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[B]Through / direct with same flight number on multiple segments credit as single non-stop

Through or direct flights are those that use one flight number but may not be nonstop. Takeaway: all nonstop flights are direct; direct flights might not be non-stop. When speaking to agents and you want a nonstop flight, specify nonstop.

A direct (or through) flight in the aviation industry is any flight between two points by an airline with no change in flight numbers, which includes one or more stops at an intermediate point(s).
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For any flights that earn mileage credit based on a percentage of distance flown, the distance is determined on the basis of nonstop distances between the airports where your flight originates and terminates. On connecting flights with different flight numbers, the distance of each segment will be used. On single-plane, through, or change of gauge flights, the nonstop origin-destination distance will be used and credit for a single elite qualifying segment will be given.
[*]AAdvantage flight mileage credit is determined on the basis of nonstop distances between the airports where your flight originates and terminates. On connecting flights with different flight numbers, you'll receive mileage credit for each segment of your trip; on single-plane, through, or change of gauge flights, you'll receive the nonstop origin-destination mileage credit and credit for a single elite qualifying segment. On American Airlines and other AAdvantage airline participants, you'll receive AAdvantage mileage credit only for the class of service on which your fare is based when you are ticketed. American Airlines is the final authority on the methodology used to calculate mileage and the amount of flight credit for a particular flight or routing. American Airlines is the final authority on qualification for mileage credit and reserves the right to deny or revoke mileage credit at any time if American Airlines determines that mileage credit was improperly given.
If one takes a through / direct flight consisting of two or more segments operated as one flight number, the miles earned are as if the flight was a nonstop. E.g. AA111 FCO-ORD (772) and AA111 ORD-LAX (738) would render miles and segment credits as if you had flown nonstop FCO-LAX, even if you had a change of aircraft, terminals and gates in ORD.

It's not uncommon to have different aircraft carry out different segments, even different "gauges" (narrow and wide bodied) and different terminals. Normally, passengers flying both segments must disembark with cabin / hand baggage at the intermediate stops.

The exception is for round trips using same flight numbers, e.g. a mileage run using AA 123 SMF-DFW-SMF would credit separately and properly.

Seat selection will normally be for seats offered on all segments (as opposed to being able to select different seats on different segments.

Upgrades must normally clear on all segments to clear.

There are other peculiarities (affecting upgrade requests, Five Star Services, etc.) discussed in this thread. Booking through / direct flights can cause challenges one doesn’t experience on connections ting flights with different flight numbers or nonstop flights.
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Old Apr 22, 12, 7:40 am
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One or multi-stop, single flight numbers: through / direct flights (master thd)

Is there a list anywhere of two sector single number flights AA has and when those flights operate?

eg: AA2046 SEA-DFW-STL except Sunday from 21 Aug
AA874 SEA-ORD-BOS daily until Aug 20
etc
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AA 154 NRT-ORD-BOS is probably the oldest one I've known for years
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Originally Posted by Himeno View Post
Is there a list anywhere of two sector single number flights AA has and when those flights operate?

eg: AA2046 SEA-DFW-STL except Sunday from 21 Aug
AA874 SEA-ORD-BOS daily until Aug 20
etc
theres a bos-dfw-lax....

may i ask what your use of the list would be?
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AA1247 FLL ORD LAX

If anyone else flies such routes and credits miles to AA do you get (in the above example) FLL-ORD + ORD-LAX or do you get FLL-LAX? The difference is about 2000 miles I think
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Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia View Post
AA1247 FLL ORD LAX

If anyone else flies such routes and credits miles to AA do you get (in the above example) FLL-ORD + ORD-LAX or do you get FLL-LAX? The difference is about 2000 miles I think
Fll-lax unless you book it as 2 segments. And it's less than 600 miles difference.
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My experience has been, that you get 1 flight segment, and the official mileage for, in your example, FLL-LAX.

That's why I used to avoid 2401 DFW-SFO because it stopped in LAX, and I always need segments (who doesn't?)

(Exceptions post here................. )

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Originally Posted by emma dog View Post
Fll-lax unless you book it as 2 segments. And it's less than 600 miles difference.
Thanks! my mistake 600 miles = 2000kms with elite bonus.

