[Archived] AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015-2018)
#1021
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,604
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Call AA and put the CX flights on hold, and -- if you see availability on aa.com for SEA-PSC on AS -- ask if it can be added to the same award.
If CX does not have a published SIN-PSC through-fare that permits you particular routing, then a second award will be required.
AAdvantage awards between Asia and North America do not permit routing via the Atlantic.
Call AA and put the CX flights on hold, and -- if you see availability on aa.com for SEA-PSC on AS -- ask if it can be added to the same award.
If CX does not have a published SIN-PSC through-fare that permits you particular routing, then a second award will be required.
AAdvantage awards between Asia and North America do not permit routing via the Atlantic.
#1022
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 20
How do I check if CX have a publkished SIN-PSC through-fare for that routing?
#1023
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Use Expert Flyer, or just ask AA if your routing will price aa a single award.
Originally Posted by AndroAsc
How do I check if CX have a publkished SIN-PSC through-fare for that routing?
#1024
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, NYC
Programs: Marriott Gold, JGC, IHG Platinum, Hilton Gold, AC 25K
Posts: 1,025
Is the following allowed? For North America to Middle East connecting in both Europe and Doha.
YYZ-AMS-DOH-DXB, with first leg on 9W and then QR.
If not, my alternative will be YYZ-AMS-AUH via 9W/EY then drive/bus to Dubai.
YYZ-AMS-DOH-DXB, with first leg on 9W and then QR.
If not, my alternative will be YYZ-AMS-AUH via 9W/EY then drive/bus to Dubai.
#1025
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
Very new in redeeming AA miles, but with the deval coming, thinking of cashing my account now for a CX J. But I have some questions:
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
- I read that started from Feb 3rd 2015, AA had waived the telephone book fee for flight that you can't book on the AA web site. So my CX tickets will no longer required to pay the booking fee, is that correct?
- Am I correct that there is no stopover with AA? Hence if I do YYZ-HKG-SIN {stop} SIN-HKG {stop} HKG-YYZ in CX J as a single booking, it will be 132.5K (55K + 22.5K + 55K) correct? and since there is no booking fee, it might be better for me to book each separately so I can grab the seats as they become available to AA booking?
- I have no status with AA and from reading the rules, it does seems as long as I am > 21 days, I can make changes to the dates for the same routing for free? Are there any hidden fine-print to this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
#1026
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
Present award booking for 50k on biz class
ZRH-JFK on AA
JFK- YVR on CX
Want to change from
ZRH - LAX on IB (arrive at LAX at 4:15 P.M)
LAX - PDX- YVR on Alaska Airlines (leaves following day at 9 A.M)
first CSR said it could not be done for the same 50k miles as I have over 4 hours layover in LAX
2nd CSR I talked to said it could be the same 50k miles but I need to be on an AA aircraft from LAX to YVR
Is any of it true?
Am I able to have up to 24 hours connection at LAX to YVR for the same 50k award Miles based on my change request?
ZRH-JFK on AA
JFK- YVR on CX
Want to change from
ZRH - LAX on IB (arrive at LAX at 4:15 P.M)
LAX - PDX- YVR on Alaska Airlines (leaves following day at 9 A.M)
first CSR said it could not be done for the same 50k miles as I have over 4 hours layover in LAX
2nd CSR I talked to said it could be the same 50k miles but I need to be on an AA aircraft from LAX to YVR
Is any of it true?
Am I able to have up to 24 hours connection at LAX to YVR for the same 50k award Miles based on my change request?
#1027
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: PHL
Programs: AA - Plat, HHonors - Diamond, IHG - Plat, Marriott - Gold, National - Exec, Amtrak - Select, NEXUS
Posts: 1,075
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I have found some 50k U bucket availability to PHL-MAD (via DFW or MIA) on AA metal, and some same-day connections in MAD on IB to FCO - all U buckets per Expert Flyer.
My question:
Can I call AA and get them to book PHL-DFW/MIA-MAD-FCO for 50k if I feed them the flights where I see U availability (both AA and IB)?
I have found some 50k U bucket availability to PHL-MAD (via DFW or MIA) on AA metal, and some same-day connections in MAD on IB to FCO - all U buckets per Expert Flyer.
My question:
Can I call AA and get them to book PHL-DFW/MIA-MAD-FCO for 50k if I feed them the flights where I see U availability (both AA and IB)?
Regardless of the significant over-mileage for PHL-FCO with that routing, the AAgent simply added the IB flight with little fuss and told me it would be "the same 100k award" and took my payment info.
I'll breathe easier when I go from "On Request" to "Ticketed" but it seems to have worked out in my favor and for 40k miles less than it should have.
