[Archived] AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015-2018)
Jan 13, 2016, 11:18 am
#1036
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: BAEC Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 407
Looking to go JFK-NRT-JFK in JAL business or first. I looked up award availability on BA.com for my dates and there is no availability.
My plan is to book a business award JFK-DFW-NRT-DFW-JFK at the current 50k one way price. If I happen to find availability on the direct JFK-NRT-JFK legs, will I be able to change my award without penalty/cost? What if I did LGA-DFW-NRT-DFW-LGA? And if it happens to be first class availability that opens up after March 21st, will I pay the 62.5K price or the 80K price?
My plan is to book a business award JFK-DFW-NRT-DFW-JFK at the current 50k one way price. If I happen to find availability on the direct JFK-NRT-JFK legs, will I be able to change my award without penalty/cost? What if I did LGA-DFW-NRT-DFW-LGA? And if it happens to be first class availability that opens up after March 21st, will I pay the 62.5K price or the 80K price?
Jan 13, 2016, 1:59 pm
#1037
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: AA Plat, SPG/Marriot Gold, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Expl
Posts: 2,363
Looking to go JFK-NRT-JFK in JAL business or first. I looked up award availability on BA.com for my dates and there is no availability.
My plan is to book a business award JFK-DFW-NRT-DFW-JFK at the current 50k one way price. If I happen to find availability on the direct JFK-NRT-JFK legs, will I be able to change my award without penalty/cost? What if I did LGA-DFW-NRT-DFW-LGA? And if it happens to be first class availability that opens up after March 21st, will I pay the 62.5K price or the 80K price?
My plan is to book a business award JFK-DFW-NRT-DFW-JFK at the current 50k one way price. If I happen to find availability on the direct JFK-NRT-JFK legs, will I be able to change my award without penalty/cost? What if I did LGA-DFW-NRT-DFW-LGA? And if it happens to be first class availability that opens up after March 21st, will I pay the 62.5K price or the 80K price?
Changing the origin airport will require redeposit/reissue of the ticket, which will incur a fee and be subject to new award pricing if you do it after March 22.
Jan 15, 2016, 6:07 pm
#1038
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 6,769
If I wanted to change an award from HND-SFO-LAX to NRT-DFW-LAX, could I do that without incurring change fees? I thought that HND/NRT were considered coterminals, but the AAgent told me that this was an origin change. Is she right?
Jan 15, 2016, 6:11 pm
#1039
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,765
Origin / Destination are determined by airports, not by cities. You are changing the Origin, hence the fee.
Jan 15, 2016, 6:18 pm
#1040
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 6,769
Jan 15, 2016, 7:51 pm
#1041
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AA MM PP, MR LT Plat, Globalist
Posts: 1,004
Exception to routing thru 3rd region
Very interesting - Always learning something new about AA awards.
Previously, I placed this award on hold - the 1st agent even quoted me taxes:
LA634: SCL-LIM
LA2604: LIM-LAX
Note that SCL is in South S America and LIM is in N S America. The 2nd agent tried to ticket this and pointed out it was invalid. - Routing thru 3rd region.
She suggested this, which I couldn't even find on BA.com while we spoke:
LA600: SCL-LIM
LA600: LIM-LAX
Apparently, we don't "change" planes. (Physically we do, and we layover in LIM.)
I hesitated at first, but since I couldn't find it on BA.com, I ticketed it on the spot. Was the agent correct?
Previously, I placed this award on hold - the 1st agent even quoted me taxes:
LA634: SCL-LIM
LA2604: LIM-LAX
Note that SCL is in South S America and LIM is in N S America. The 2nd agent tried to ticket this and pointed out it was invalid. - Routing thru 3rd region.
She suggested this, which I couldn't even find on BA.com while we spoke:
LA600: SCL-LIM
LA600: LIM-LAX
Apparently, we don't "change" planes. (Physically we do, and we layover in LIM.)
I hesitated at first, but since I couldn't find it on BA.com, I ticketed it on the spot. Was the agent correct?
Jan 15, 2016, 7:56 pm
#1042
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST
Posts: 27,730
Very interesting - Always learning something new about AA awards.
Previously, I placed this award on hold - the 1st agent even quoted me taxes:
LA634: SCL-LIM
LA2604: LIM-LAX
Note that SCL is in South S America and LIM is in N S America. The 2nd agent tried to ticket this and pointed out it was invalid. - Routing thru 3rd region.
She suggested this, which I couldn't even find on BA.com while we spoke:
LA600: SCL-LIM
LA600: LIM-LAX
Apparently, we don't "change" planes. (Physically we do, and we layover in LIM.)
I hesitated at first, but since I couldn't find it on BA.com, I ticketed it on the spot. Was the agent correct?
Previously, I placed this award on hold - the 1st agent even quoted me taxes:
LA634: SCL-LIM
LA2604: LIM-LAX
Note that SCL is in South S America and LIM is in N S America. The 2nd agent tried to ticket this and pointed out it was invalid. - Routing thru 3rd region.
She suggested this, which I couldn't even find on BA.com while we spoke:
LA600: SCL-LIM
LA600: LIM-LAX
Apparently, we don't "change" planes. (Physically we do, and we layover in LIM.)
I hesitated at first, but since I couldn't find it on BA.com, I ticketed it on the spot. Was the agent correct?
Last edited by JonNYC; Jan 15, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Jan 15, 2016, 7:58 pm
#1043
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
Just thought to bump my questions as my first segment is about to open in a few days for AA to book. Hence, want to make sure I fully understand the rules from AA correctly. Thank You.