What do you mean by 2 segments? With a stopover in ORD?
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Originally Posted by emma dog View Post
Fll-lax unless you book it as 2 segments. And it's less than 600 miles difference.
And there is no guarantee, that after booking as 2 segments, on 2 records with 2 different locator numbers, that they won't be combined.
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Originally Posted by emma dog View Post
Fll-lax unless you book it as 2 segments. And it's less than 600 miles difference.
Even if you book it as two-segments via Multi-city, AA may merge it into one direct flight. The sure-fire way to break it is to book two separate tickets.
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Even if you book it as two-segments via Multi-city, AA may merge it into one direct flight. The sure-fire way to break it is to book two separate tickets.
OK FLL ORD LAX is not a mistake I will repeat in the quest for a few extra kms
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Even if you change aircraft because the flights require a change of gauge, AA will generally treat a through flight as if it were a nonstop flight (e.g. the old AA (was it AA 38?) SFO-DFW-ZRH, requiring an aircraft change at DFW, would render one segment and SFO-ZRH mileage.)

Buying separately MIGHT result in two segments and full mileage, but it also might not.
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in current timetable:

Code:
AA1017: FLL => DFW => SEA
AA1925: MSY => DFW => SLC
AA842: DEN => DFW => CMH
AA364: CZM => DFW => RSW
AA879: IAD => DFW => PSP
AA349: BOS => DFW => SNA
AA1688: CUN => DFW => LAX
AA1041: BOS => ORD => SJC
AA1185: IAD => DFW => PDX
AA1882: TUL => DFW => BOS
AA408: RSW => ORD => PHL
AA1675: DSM => DFW => ABQ
AA775: BOS => MIA => STT
AA2211: OMA => DFW => PDX
AA1841: IND => DFW => TUS
AA985: IAD => MIA => MGA
AA808: COS => DFW => DCA
AA637: DCA => MIA => MSY
AA1345: BOS => ORD => LAX
AA1592: SMF => DFW => MCO
AA1008: SAT => DFW => HSV
AA1703: ABQ => DFW => SAT
AA1045: YUL => DFW => LAX
AA921: PHX => MIA => CLO
AA2421: RSW => DFW => LAX
AA2406: LAS => DFW => BWI
AA959: IAH => MIA => PTY
AA507: DCA => ORD => SFO
AA2078: SJU => ORD => SAN
AA887: BOS => DFW => YVR
AA1831: MSY => MIA => TPA
AA555: ATL => DFW => SAT
AA1789: DCA => DFW => SAN
AA2493: SAT => DFW => LAX
AA641: MTY => DFW => YYC
AA1948: IAH => DFW => PHL
AA815: TPA => DFW => ELP
AA645: EWR => MIA => STT
AA1023: IAH => DFW => ELP
AA2058: LAX => DFW => SJU
AA2240: GCM => MIA => YUL
AA1251: PHX => DFW => MCI
AA675: ONT => DFW => MEX
AA1711: MCO => MIA => SDQ
AA350: SFO => ORD => LGA
AA1399: PHL => MIA => KIN
AA331: LGA => ORD => MSP
AA1872: MSP => ORD => MCO
AA1613: RSW => ORD => SFO
AA1042: GDL => DFW => RDU
AA446: DEN => DFW => PHL
AA1118: AUS => DFW => PIT
AA860: SAN => DFW => CLT
AA1183: DEN => DFW => OKC
AA1298: DEN => DFW => BWI
AA532: SEA => ORD => DCA
AA1913: CMH => DFW => SMF
AA674: COS => DFW => TPA
AA1849: MEM => DFW => MFE
AA604: MTY => DFW => SAN
AA848: ABQ => DFW => ATL
AA322: PHX => DFW => BHM
