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Welcome to the Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels (ne BookAAHotels) Official Thread & Wiki!
reflecting July 2023 program changes

AAdvantage Hotels Customer Support phone # (844) 801-6778 and email is [email protected]

Posting times per the AA Hotels Platform FAQ: "Rewards typically post between 3-4 weeks after your stay is completed with the transaction date reflecting your check-in date. If booked through one of our suppliers that provide Pay Later rates (pay upon check-in), the rewards typically post within 4 6 weeks after your stay is completed."

Posting times per FT user experience: Varies greatly, and cyclically through the year, between several days to 6 weeks after checkout. Within 2 weeks after checkout is arguably "average" but YMMV greatly. Notwithstanding whatever wait you might have, the points will eventually post.

0. Why should I use RocketMiles over AAdvantage Hotels?
You shouldn't. There are no advantages to doing so unless you truly have no superior booking option. AAdvantage Hotels, now being on the same platform, is strictly better if your goal is AA LPs or AA RDM. (Note: RocketMiles, the engine for AAdvantage Hotels, is owned by Booking Holdings: https://about.rocketmiles.com/how-it-works who also owns Priceline, Agoda, Kayak, etc.)

1. Do base miles earned on AAdvantage Hotels count towards Loyalty Point earnings/status?
Yes - but any boost miles (miles purchased during checkout) only count as redeemable miles.

2. How can I maximize my AA earnings?

a. via AAHotels Customers who have AAdvantage elite status, and/or have any AA co-branded credit card earn significantly more LPs/RDMs per reservation. Customers who have either AA status OR an AA credit card will earn up to 5x more LPs/RDMs than the normal rate, while customers who have both AA status AND an AA credit card will earn up to 10x LPs/RDMs more than the normal rate (up to 15,000 LP max). The extra LP/RDM earnings for being an AA card holder apply whether or not you charge the reservation to your AA credit card. The total LPs/RDMs to be earned through AAHotels are reflected on your reservation and post to AA.com after your hotel stay, see questions 6 and 7 below.

b. via AA Loyalty Point Rewards Purchases made via AAHotels (and other "select partners") benefit from "Loyalty Point Reward" bonuses given to AAdvantage Members who reach certain LP thresholds (20% bonus for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). Further information on LP Reward bonuses here and on this FT thread. LP Reward bonuses do not generate additional RDMs. LP Reward bonuses will be added automatically to your total LP earnings when your hotel stay posts to AA.com, see questions 6 and 7 below.

c. via AA co-branded credit card You will also earn 1 LP and (generally) 1 RDM for every dollar charged to an AA credit card, as you would for any purchase. AA Hotels stays are not considered eligible AA purchases for purposes of increased miles earnings on AA credit cards. However, holders of the Citi AA Executive Mastercard will earn an additional 9x RDM per dollar spent on AAHotels (for a total of 10 RDM per dollar). LPs and RDMs earned by credit card spend, including the 9x bonus RDMs earned by Executive cardolders, will post to AA.com after statement closing.
2a. If I'm approved for an AA credit card, how long will it take for my "AA Cardholder" status to be updated on the Book AA Hotels website?
YMMV. Reports here have varied from 1 day to several weeks. Citi appears to be faster than Barclay's.

3. What is the max LPs for a booking?
You can earn up to 15,000 LPs max per booking. During the checkout process you will be offered an opportunity purchase additional miles (aka "boost"), but boost miles only add RDM to your earnings, not LPs.

4. What hotels earn miles?
Since July 2023, all hotels on AAdvantage Hotels earn miles. The total will be listed on the search page and you can sort results to find the highest earning hotel for your particular journey parameters.

5. Can I earn miles booking for someone else?
Since July 2023, the booking name must match the name of the AAdvantage account attached to the AAdvantage Hotel account to earn miles. This is further specified in the T&C.

6. Are points awarded based on check-in or check-out date?
Check-in date.

7. How quickly do points post?
Expect points to post approximately 2 weeks after check-out. If points have not posted within a month, contact AAdvantage Hotels customer support.

8. I'm having an issue with my booking. Who should I contact?
If it is an issue regarding the property directly, contact the hotel you've booked with. If the issue is with points or booking, contact AAdvantage Hotels/Booking.com. If a bonus earning has not been properly applied, contact AAdvantage Customer Service. If an issue requires escalation, contact Booking.com through the following channel: [email protected].

9. Will I earn hotel points or get hotel elite benefits in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit. Since a hotel room booked thru RM/AA hotels is a 3rd party booking, most hotel stay programs exclude giving any credits or benefit for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise. You can ask the hotel to add your hotel membership number to your reservation at some point such as before your stay or in person once you arrive, but be prepared for a firm "No."



