitely not any this close together).
Hmm, this explanation probably makes sense as to why my stays close to hitting the 20% threshold didnt get the bonus.
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by 355F1
Againnnnnnnn, try booking it with a different CC and let us know if it works.

I had to do this for a hotel in Bali once....the hotel's website could/would NOT process my Chase Ink VISA Card.....tried 4 times.

Finally tried my Citi Prestige MC and the booking went through.

You came here for advice....and I offered some based on a personal experience.
I appreciate the advice, but it was not the card. They finally fixed the situation and I am able to make reservations again..
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Old Aug 29, 2023, 4:13 am
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I can actually understand why they do it this way - imagine if you had a trip post months back (say January) that would have taken you over the threshold in January. Now you have completely missed your ability to leverage the bonus, as well as created a bunch of additional work for AA in retroactively fixing your postings since then.

I'm not sure either way is frankly ideal...
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