AA1564: ABQ => DFW => LIT
AA2436: LAX => DFW => FLL
AA1390: MSP => DFW => XNA
AA433: AUS => DFW => MEX
AA567: OMA => DFW => PHX
AA1125: MCO => MIA => LAX
AA2272: MEX => DFW => SAN
AA2440: LAX => DFW => BOS
AA1240: TUL => DFW => DCA
AA890: ABQ => DFW => STL
AA2185: DCA => MIA => CUN
AA1020: MCI => DFW => MSY
AA540: SAN => DFW => IND
AA667: MFE => DFW => ABQ
AA2317: PHL => ORD => DFW
AA1260: MSY => DFW => STL
AA374: PHX => ORD => LGA
AA348: LAS => ORD => LGA
AA474: ABQ => DFW => ATL
AA1827: PHL => DFW => SMF
AA2194: BZE => DFW => SNA
AA2202: SJU => MIA => EWR
AA2080: ELP => DFW => DSM
AA1218: SAN => DFW => BHM
AA1781: MSY => DFW => MFE
AA2340: SFO => ORD => BOS
AA1033: SLC => DFW => ELP
AA1344: XNA => DFW => MSP
AA701: JFK => MIA => SJU
AA889: STL => ORD => LAX
AA572: SEA => ORD => JFK
AA668: SNA => DFW => MSP
AA1938: MSP => MIA => TPA
AA1349: LIT => DFW => FAT
AA483: SMF => DFW => SAT
AA1605: BOS => ORD => SAN
AA1066: MEX => DFW => SLC
AA2004: SNA => ORD => MIA
AA1754: SAT => DFW => MKE
AA932: UIO => MIA => STL
AA1739: FAT => DFW => ICT
AA385: STL => DFW => ELP
AA2013: PHL => ORD => LAS
AA515: EWR => DFW => MFE
AA1625: SJU => DFW => CUN
AA1072: MCI => DFW => PHL
AA2212: CUN => DFW => SFO
AA741: SFO => LAX => LAS
AA1649: OKC => DFW => ONT
AA1376: KIN => MIA => PHX
AA2193: SFO => DFW => BZE
AA2110: LIM => MIA => JFK
AA1487: BOS => ORD => RNO
AA578: DCA => DFW => SAT
AA1380: AUS => DFW => IND
AA453: CLT => DFW => PDX
AA2024: RNO => DFW => BNA
AA1407: DCA => DFW => GDL
AA428: LAS => DFW => RDU
AA1730: SJC => ORD => FLL
AA544: MCO => MIA => DFW
AA588: SJU => MIA => BOS
AA382: MCO => ORD => LGA
AA1432: IAH => DFW => SAN
AA972: SJO => MIA => LAS
AA1892: PHX => DFW => PIT
AA2448: LAX => DFW => DCA
AA646: TPA => MIA => YYZ
AA1880: CUR => MIA => RDU
AA838: ICT => DFW => PIT
AA1629: TPA => DFW => SAN
AA1548: PDX => DFW => DCA
AA1681: AUS => DFW => SDF
AA1824: SEA => DFW => AUS
AA418: RDU => DFW => MCI
AA2167: BOS => DFW => SJO
AA1710: SNA => DFW => IAD
AA1906: ANU => MIA => DTW
AA478: BWI => MIA => MBJ
AA1848: PSP => DFW => BNA
AA2438: SJD => DFW => PHX
AA1805: MCO => MIA => LAX
AA952: MGA => MIA => IAH
AA1960: EWR => MIA => TPA
AA389: SDF => DFW => ABQ
AA523: DAY => DFW => ELP
AA533: BNA => DFW => SAN
AA345: LGA => ORD => STL
AA2071: PBI => ORD => PSP
AA993: ATL => MIA => PTY
AA373: BNA => DFW => SNA
AA1195: AUS => DFW => MTY
AA1538: SJC => DFW => MCO
AA2290: PHX => DFW => DSM
AA2312: SMF => DFW => DTW
AA440: OKC => DFW => OMA
AA621: JAX => DFW => SEA
AA1279: MCI => DFW => PHX
AA2067: PHX => ORD => STL
AA1934: RDU => DFW => XNA
AA1452: PBI => DFW => AUS
AA2103: BDL => MIA => BZE
AA1046: TUL => DFW => MIA
AA1172: ONT => DFW => OMA
AA980: SSA => REC => MIA
AA903: BOS => MIA => CCS
AA353: LGA => ORD => LAX
AA2162: GUA => DFW => SFO
AA2065: SAT => DFW => DEN
AA537: BOS => ORD => LAS
AA1717: PIT => DFW => AUS
AA1884: XNA => DFW => ATL
AA1112: SJC => DFW => TPA
AA795: JFK => MIA => STT
AA1441: DCA => DFW => SFO
AA1163: ATL => DFW => COS
AA576: MTY => DFW => AUS
AA827: DCA => ORD => SJC
AA823: TPA => DFW => TUS
AA1473: MSP => DFW => AUS
