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Old Mar 6, 2013, 10:37 am
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[B]Through / direct with same flight number on multiple segments credit as single non-stop

Through or direct flights are those that use one flight number but may not be nonstop. Takeaway: all nonstop flights are direct; direct flights might not be non-stop. When speaking to agents and you want a nonstop flight, specify nonstop.

A direct (or through) flight in the aviation industry is any flight between two points by an airline with no change in flight numbers, which includes one or more stops at an intermediate point(s).
AAdvantage Terms and Conditions (link):

For any flights that earn mileage credit based on a percentage of distance flown, the distance is determined on the basis of nonstop distances between the airports where your flight originates and terminates. On connecting flights with different flight numbers, the distance of each segment will be used. On single-plane, through, or change of gauge flights, the nonstop origin-destination distance will be used and credit for a single elite qualifying segment will be given.
[*]AAdvantage flight mileage credit is determined on the basis of nonstop distances between the airports where your flight originates and terminates. On connecting flights with different flight numbers, you'll receive mileage credit for each segment of your trip; on single-plane, through, or change of gauge flights, you'll receive the nonstop origin-destination mileage credit and credit for a single elite qualifying segment. On American Airlines and other AAdvantage airline participants, you'll receive AAdvantage mileage credit only for the class of service on which your fare is based when you are ticketed. American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing. American Airlines is the final authority on qualification for mileage credit and reserves the right to deny or revoke mileage credit at any time if American Airlines determines that mileage credit was improperly given.
If one takes a through / direct flight consisting of two or more segments operated as one flight number, the miles earned are as if the flight was a nonstop. E.g. AA111 FCO-ORD (772) and AA111 ORD-LAX (738) would render miles and segment credits as if you had flown nonstop FCO-LAX, even if you had a change of aircraft, terminals and gates in ORD.

It's not uncommon to have different aircraft carry out different segments, even different "gauges" (narrow and wide bodied) and different terminals. Normally, passengers flying both segments must disembark with cabin / hand baggage at the intermediate stops.

The exception is for round trips using same flight numbers, e.g. a mileage run using AA 123 SMF-DFW-SMF would credit separately and properly.

Seat selection will normally be for seats offered on all segments (as opposed to being able to select different seats on different segments.

Upgrades must normally clear on all segments to clear.

There are other peculiarities (affecting upgrade requests, Five Star Services, etc.) discussed in this thread. Booking through / direct flights can cause challenges one doesn’t experience on connections ting flights with different flight numbers or nonstop flights.
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Old Jan 30, 2015, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by crnk
Thanks guys! I tried to split segments on US but it wanted 100 more since it priced each segment fully. Good news here is that it appears IAH-PHX-YYC as a single # on most days so I might be able to avoid it if I want to by changing dates around a little bit and paying the few extra $ in taxes.
The upside of "direct" flights on AA/US is that if you ever want to redeem BA Avios on such a flight, you'll be charged as if you were on a nonstop.
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Old Jan 30, 2015, 10:58 pm
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The main benefit seems to me that it will not be possible to miss the connection since it seems to be the same aeroplane the whole way

If delayed out of IAH, no need to worry at PHX - would work nicely for me over an extra 486 miles earning
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 4:15 am
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Merged with existing thread discussing direct/through flights. Thanks. /Moderator
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Old Feb 22, 2015, 12:07 pm
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Through flight EQM credit

Kind of a weird one... flew US 1843 BNA-CLT-ATL a few weeks ago. One boarding pass BNA-ATL. Used AA number at booking, got upgraded on both legs, same seat, same aircraft.

EQM credit: 214? Pretty sure that is actual BNA-ATL, but doesn't account for the connection. Any point in bothering to call AA?
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Old Feb 22, 2015, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
Kind of a weird one... flew US 1843 BNA-CLT-ATL a few weeks ago. One boarding pass BNA-ATL. Used AA number at booking, got upgraded on both legs, same seat, same aircraft.

EQM credit: 214? Pretty sure that is actual BNA-ATL, but doesn't account for the connection. Any point in bothering to call AA?
No, been the standard at AA for some time. Only if you have different flight numbers do you get segment mileage. Some reported issues when the same flight number is used for the return flight too.
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Old Feb 22, 2015, 12:27 pm
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You'll get miles as if you flew nonstop BNA-ATL. That's AA policy, and they won't grant you one more mile.

As this was posted in the Combined forum but AA and US continue operating as separate airlines in most ways, we will move this to the proper forum and merge into the existing, current thread.

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Old Feb 24, 2015, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
No, been the standard at AA for some time. Only if you have different flight numbers do you get segment mileage. Some reported issues when the same flight number is used for the return flight too.
So no segment credit either?
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
So no segment credit either?
It's like what sailors fear - a frayed knot.
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
So no segment credit either?
You will get credit for one segment.
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Old Feb 25, 2015, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by born sleepy
So no segment credit either?
No extra segment credit. The system sees it as a single point-to-point flight and posts according.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 1:22 pm
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I tried to upgrade using miles on flight 104 from DCA-LHR via JFK later this year. The agent wasn't able to do it even though domestic upgrade bucket was A7 for DCA-JFK and international upgrade was C7 for JFK-LHR. I had to switch to an express flight from DCA-JFK in order to upgrade.

Is this because the domestic was a "first" upgrade (2-class A/C) and international was a business upgrade or simply because it had to pull from different buckets and the direct flight required the upgrade to come from the same fare class? At least I get more miles for the two flights now but with a tighter connection.
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Old May 18, 2015, 6:45 am
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Stopover only awarded 1 segment

hello,

I recently flew form ATL-DFW with a stop in CLT. I was only awarded 1 segment and miles if I had flown direct from ATL-DFW and not ATL-CLT and CLT-DFW.

Is this correct or should I be earning two segments and miles for both legs?
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Old May 18, 2015, 7:31 am
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If it was the same flight number, then unfortunately this is correct.
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Old May 18, 2015, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by SJC AA
If it was the same flight number, then unfortunately this is correct.
This is why you have to be careful what you are booking. AA was not a huge user of "thru" flight numbers in the past, while US was a HUGE proponent of them... even on extremely circuitous routings.
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Old May 18, 2015, 10:12 am
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Very disappointing to hear. When I originally booked the ticket I did not realize the stopover since it was marketed as just ATL-DFW. I was hoping to at least get the additional and segment for the pain.
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