Very new in redeeming AA miles, but with the deval coming, thinking of cashing my account now for a CX J. But I have some questions:
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jan 15, 2016, 8:06 pm
#1044
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,604
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No fee for booking CX awards by phone with AA.
No free stopovers with AAdvantage awards.
No fee to change travel dates as long as the new date is at least 21 days after the award's original ticketing date. As long as you satisfy that condition, it does not matter how far in advance of the new travel date you change the award ticket.
Originally Posted by alc
Just thought to bump my questions as my first segment is about to open in a few days for AA to book. Hence, want to make sure I fully understand the rules from AA correctly. Thank You.
Very new in redeeming AA miles, but with the deval coming, thinking of cashing my account now for a CX J. But I have some questions:
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
No free stopovers with AAdvantage awards.
No fee to change travel dates as long as the new date is at least 21 days after the award's original ticketing date. As long as you satisfy that condition, it does not matter how far in advance of the new travel date you change the award ticket.
Jan 15, 2016, 8:09 pm
#1045
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
[SIZE=1]No fee for booking CX awards by phone with AA.
No free stopovers with AAdvantage awards.
No fee to change travel dates as long as the new date is at least 21 days after the award's original ticketing date. As long as you satisfy that condition, it does not matter how far in advance of the new travel date you change the award ticket.
No free stopovers with AAdvantage awards.
No fee to change travel dates as long as the new date is at least 21 days after the award's original ticketing date. As long as you satisfy that condition, it does not matter how far in advance of the new travel date you change the award ticket.
Jan 16, 2016, 9:07 pm
#1046
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: NZ*G, TK*G, Le Club Accorhotels AdvantagePlus Platinum
Posts: 158
Award booking South Pacific to Europe, via. 2 regions?
Hi all,
Is someone please able to advise if it would be valid to make an award booking via. 2x third regions? I am looking to make an award booking for myself and my partner from South Pacific to Europe and I know that it is possible to route via. the third regions of Asia 1/2 and Middle East (Doha only, provided it is in and out on Qatar Airways)?
I am looking to fly from South Pacific to Europe via. HKG-SIN-DOH but this is pricing up as two awards, to wanted to check if this was a valid routing.
Thanks for your help!
Is someone please able to advise if it would be valid to make an award booking via. 2x third regions? I am looking to make an award booking for myself and my partner from South Pacific to Europe and I know that it is possible to route via. the third regions of Asia 1/2 and Middle East (Doha only, provided it is in and out on Qatar Airways)?
I am looking to fly from South Pacific to Europe via. HKG-SIN-DOH but this is pricing up as two awards, to wanted to check if this was a valid routing.
Thanks for your help!
Jan 17, 2016, 7:26 am
#1048
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MEL
Posts: 2,441
SWP-EUR is one award, provided you don't stopover enroute. As soon as you have a stopover, it's two (or more) awards.
I'm unclear on what you want to do. Do you simply want to get from SWP-EUR or are you wanting to stopover in HKG, SIN and/or DOH? Even if you don't have a stopover at any of the intermediate points (i.e., you stay less than 24 hours) the routing rules for an award would almost certainly preclude you from having more than one transit point and thus would require two (or more) awards.
I'm unclear on what you want to do. Do you simply want to get from SWP-EUR or are you wanting to stopover in HKG, SIN and/or DOH? Even if you don't have a stopover at any of the intermediate points (i.e., you stay less than 24 hours) the routing rules for an award would almost certainly preclude you from having more than one transit point and thus would require two (or more) awards.
Jan 17, 2016, 2:13 pm
#1049
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: NZ*G, TK*G, Le Club Accorhotels AdvantagePlus Platinum
Posts: 158
Thanks tt7 and JonNYC for your help, that clarifies things. I was having difficulty trying to find availability between Australia (all QR ports - SYD, MEL and PER) and DOH so was looking to route via Asia 2 to get a good connection into Doha and onwards to Europe. The problem was that it was then pricing as two awards, (South pacific to the middle east via. Asia 2, and Middle East to Europe) so for a o/w flight, it was 150k points instead of 120k.
I think i've managed to find a workable option now, but it took a lot of searching. Bit of a pity that AA is a bit restrictive than the old US Airways, but just something to be aware of and work with really..
I think i've managed to find a workable option now, but it took a lot of searching. Bit of a pity that AA is a bit restrictive than the old US Airways, but just something to be aware of and work with really..
Jan 17, 2016, 4:34 pm
#1050
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,765
Thanks tt7 and JonNYC for your help, that clarifies things. I was having difficulty trying to find availability between Australia (all QR ports - SYD, MEL and PER) and DOH so was looking to route via Asia 2 to get a good connection into Doha and onwards to Europe. The problem was that it was then pricing as two awards, (South pacific to the middle east via. Asia 2, and Middle East to Europe) so for a o/w flight, it was 150k points instead of 120k.
I think i've managed to find a workable option now, but it took a lot of searching. Bit of a pity that AA is a bit restrictive than the old US Airways, but just something to be aware of and work with really..
I think i've managed to find a workable option now, but it took a lot of searching. Bit of a pity that AA is a bit restrictive than the old US Airways, but just something to be aware of and work with really..
Have you tried to search as O/D instead of city pair? I have an EU to SYD award that the space only shows up as EU - SYD search, and wont show up as EU-DOH, DOH-SYD.