AA1599: ELP => DFW => IAH
AA1587: JAX => DFW => AUS
AA1475: IND => DFW => LAS
AA1616: COS => DFW => AUS
AA1659: LAS => ORD => MCI
AA1733: TPA => ORD => PHX
AA1400: LAX => ORD => MCO
AA1698: ABQ => DFW => BWI
AA953: DFW => MIA => TGU
AA1604: SAN => DFW => LIT
AA415: MIA => ORD => SEA
AA2147: YYZ => MIA => CUN
AA319: LGA => ORD => LAS
AA1885: SAT => DFW => FAT
AA2495: BOS => DFW => LAX
AA303: LGA => ORD => SAN
AA1560: PHL => DFW => IAH
AA1273: TUL => DFW => RNO
AA2064: LGA => MIA => MCO
AA403: BWI => DFW => TUS
AA2465: MIA => DFW => LAX
AA1505: FLL => DFW => SAN
AA1630: SNA => DFW => FLL
AA885: DTW => DFW => MTY
AA2237: CMH => DFW => PSP
AA782: MCI => ORD => TPA
AA154: NRT => ORD => BOS
AA1825: TPA => MIA => LAS
AA517: SAT => DFW => SJC
AA1352: CLT => DFW => OKC
AA2412: LAX => DFW => MIA
AA702: SJU => MIA => LAX
AA2249: CMH => DFW => LAS
AA524: RNO => DFW => DTW
AA2222: PHX => DFW => ATL
AA1366: SJC => DFW => MEM
AA969: BNA => MIA => MGA
AA652: MCI => DFW => RIC
AA395: MIA => DFW => STL
AA1695: LIT => DFW => PHX
AA1292: SAT => DFW => MSY
AA703: MIA => ORD => STL
AA1665: MKE => DFW => SAN
AA1737: YUL => MIA => PUJ
AA1961: JAX => DFW => PDX
AA1626: SAT => DFW => BNA
AA1408: BNA => DFW => FLL
AA1156: LIT => DFW => DCA
AA829: SDF => DFW => COS
AA308: MSY => MIA => BDA
AA1415: DCA => DFW => SFO
AA1760: FAT => DFW => IND
AA679: MCI => DFW => ONT
AA886: SAT => DFW => DCA
AA1764: TPA => MIA => BWI
AA2137: SJU => MIA => CUN
AA1043: CLE => DFW => SAT
AA1490: AUS => DFW => OKC
AA1634: TUS => ORD => STL
AA1091: BWI => DFW => SAN
AA1476: SAN => DFW => DCA
AA1286: AUS => DFW => RIC
AA2426: DEN => ORD => YYZ
AA1204: TUL => DFW => RDU
AA2299: YUL => MIA => SKB
AA324: ELP => DFW => BNA
AA2048: IAD => DFW => LIT
AA2297: MCO => MIA => UVF
AA367: YYZ => DFW => CZM
AA2329: MSP => ORD => DFW
AA358: LAS => ORD => LGA
AA1694: COS => DFW => BNA
AA1806: AUS => JFK => BOS
AA1327: DFW => MIA => SJU
AA1716: BWI => DFW => MCI
AA1586: LAS => LAX => YYZ
AA1843: BOS => ORD => SEA
AA1070: AUS => DFW => STL
AA1907: DCA => MIA => ANU
AA1543: PIT => DFW => AUS
AA346: AUS => ORD => LGA
AA1247: BOS => ORD => LAX
AA1209: BNA => DFW => SMF
AA2192: PTY => MIA => BDL
AA922: MIA => VVI => VVI
AA2455: DTW => DFW => LAX
AA1869: MIA => ORD => STL
AA479: DFW => AUS => LAX
AA672: STT => MIA => DEN
AA1743: AUS => DFW => SNA
AA366: MCO => ORD => LGA
AA2407: DFW => LAX => SFO
AA1839: TUL => DFW => SAT
AA1870: EWR => DFW => OKC
AA1383: RDU => ORD => SEA
AA670: SAT => DFW => ICT
AA451: DCA => ORD => SFO
AA1358: LAX => ORD => BOS
AA323: SAT => DFW => PVR
AA430: DFW => STL => LGA
AA2459: MCO => DFW => LAX
AA558: LAS => DFW => EWR
AA539: BNA => DFW => LAS
AA1202: TUL => DFW => AUS
AA1064: MEX => DFW => DEN
AA802: SFO => DFW => YUL
AA1897: CLT => DFW => IAH
AA1180: LAS => DFW => RIC
AA644: PDX => DFW => CLT
AA511: STL => DFW => COS
AA1166: YYC => DFW => AUS
AA1856: SNA => DFW => MCO
AA586: ICT => DFW => CLE
AA1456: STX => MIA => DFW
AA1779: BDL => DFW => SNA
AA1720: SEA => DFW => IAD
AA1461: FLL => DFW => SFO
AA1575: TPA => DFW => SFO
AA2239: YYZ => MIA => GCM
