Aug 17, 2015, 9:59 am
Last edit by: WindowSeatFlyer
NOTE: Discussion here is for the Boeing 777-200ERs refitted with the Zodiac "Concept D" Business Suite (forward and aft facing seats) only.
See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
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See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
Related threads
Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777? (As of 11 Dec 2018)
772 Refitted 777-200ER B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Business Seat / Seats
Best 772 Zodiac J Refitted 777-200ER MCE and Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
Best 772 B/E Aerospace J Refitted 777-200ER MCE & Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
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Jul 22, 2016, 4:55 pm
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Basically, every seat between the 2d and 3d doors look out over the wings.
For an unobstructed view, the first few rows or way back in economy are your choices.
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LAX NRT C coming up in November, any chance of that switching to 787 or cancelling that route altogether so we get put on HND flight?
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Man these zodiac seats suck. On AA235 now.SO seat control is down no way to reset it. And my seat is shaking non stop from those behind me. I can see why they switched manufacturers!
Aug 11, 2016, 5:46 am
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Hah!! The customer experience isn't why they switched manufacturers. It was because Zodiac couldn't produce the seats in a timely manner and was delaying deliveries. AA would have been happy to have these things flying around fleet-wide.
Aug 11, 2016, 6:37 am
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As if you know the actual details.
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Aug 11, 2016, 6:56 am
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Also this bothers me
Why on earthen is it oriented that way. They would still be able to make it a controller and have the buttons upright when stowed lol
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Aug 11, 2016, 7:16 am
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For all we know, AA was not happy with the performance of the seat and could have used a contractual clause for the manufacturer to fix it if Zodiac was on time. Due to Zodiac's lateness (in breach of said contract), perhaps AA determined it was better to take the route they did rather than wait on late seats and likely a late fix from the manufacturer.
Aug 11, 2016, 7:34 am
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For all we know, AA was not happy with the performance of the seat and could have used a contractual clause for the manufacturer to fix it if Zodiac was on time. Due to Zodiac's lateness (in breach of said contract), perhaps AA determined it was better to take the route they did rather than wait on late seats and likely a late fix from the manufacturer.
Aug 11, 2016, 7:36 am
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That's not quite a fair comment to JonNYC IMO. If anyone knew more of the actual details, he'd be one of the posters here who would know.
For all we know, AA was not happy with the performance of the seat and could have used a contractual clause for the manufacturer to fix it if Zodiac was on time. Due to Zodiac's lateness (in breach of said contract), perhaps AA determined it was better to take the route they did rather than wait on late seats and likely a late fix from the manufacturer.
For all we know, AA was not happy with the performance of the seat and could have used a contractual clause for the manufacturer to fix it if Zodiac was on time. Due to Zodiac's lateness (in breach of said contract), perhaps AA determined it was better to take the route they did rather than wait on late seats and likely a late fix from the manufacturer.