WARNING: ALL INFORMATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD REFLECTS THE PROGRAM AS IT EXISTED AS OF 7/13/23. THIS INFORMATION IS HERE PURELY FOR THOSE WITH EXISTING BOOKINGS. IF YOU HAVE QUERIES ABOUT THE CURRENT PROGRAM, PLEASE SCROLL UP.

This Wiki will be built out over time. To begin, we are going to cover a list of the most frequently asked questions in this thread. Over time, we expect to add to this guide with official information from Booking and/or AA, as well as guides on how to best optimise your earning on these wonderful platforms.

1a. Do the points earned on RM/BAAH count towards my annual qualification as Loyalty Points (LPs)?
Yes - the points earned for your booking, as well as the paid multiplier points, are both referred to (and post as) "base miles". This means they count towards your annual status progression.

1b. Which hotels on RM/BAAH earn Loyalty Points?
For RocketMiles, this is easy: once you have selected AA as your frequent flyer program, all hotels that show up in the search results will earn LPs.
The BookAAHotels interface is more complicated -- some hotels that show up in the search results will not earn LPs. LP-earning hotels will have a banner in the search results saying "Earn XX,XXX Base Miles"; no banner means no LPs. Also, before checking out make sure that the "Price Summary" states how many Base Miles (LPs) will be earned after your stay. If no base mile earnings are indicated, you may have
accidentally toggled over to the regular Booking.com site, where you will not earn LPs.

2. Do points post quickly after check out?
Forum Experience: For pre-paid stays, reported posting times have varied between several days after checkout and several weeks. Post-paid stays can take up to 8 weeks to post, as their posting is dependent on communication between the hotel and Booking.com/RM/BAAH.
What BAAH and RM say: For BAAH --
"3-4 weeks". For RM -- "typically within 2 weeks after your stay is completed"" or 6-8 weeks if made through Booking.com

3. For what date will the points for a hotel stay count? If I need points by Feb 28, when should I stay at a hotel?
Forum Experience: As of February 2023, RocketMiles.com appears to post stays on AA as the date of check-out. BookAAHotels, however, appears to post stays as of the date of check-in. So if one is looking to lock in miles for February to count for the qualification period, ensure that your check-out is before the 28th of February and that your stay is pre-paid. This way you are assured of your points posting, regardless of platform, and counting towards qualification before your status drops after March ends.
Per AA.com: "Purchases made with your AAdvantage credit card will count based on the date the activity posts to your AAdvantage account. All other flight and partner transactions will count based on the activity date of the flight or other transaction." (emphasis added). See Aadvantage FAQs linked
here

4. I cannot check-out on RocketMiles - help!
First of all, this isn't a question. Second of all, don't fret. There are at least two class of processing problems known on the RM platform. To solve the majority of them, follow these diagnostic pathways:

0. Clear your cache, disable ....... and JS-script blocking software, and turn off your VPN.
1. Try again with the desired credit card but dont fill out any of the optional information on the address section, only whats required.
There is a known system with how they handle this info.
1a. Do as above but use your full zip code (this means the 5 required digits and the trailing 4 digits). You can look up your full ZIP here.
2. Push it all the way to the dev team by contacting support via phone. The agent will put you on hold while they reset part of their system.
3. Use another card and keep trying the first card on subsequent purchases until it works again.

If none of the above work, your problem may be related to your account/card being blocked by Booking.com.
To alleviate this, contact [email protected]

While this may not work to correct checkout issues on both sites, you should at least now be able to use RM.

5. My stays haven't posted and it has been well past one week (for pre-paids) or eight weeks (for post-paids)!
Call the phone number for RM/BAAH and ask for a manager who can change the status on your stays to approved. Every legitimate stay should then be caught in the next cycle. You may receive duplicate emails about previous stays which already posted; sadly, you will not get double miles but this is a positive sign that your oustanding stays have been successfully processed.

6. How many cents per mile is a good rate?
Ultimately this is up to you. However, at the moment, it appears that RM/BAAH have a floor on their miles at around 2.15 cents per mile. The general consensus on FT seems to be that if you can secure a hotel at 2.5 cents per mile, you have done well.

7. Do I need to stay at a hotel to get points?
As long as it is a pre-paid stay, you will receive the points regardless of your presence at the hotel.

8. Will I have to pay the check-in resort fee if I "no show" the stay?
We only have one report of this happening; however, it is not standard practice for RTI (Booking.com) to pass pre-paid credit card details to the stays, so as-of-now the forum is skeptical of this report without further information.

9. Do I get more miles for selecting a better room?
Unfortunately not. The miles are set on a per-location basis; the only way to get more points is to pay for the multiplier/bonus points. Any more expensive rooms will simply mean you're paying more per-mile on your stay.

10. What is the best way to contact the two sites?
E-mail is always the first line of defense. If you fail to get a response within 48 hours (unless this is extremely time sensitive - then call first) then proceed to the phone line. Do note that many of the agents are extremely new or unfamiliar with certain aspects of the program, so be judicious in utilizing your two best friends: the manager and HUACA (hang up and call again).

