Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Jul 27, 2022, 9:26 am
#661
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Just called AS to cancel a flight that I booked yesterday (less than 24 hours) - agent states that the $12.50 USD booking fee and partner fee is not refundable even within 24 hours of booking, is this correct?
When I went to the cancel page on the website - the $ that says is refundable is only the taxes and other fees - doesn't include the $37.50 USD booking fee. Is this correct? Or should I call again?
Update - HUCA and got everything refunded
When I went to the cancel page on the website - the $ that says is refundable is only the taxes and other fees - doesn't include the $37.50 USD booking fee. Is this correct? Or should I call again?
Update - HUCA and got everything refunded
Jul 27, 2022, 10:39 am
#662
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YYC
Posts: 2,075
I booked a while ago an award SFO-HND-BKK in F/J. F has been dropped from the SFO-HND segment so JL automatically moved me to SFO-NRT to retain F (very kind of them), but obviously I can't do the airport transfer as a foreigner. There is no award availability on NRT-BKK on my date of travel, what are the chances AS would be able to ask JL to open up a spot to move me to that flight?
Jul 27, 2022, 12:48 pm
#663
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I booked a while ago an award SFO-HND-BKK in F/J. F has been dropped from the SFO-HND segment so JL automatically moved me to SFO-NRT to retain F (very kind of them), but obviously I can't do the airport transfer as a foreigner. There is no award availability on NRT-BKK on my date of travel, what are the chances AS would be able to ask JL to open up a spot to move me to that flight?
Jul 28, 2022, 7:04 am
#664
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: YYZ
Posts: 86
Is it correct that JAL only releases 2 J and 1 F on the ORD/JFK/BOS routes? I remember reading pre-covid, they were known to open last minute space, is that still the case now? I'm looking for 3 seats.
Jul 28, 2022, 3:30 pm
#665
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississippi
Programs: Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 159
found individual flights: 1.) SAN-NRT arriving 4:45pm in J and 2.) NRT-KUL departing 11:05am (giving me a 18 hr layover in NRT). Why will alaska's website allow me to book separately but not together? is there something wrong with routing or connection time that's not allowed? is this just a glitch on website and just needs a phone call?
Jul 28, 2022, 3:49 pm
#666
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 154
found individual flights: 1.) SAN-NRT arriving 4:45pm in J and 2.) NRT-KUL departing 11:05am (giving me a 18 hr layover in NRT). Why will alaska's website allow me to book separately but not together? is there something wrong with routing or connection time that's not allowed? is this just a glitch on website and just needs a phone call?
Last edited by Thichbay; Jul 28, 2022 at 4:03 pm
Jul 29, 2022, 11:24 am
#667
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Last minute F is still a thing. Last minute J not so much. My guess is this is because JAL now dynamically prices J awards for their own program so a lot of J can get taken by JAL members who are willing to pay more miles but those dynamically priced J awards are not available to partners. F awards still have the one price only via JMB and if they are not available there may be a waitlist but they are not available to be taken at any time by paying more miles like JMB J awards.
Jul 31, 2022, 7:32 pm
#668
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 199
EDIT: ended up calling 4 times and the 4th time they were able to process it. Cheers!
Last edited by dcht; Jul 31, 2022 at 10:47 pm
Jul 31, 2022, 8:25 pm
#669
Join Date: May 2012
Location: C6 and C3
Programs: *Gold, ST Elite, OW sapphire
Posts: 108
Can’t book hanoi nrt sea with 11hr50 same day layover in nrt
Payment screen says can’t confirm partner seats
dont think it’s phantom as baec shows seats
is it case of can’t book 8hr+ layover online and need to call?
Payment screen says can’t confirm partner seats
dont think it’s phantom as baec shows seats
is it case of can’t book 8hr+ layover online and need to call?
Last edited by pmdg7444; Jul 31, 2022 at 8:50 pm
Jul 31, 2022, 8:35 pm
#670
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 154
SGN-NRT is JL750 which land at ~4pm in NRT...how can you have 12hr same-day layover with that flight ?
Jul 31, 2022, 11:20 pm
#671
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,472
I’m based out of YYZ and since JAL doesn’t fly from here, does anyone have experience transiting from the cities that JAL flies from? Which one would be a better option? YVR, ORD or JFK. I was thinking YVR since that would eliminate US customs but ORD or JFK is closer.
Nobody flies direct to JFK from YYZ now that DL keeps cancelling that route, and they never flew it at particularly helpful times anyway in addition to it being expensive, so any JFK routing requires you to Uber LGA-JFK.
The JFK awards on ANA and JAL are considerably more competitive than ORD too.
Aug 5, 2022, 8:43 pm
#672
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 38
I have business class BKK-NRT-SEA-DEN booked JAL. First class space opened up on NRT-SFO that I would like to switch to. I called and asked the NRT-SEA to be switched to NRT-SFO and I will buy a separate ticket to get back to DEN.
I called and the agent spent ~20 minutes with the international desk and they came back and said it wasn't possible. Is this a HUCA situation or is this breaking a routing rule and not possible to do?
I called and the agent spent ~20 minutes with the international desk and they came back and said it wasn't possible. Is this a HUCA situation or is this breaking a routing rule and not possible to do?
Aug 5, 2022, 11:33 pm
#673
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
I have business class BKK-NRT-SEA-DEN booked JAL. First class space opened up on NRT-SFO that I would like to switch to. I called and asked the NRT-SEA to be switched to NRT-SFO and I will buy a separate ticket to get back to DEN.
I called and the agent spent ~20 minutes with the international desk and they came back and said it wasn't possible. Is this a HUCA situation or is this breaking a routing rule and not possible to do?
I called and the agent spent ~20 minutes with the international desk and they came back and said it wasn't possible. Is this a HUCA situation or is this breaking a routing rule and not possible to do?
Aug 7, 2022, 1:47 am
#674
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 154
Just upgrade from J to F (same flight same date) on my LAX-NRT segment (LAX-NRT-Asia). The issue is that we could NOT do it online using Change Reservation tool. AS website shows F availability on all date except my departure date. Called AS and ask for partner award desk. The agent told me she could not get the F seats to show up either and she would need to contact supervisor(?) to upgrade me. As I compulsively refreshed the reservation screen, I saw that they added the F seat to my reservation first then removed the J seat. New ticket issued and I was able to select F seat on JAL immediately. However, I don't see my award J seat go back to inventory and available to book.
I think a workaround for this is to upgrade to F to whatever date AS website allows and then change it back to the original departure date. However, I didn't have the courage to try that lol !
I think a workaround for this is to upgrade to F to whatever date AS website allows and then change it back to the original departure date. However, I didn't have the courage to try that lol !
Aug 7, 2022, 5:56 am
#675
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 561
Just upgrade from J to F (same flight same date) on my LAX-NRT segment (LAX-NRT-Asia). The issue is that we could NOT do it online using Change Reservation tool. AS website shows F availability on all date except my departure date. Called AS and ask for partner award desk. The agent told me she could not get the F seats to show up either and she would need to contact supervisor(?) to upgrade me. As I compulsively refreshed the reservation screen, I saw that they added the F seat to my reservation first then removed the J seat. New ticket issued and I was able to select F seat on JAL immediately. However, I don't see my award J seat go back to inventory and available to book.
I think a workaround for this is to upgrade to F to whatever date AS website allows and then change it back to the original departure date. However, I didn't have the courage to try that lol !
I think a workaround for this is to upgrade to F to whatever date AS website allows and then change it back to the original departure date. However, I didn't have the courage to try that lol !