2022 schedule updates - new/cancelled routes, frequency/equipment changes, etc
#361
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
LHR wasn't seamless connecting when I was there a week ago. Certainly not as bad as Pearson, but LHR doesn't seem to have the ability to totally avoid some form of a lineup when connecting international to international. There was a fairly long line for the security queue to make this kind of transfer (though not nearly as bad as the UK border).
#363
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BKK/SIN/YYZ/YUL
Programs: DL, AC, Bonvoy, Accor, Hilton
Posts: 2,923
BKK is is ridiculously expensive: YUL/YYZ -BKK RT J class using AC vi CDG or NRT hubs is pricing out $6000-$6400 at multiple OTAs (all AC flights or AC codeshare with TG).
AC prices the same itinerary at $9100 the RT from YVR is $7253. I will gladly take the transfer through ICN/NRT/ to save a few thousand $$.
It's smart that AC is adding routes to bypass the much hated China hub transfers, but the pricing isn't competitive.
AC prices the same itinerary at $9100 the RT from YVR is $7253. I will gladly take the transfer through ICN/NRT/ to save a few thousand $$.
It's smart that AC is adding routes to bypass the much hated China hub transfers, but the pricing isn't competitive.
#364
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,778
LHR wasn't seamless connecting when I was there a week ago. Certainly not as bad as Pearson, but LHR doesn't seem to have the ability to totally avoid some form of a lineup when connecting international to international. There was a fairly long line for the security queue to make this kind of transfer (though not nearly as bad as the UK border).
#365
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,428
I would think TPE will be back soon as quarantine (currently 3 days + test) is lifted. TPE govt suggests that they would remove all quarantine once their rates mirror other countries which may happen by next month. TPE currently allowing transit but most would not want to run that risk. I hope to visit in Oct assuming everything lefts by July/Aug and a business trip can actually be planned.
#366
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
BKK is is ridiculously expensive: YUL/YYZ -BKK RT J class using AC vi CDG or NRT hubs is pricing out $6000-$6400 at multiple OTAs (all AC flights or AC codeshare with TG).
AC prices the same itinerary at $9100 the RT from YVR is $7253. I will gladly take the transfer through ICN/NRT/ to save a few thousand $$.
It's smart that AC is adding routes to bypass the much hated China hub transfers, but the pricing isn't competitive.
AC prices the same itinerary at $9100 the RT from YVR is $7253. I will gladly take the transfer through ICN/NRT/ to save a few thousand $$.
It's smart that AC is adding routes to bypass the much hated China hub transfers, but the pricing isn't competitive.
#368
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: ZRH
Programs: AC SE 100K
Posts: 927
Frankly- concierge and AC have totally messed up on this one. Now - we are never entitled to the upgrades but I think there is an expectation that if a route is canceled, that reasonable attempts to accommodate previously confirmed upgrades would be made. What is most frustrating is that now I have spent already close to 6-8 hours on hold (SE lines) talking with people, talking with Concierge - and basically being told to take a refund if I don't like it.
I am not asking for much - I am not even asking for a very specific individual flight - I am fine to take flights (about 10 options over 2 days of departure times). I am ranting a bit but never ever have I had any issue getting these replaced. Every cancellation I have had (and being in Zurich - I can tell you there are many and almost every year) - that the upgrade was always accommodated if that was a reasonable request (i.e. J is 50% full).
Hoping to get this sorted in next week but tired of spending countless hours on this.
#369
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
My ZRH-YVR-ZRH was cancelled like all others . . but . . here I am more than 4 weeks later and I do not have replacement flights YVR-ZRH confirmed due to route controller not approving any upgrades - despite my total flexibility to change dates / routing . . but with the only stipulation - I don't get routed via YYZ/YUL (as the west coast departure times are too early for my schedule). I am SE and this is full-LAT fare.
Frankly- concierge and AC have totally messed up on this one. Now - we are never entitled to the upgrades but I think there is an expectation that if a route is canceled, that reasonable attempts to accommodate previously confirmed upgrades would be made. What is most frustrating is that now I have spent already close to 6-8 hours on hold (SE lines) talking with people, talking with Concierge - and basically being told to take a refund if I don't like it.
I am not asking for much - I am not even asking for a very specific individual flight - I am fine to take flights (about 10 options over 2 days of departure times). I am ranting a bit but never ever have I had any issue getting these replaced. Every cancellation I have had (and being in Zurich - I can tell you there are many and almost every year) - that the upgrade was always accommodated if that was a reasonable request (i.e. J is 50% full).
Hoping to get this sorted in next week but tired of spending countless hours on this.
Frankly- concierge and AC have totally messed up on this one. Now - we are never entitled to the upgrades but I think there is an expectation that if a route is canceled, that reasonable attempts to accommodate previously confirmed upgrades would be made. What is most frustrating is that now I have spent already close to 6-8 hours on hold (SE lines) talking with people, talking with Concierge - and basically being told to take a refund if I don't like it.
I am not asking for much - I am not even asking for a very specific individual flight - I am fine to take flights (about 10 options over 2 days of departure times). I am ranting a bit but never ever have I had any issue getting these replaced. Every cancellation I have had (and being in Zurich - I can tell you there are many and almost every year) - that the upgrade was always accommodated if that was a reasonable request (i.e. J is 50% full).
Hoping to get this sorted in next week but tired of spending countless hours on this.
#370
Join Date: May 2017
Location: YEG, SFO, VCA, JR JY-13
Programs: hahaha
Posts: 922
YVR-KIX from next June
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220622-acns23kix
From the successor of the airlineroute website that I think was previously considered reliable and cited often on the previous version of this thread
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220622-acns23kix
From the successor of the airlineroute website that I think was previously considered reliable and cited often on the previous version of this thread
#371
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,005
From the above website, YVR-HKG planned to go nonstop fromSept 7.
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220622-acsep22hkg
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220622-acsep22hkg
#372
Join Date: May 2017
Location: YEG, SFO, VCA, JR JY-13
Programs: hahaha
Posts: 922
Oh man, HKG-YVR reverting to a 9am departure broke my inbound connections. That really sucks
#374
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Cape Cod
Programs: UA, JB, AA, DL
Posts: 20
Massive layovers
We are flying BOS to MXP and chose AC as their PE fares were cheap. Our trip is in Nov. Flight times have changed many times but they then changed our dates which greatly impact our trip. We moved things around but now have 4 and 3 hour layovers in YUL. Do you think they might add BOS flights before Nov.? I'd almost rather drive home vs sit and wait. Anything fun to do in YUL. Might get a massage
#375
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC 50K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 1,551
We are flying BOS to MXP and chose AC as their PE fares were cheap. Our trip is in Nov. Flight times have changed many times but they then changed our dates which greatly impact our trip. We moved things around but now have 4 and 3 hour layovers in YUL. Do you think they might add BOS flights before Nov.? I'd almost rather drive home vs sit and wait. Anything fun to do in YUL. Might get a massage