11. Why can't I contact AA if I have issues?
They don't run the sites. Booking.com does. If you are having a REAL issue (that is, not that your miles didnt post 15 minutes after checkout, but a technical problem, etc.) a recommended point of contact is
[email protected].

12. How do I view only the hotels that award miles on BAAH?
You can't.

13. How do I sort hotels by most points awarded on BAAH?
You can't.

14. How can I see the total stay cost on BAAH on the search screen (as on RM)?
You can't.

15. So then why should I use BAAH?
You shouldn't.

OK, this is a bit of a lie. It is often the occasion that BAAH will offer a slightly higher mileage reward or a hotel that isn't present on RM. Most users will find their target hotel on RM and then do a final sanity check on BAAH to make sure they aren't ignoring a better deal. We certainly recommend this until the UI/UX experience on BAAH is improved.

Also (new in 2023) BAAH is a "select partner" that benefits from LP bonuses (20% for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). RM is not a "select partner" so no bonus LP will be awarded. Note that the bonus is LP only (no bonus RDM are awarded). Although there as some data points with members receiving LP bonuses for the actual stay that put them over the bonus level, AA's official response has been that you'll only receive the bonus LPs for stays completed after you achieve the new bonus level.

16. Can I book a room for someone else but still get the miles in my account?
Yes, if you book through RM. No, if you book through BAAH.

Also, both RM and BAAH will let you book multiple rooms under a single reservation, but the rooms will all be non-refundable. (Booking a single room shows refundable options.)

17. Which year will my LPs count for if I check in a hotel in February but check out in March?
RM stays have their posting date effective the check OUT date.
BAAH stays have their posting date effective the check IN date.
Given the LP program is new for 2022, we assume AA will treat hotel bookings from BAAH and RM the same as a flight taken on Feb 28: LPs will count effective for the date of the posting from RM or BAAH, not the date your account actually gets miles added. Will be updated in March once we have reports

18. Will I earn points in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru RM or BAAH?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit, but it's a 3rd party booking, so most hotel stay programs exclude earning for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise.




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Old Feb 1, 2024, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by BMWMOT
2 Questions- I'm about 3K LP's away from Gold (Don't travel much anymore). I have an offer from AA to lock it in for 2024 for $530. If I do a hotel booking for sometime in late Feb that gets me the LP's I need-
1. Will those count toward my 2024 total? I'm concerned that AA's site says it takes 3-4 wks from the time you complete your stay to get the points/miles. That brings us to sometime in March if all goes well. Do they back count if you will as the LP calculator ends the end of Feb. I would need those LP's to go towards my 2024 (end of Feb) total.
2. To confirm, if I make a booking at a local hotel, I do NOT have to check in/stay there to get the LP's? I guess it's a ghost stay?
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Check AA shopping too. If you havent done the Motley Fool offer yet you can get 6700 LP for $100, less if you stack with an Amex offer.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by BMWMOT
2 Questions- I'm about 3K LP's away from Gold (Don't travel much anymore). I have an offer from AA to lock it in for 2024 for $530. If I do a hotel booking for sometime in late Feb that gets me the LP's I need-
ZenFlyer already addressed the hotel questions, but I also wanted to add that you might have other - and perhaps cheaper - options to earn 3K LP. Specifically, have you looked at the AA Shopping portal (FT thread)? A subscription to Motley Fools for $99 (or less) would earn you 6700 LP (and RDM), for example.

Also see

HELP! I need xx Loyalty Points (LPs) by date / EOY - 2023-2024 master thread

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Old Feb 1, 2024, 4:14 pm
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New to using AAdvantage hotels...Can I book a room for my wife under my name if I'm not going to be there? Is there any option to add the second guest's name? And will I still get the EP/CC bonus?
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by AirricK11
New to using AAdvantage hotels...Can I book a room for my wife under my name if I'm not going to be there? Is there any option to add the second guest's name? And will I still get the EP/CC bonus?
Make the reservation under your name as usual. Then, call the hotel the day of arrival and ask the front desk to add your wife's name to the reservation "because she will arrive before I do".
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Make the reservation under your name as usual. Then, call the hotel the day of arrival and ask the front desk to add your wife's name to the reservation "because she will arrive before I do".
Slick. What are the chances this actually works?
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by AirricK11
Slick. What are the chances this actually works?
No idea/experience, but I would guess it very much depends on the property and perhaps even more on the particular front desk agent. In general, AA seems to not want you to do that because they added the rule that the travelers name needs to match the account holders name. Hopefully someone will have data points.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by AirricK11
Slick. What are the chances this actually works?
100% for me so far.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
No idea/experience, but I would guess it very much depends on the property and perhaps even more on the particular front desk agent. In general, AA seems to not want you to do that because they added the rule that the travelers name needs to match the account holders name. Hopefully someone will have data points.
Yes, as I just posted, 100% efficacy for me.