AA1803: MSY => DFW => LAS
AA1834: TPA => MIA => IAD
AA2059: IND => DFW => SLC
AA305: LGA => ORD => TUS
AA2056: LAS => DFW => IAH
AA939: RDU => MIA => CUR
AA1001: RIC => DFW => IAH
AA463: BDL => DFW => SFO
AA375: DCA => DFW => ELP
AA1110: MEX => DFW => DEN
AA1667: TPA => DFW => SAT
AA488: SFO => DFW => YYZ
AA663: PHL => DFW => LAS
AA650: SAN => DFW => OKC
AA1308: LAS => LAX => AUS
AA1436: TUS => DFW => CLT
AA1361: MSY => DFW => COS
AA1032: SLC => DFW => MCI
AA492: MFE => DFW => STL
AA1216: MFE => DFW => MEM
AA1402: AUS => DFW => CLT
AA1660: OKC => DFW => IND
AA1924: AUS => DFW => MKE
AA1912: ONT => DFW => SDF
AA1875: MCO => DFW => PHX
AA1205: PHL => DFW => PHX
AA1113: SLC => DFW => AUS
AA1962: MCI => DFW => IAD
AA1241: MKE => DFW => DEN
AA1426: ATL => DFW => SAT
AA2341: DCA => ORD => DFW
AA512: PHX => DFW => IND
AA2022: ABQ => DFW => BNA
AA338: SJD => LAX => DFW
AA874: SEA => ORD => BOS
AA926: SAL => MIA => STL
AA2293: MSP => ORD => AUS
AA865: ELP => DFW => SJD
AA1826: BHM => DFW => ICT
AA409: DEN => DFW => MEX
AA1847: MCO => DFW => DEN
AA1074: PHX => DFW => ATL
AA849: ATL => DFW => OMA
AA1036: AUA => MIA => MCO
AA1085: ABQ => DFW => STL
AA810: SAN => ORD => DCA
AA1016: TUS => DFW => SAT
AA378: TPA => ORD => LGA
AA2127: YYZ => MIA => LIR
AA2035: PHL => MIA => KIN
AA936: CCS => MIA => JFK
AA1871: OKC => DFW => LAS
AA1428: SNA => DFW => TPA
AA1656: ELP => DFW => SDF
AA981: MSY => MIA => GUA
AA309: LGA => ORD => RSW
AA1729: OKC => DFW => SLC
AA1576: OMA => DFW => OKC
AA1035: JAX => DFW => SJC
AA2040: TPA => DFW => STL
hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by clacko
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Is there a list anywhere of two sector single number flights AA has and when those flights operate?

eg: AA2046 SEA-DFW-STL except Sunday from 21 Aug
AA874 SEA-ORD-BOS daily until Aug 20
etc
theres a bos-dfw-lax....

may i ask what your use of the list would be?
There are two uses that I can think of:

1. For international flights, one could have a "gateway" stopover at either of the two North American cities served by the flight; and

2. If redeeming BA Avios for award travel on AA, BA charges for each flight. Booking connecting flights, as opposed to a "direct" flight, will often result in paying more Avios for the award.
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There are two uses that I can think of:

1. For international flights, one could have a "gateway" stopover at either of the two North American cities served by the flight; and

2. If redeeming BA Avios for award travel on AA, BA charges for each flight. Booking connecting flights, as opposed to a "direct" flight, will often result in paying more Avios for the award.
thanks....might help if i can find a use for my adios [sic] mi....
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You could download the timetable and look for anything that shows more than 1 stop.

As for the mileage credit, I have called AAdvantage Customer Service and had them split it into separate segments.
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