Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Jun 5, 2020, 2:09 am
#91
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,828
I managed to find JFK-TOY on or about 20 February, connecting to KUL 17-odd hours later.
Is it normal for the multi-city tool to return results of all flights? By that I mean, am I only ever going to be able to see (in my case here) both flights together, rather than being able to chose which JFK-TOY flight I want in one step and then, in another step, which NRT-KUL flight I want? I recognise it's rather elementary in my case because there's only at most two flights a day JFK-TOK and one a day NRT-KUL but I'd be happy to extend my stay in TOK by a day or two if I could select that onward KUL flight separately.
Jun 5, 2020, 3:15 am
#92
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,194
Oh, I didn't know about the 31 March change.
I managed to find JFK-TOY on or about 20 February, connecting to KUL 17-odd hours later.
Is it normal for the multi-city tool to return results of all flights? By that I mean, am I only ever going to be able to see (in my case here) both flights together, rather than being able to chose which JFK-TOY flight I want in one step and then, in another step, which NRT-KUL flight I want? I recognise it's rather elementary in my case because there's only at most two flights a day JFK-TOK and one a day NRT-KUL but I'd be happy to extend my stay in TOK by a day or two if I could select that onward KUL flight separately.
I managed to find JFK-TOY on or about 20 February, connecting to KUL 17-odd hours later.
Is it normal for the multi-city tool to return results of all flights? By that I mean, am I only ever going to be able to see (in my case here) both flights together, rather than being able to chose which JFK-TOY flight I want in one step and then, in another step, which NRT-KUL flight I want? I recognise it's rather elementary in my case because there's only at most two flights a day JFK-TOK and one a day NRT-KUL but I'd be happy to extend my stay in TOK by a day or two if I could select that onward KUL flight separately.
It is quite easy to search multi-city, especially with US-Asia. The difficult flight is US-Japan on F. There is only one day with JFK-TYO on F on 19th in the whole Feburary. Many more on ORD-TYO, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 10th, 12th and 14th.
You can search NRT-KUL alone, with calendar view to see all the days with business class. If it is 25K, it is JL. 60K is SQ.
I would say you can select almost any day for NRT-KUL, except 13th.
Jun 5, 2020, 11:09 am
#93
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Is it normal for the multi-city tool to return results of all flights? By that I mean, am I only ever going to be able to see (in my case here) both flights together, rather than being able to chose which JFK-TOY flight I want in one step and then, in another step, which NRT-KUL flight I want? I recognise it's rather elementary in my case because there's only at most two flights a day JFK-TOK and one a day NRT-KUL but I'd be happy to extend my stay in TOK by a day or two if I could select that onward KUL flight separately.
James
Jun 5, 2020, 5:33 pm
#94
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: Alaska Gold 100k, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 230
Jun 5, 2020, 5:45 pm
#95
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: Alaska Gold 100k, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 230
Jun 5, 2020, 10:38 pm
#96
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,828
It is quite easy to search multi-city, especially with US-Asia. The difficult flight is US-Japan on F. There is only one day with JFK-TYO on F on 19th in the whole Feburary. Many more on ORD-TYO, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 10th, 12th and 14th.
You can search NRT-KUL alone, with calendar view to see all the days with business class. If it is 25K, it is JL. 60K is SQ.
I would say you can select almost any day for NRT-KUL, except 13th.
You can search NRT-KUL alone, with calendar view to see all the days with business class. If it is 25K, it is JL. 60K is SQ.
I would say you can select almost any day for NRT-KUL, except 13th.
If you want to bake in a longer stopover in TYO just specify what date you want to fly to KUL. If you want 3 days in TYO specify the date on the second leg as 3 days after arrival. (morning TPAC flights to Asia arrive +1 days, evening departures arrive +2 days) I have had stopovers of 2 months on CX (MEL-HKG Sep 7, HKG-LAX Nov 7) and 27 days in DXB on EK. (SFO-DXB-JNB) I also had an 11-day stopover in HKG between JFK & CPT and flew revenue to/from SYD in between. Stopovers can be good jumping off locations for other itineraies.
James
James
Jun 5, 2020, 10:41 pm
#97
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,284
Yep. Looks like NRT-KUL is no problem but only one option out of JFK, which I can't imagine will hang around for long.
I'm wondering now whether it's worth having more than a transit in Tokyo. With the 5pm arrival and then 11am departure, you end up arriving at your hotel in the evening and leaving again quite early. I might be better off looking for CX options instead.
I'm wondering now whether it's worth having more than a transit in Tokyo. With the 5pm arrival and then 11am departure, you end up arriving at your hotel in the evening and leaving again quite early. I might be better off looking for CX options instead.
Jun 5, 2020, 10:43 pm
#98
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,828
Is something like US-xTOK-KUL, KUL-xTOK-SIN doable on one award?
Jun 5, 2020, 10:46 pm
#99
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,284
Edit: To your question, no the stopover must be in the US or at the gateway
Jun 5, 2020, 10:54 pm
#101
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,284
Jun 6, 2020, 2:41 am
#102
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
James
Jun 7, 2020, 1:12 am
#103
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,828
That sole JFK-HND F seat that was there less than 24 hours ago has now disappeared as I wait for top-up points to come across from Marriott.