You're not changing the name of the reservation. You're just asking the FD person to add your wife's name, so when she gets there they know it's legit. She will still have to present a credit card in her name and her ID, but that still won't change the name on the reservation.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by fliesdelta
Yes, as I just posted, 100% efficacy for me.

You're not changing the name of the reservation. You're just asking the FD person to add your wife's name, so when she gets there they know it's legit. She will still have to present a credit card in her name and her ID, but that still won't change the name on the reservation.
Yes, I wasnt expecting it to change the reservation, but I was wondering whether hotels might balk at it since they may be used to disallow it so people dont sell their elite benefits or resell nights for the purpose of earning elite nights. I only did this once with Hyatt, many years ago, and they asked me to come to the front desk upon my arrival (but would give my wife a key in the meantime). I was actually legitimately arriving much later, so it wasnt a problem for me to show up later.

How many stays does the 100% represent, and roughly how many different properties?
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
Yes, I wasnt expecting it to change the reservation, but I was wondering whether hotels might balk at it since they may be used to disallow it so people dont sell their elite benefits or resell nights for the purpose of earning elite nights. I only did this once with Hyatt, many years ago, and they asked me to come to the front desk upon my arrival (but would give my wife a key in the meantime). I was actually legitimately arriving much later, so it wasnt a problem for me to show up later.

How many stays does the 100% represent, and roughly how many different properties?
Five stays at five different hotels spread over DC, NY and SF. All were Marriott properties (I have high status with them, and while I don't get points or stay credit, so far the given us some perks like late checkouts and the enhanced internet service).
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 11:48 pm
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For those of you currently or previously stuck in cannot-log-in-purgatory, is this the usual canned response you get from the lovely customer service folks?

We hope this email finds you well. We appreciate your continued patronage with AA. However, we have recently detected some unusual activity on your account that requires our attention.

Our priority is to ensure the security and safety of your account and the information associated with it. As part of our routine security measures, we are currently reviewing the activity on your account to verify its authenticity and safeguard your personal information.

During this review, you may experience temporary limitations or restrictions on your account access. Rest assured, our team is working diligently to complete the review as quickly as possible, and we aim to minimize any inconvenience this may cause. Therefore, at this time, we highly recommend making your reservation directly with the hotel using your credit card.

We regret that we cannot help you on this occasion.
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Old Feb 2, 2024, 3:45 am
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Originally Posted by O62
For those of you currently or previously stuck in cannot-log-in-purgatory, is this the usual canned response you get from the lovely customer service folks?
De facto what I got from calling in.

Now, I'll note that it is entirely possible that they're actually worried about "string of overseas reservations" equals "credit card fraud they would get smacked for if they weren't at least somewhat proactive about stopping it". Citi/AA may have a tight relationship, but that doesn't mean that Citi wouldn't get sore about someone complaining about (say) $2000 in room reservations under someone else's name - though if that was the case, I'd think that a short freeze combined with having the CC being used (presuming just one is) being asked to confirm the reservation(s) would do the trick.
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Old Feb 2, 2024, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by GrayAnderson
De facto what I got from calling in.

Now, I'll note that it is entirely possible that they're actually worried about "string of overseas reservations" equals "credit card fraud they would get smacked for if they weren't at least somewhat proactive about stopping it". Citi/AA may have a tight relationship, but that doesn't mean that Citi wouldn't get sore about someone complaining about (say) $2000 in room reservations under someone else's name - though if that was the case, I'd think that a short freeze combined with having the CC being used (presuming just one is) being asked to confirm the reservation(s) would do the trick.
Yes...these long prolonged freezes smack of understaffing, lack of planning, lack of funding for IT, lack of training, and/or all of the above.
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Old Feb 2, 2024, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by O62
Yes...these long prolonged freezes smack of understaffing, lack of planning, lack of funding for IT, lack of training, and/or all of the above.
So - a point in their defense: Apparently Booking.com has been suffering a rash of scam attacks on customers (link below to Fodors), and RocketMiles (which runs this) is owned by Booking Holdings. So if they are understaffed and jumpy, we're just getting hosed by an algorithm.
Hackers Are Targeting Booking.com With a Sophisticated Scam. Heres What You Need to Know (fodors.com)
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Old Feb 2, 2024, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Josh Geigerman
It's Kind of crazy how many Southeast Asia hotels go for low USD per night room rates, but still yield 1,000s of LPs per stay, if your February travel plans happen to include Cambodia, Vietnam or Thailand. If you get caught in a Monsoon and don't make it to the hotel the night(s) of your stay, there are no $ refunds, but you do get to keep the LPs.
Smooth.
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