#1028
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,764
Present award booking for 50k on biz class
ZRH-JFK on AA
JFK- YVR on CX
Want to change from
ZRH - LAX on IB (arrive at LAX at 4:15 P.M)
LAX - PDX- YVR on Alaska Airlines (leaves following day at 9 A.M)
first CSR said it could not be done for the same 50k miles as I have over 4 hours layover in LAX
2nd CSR I talked to said it could be the same 50k miles but I need to be on an AA aircraft from LAX to YVR
Is any of it true?
Am I able to have up to 24 hours connection at LAX to YVR for the same 50k award Miles based on my change request?
ZRH-JFK on AA
JFK- YVR on CX
Want to change from
ZRH - LAX on IB (arrive at LAX at 4:15 P.M)
LAX - PDX- YVR on Alaska Airlines (leaves following day at 9 A.M)
first CSR said it could not be done for the same 50k miles as I have over 4 hours layover in LAX
2nd CSR I talked to said it could be the same 50k miles but I need to be on an AA aircraft from LAX to YVR
Is any of it true?
Am I able to have up to 24 hours connection at LAX to YVR for the same 50k award Miles based on my change request?
1) ZRH-LAX on IB - IB does not fly this route AFAIK. So this would be either going thru MAD or it is an IB codeshare?
2) The over the water carrier's fare rules determine what routes / carriers are allowed. If the routing / carrier are not allowed, the award breaks up, hence the additional miles.
3) AS is not a OneWorld Member so even if the change is successfully, it will cost you $150 change fee because you are changing the carriers from OneWorld members to include a NON OneWorld Member. Keep it on AA would avoid that.
The first agent has no clue.
The second agent is probably correct based on 2). And he failed to mention 3) probably 3) is not even possible due to IB's fare rules. Is it really an IB flight from ZRH-LAX? You would get better input to post the FULL itinerary ZRH-LAX.
The layover < 24 hours is fine.
#1029
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 520
Keep F award ticket, sit in J?
Currently have 3 J & 1 F seat booked to Hanoi, routing through HKG. Looking at changing to a flight that connects through NRT instead, which doesn't offer F. Can I keep the F award and just voluntarily sit in J? I don't want to pay the $150 fee for downgrading (don't mind paying the extra miles), plus would switch back to a CX F seat if one opened up last minute.
Last edited by nic3456; Jan 12, 2016 at 7:39 pm
#1030
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: atlanta
Posts: 56
Hyd doh bru phl
HI Everyone,
Just wanted to share this (not sure if this is the right forum chapter).
From reading this and several other topics in flyertalk, I managed to book two economy tickets to India in March.
Used 80k delta skymiles for 2 economy one way flights from PHL to BLR via Paris (Air France).
Used another 80k American Airline points to book HYD to DOH to BRU to PHL. This I learned had to be done over the phone. The first person I spoke to on the phone didn't not really know what she was doing (I had a gut feeling she wasn't really trying). I hung up and tried calling again and this time the person was very smart and got these tickets.
Cheers,
Mango
Just wanted to share this (not sure if this is the right forum chapter).
From reading this and several other topics in flyertalk, I managed to book two economy tickets to India in March.
Used 80k delta skymiles for 2 economy one way flights from PHL to BLR via Paris (Air France).
Used another 80k American Airline points to book HYD to DOH to BRU to PHL. This I learned had to be done over the phone. The first person I spoke to on the phone didn't not really know what she was doing (I had a gut feeling she wasn't really trying). I hung up and tried calling again and this time the person was very smart and got these tickets.
Cheers,
Mango
#1031
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 515
Currently have 3 J & 1 F seat booked to Hanoi, routing through HKG. Looking at changing to a flight that connects through NRT instead, which doesn't offer F. Can I keep the F award and just voluntarily sit in J? I don't want to pay the $150 fee for downgrading (don't mind paying the extra miles), plus would switch back to a CX F seat if one opened up last minute.
#1032
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 520
#1033
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 515
#1034
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 520
Award options from Danang (DAD)
Does anyone know any Oneworld options to fly out of Danang (DAD) other than CX/Dragonair? I have a ticket booked with AA miles and can't find anything between March 23-27 leaving DAD and its holding up the rest of my trip. I'm willing to fly from another airport, but don't want to pay the origin change fee since I have 4 tickets.
#1035
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boulder
Programs: AA Plat, CX Silver
Posts: 2,361
Does anyone know any Oneworld options to fly out of Danang (DAD) other than CX/Dragonair? I have a ticket booked with AA miles and can't find anything between March 23-27 leaving DAD and its holding up the rest of my trip. I'm willing to fly from another airport, but don't want to pay the origin change fee since I have 4 tickets.