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Old Mar 12, 2019, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Read below for more details.

Air Canada Timetable Effective June 27, 2019 to September 29, 2019 (AC's link: https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf)
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May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.

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March 19, 2019

UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES


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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

March 19, 2019

If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance

In compliance with Transport Canada’s safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.

Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: “What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?”. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.

If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.


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March 13, 2019

Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.

If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.

We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.

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If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).

If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..

How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.

How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.

We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.

As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.

What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.

If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.

We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.

Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.

If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.

We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.

We thank all of our customers for their patience.

Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.



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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.

Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.

We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.


SOURCE Air Canada

For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montréal), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft




https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. John’s-London service

March 12, 2019

Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:

AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. John’s-London on March 13
AC823London-St. John’s on March 14

We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.

Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.

As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers’ patience.

Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by After Burner
Haven't seen this posted but Hawaii appears to be another casualty of the MAX8 grounding. Starting April 1 the YVR-OGG route is back to rouge.
Yes, and as friends found in travelling back next week from OGG, there's a forced overnight as 1718 arrives YVR @ 2150 which is too late to connect onward to YEG. Luckily they have insurance so are staying at the Fairmont YVR.
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Haven't seen this posted but Hawaii appears to be another casualty of the MAX8 grounding. Starting April 1 the YVR-OGG route is back to rouge.

I'm now starting to question the wisdom of buying flight passes.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I do prefer the Rouge 767 over the 7M8 in J. My last OGG-YVR overnight on 7M8 felt like forever... Although spending the sunset at the Wailea's pool, followed by a great dinner and showing up in time for work the next morning was very nice
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New Timetable Published Eff. April 11 to July 14, 2019

New Timetable Published Eff. April 11 to July 14, 2019

Same URL, wiki slightly updated to reflect new timetable dates... (previous was end of March to end of June)

https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf
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April 2, 2019 Update

April 2, 2019 Update

Some additional information from the previous March 19, 2019 Travel News & Updates...

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and June 30, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
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The daytime YYZ-LHR AC868 is back May 1st.
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The daytime YYZ-LHR AC868 is back May 1st.
Yep!
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Old Apr 2, 2019, 9:49 pm
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New Timetable Published Eff. April 11 to July 14, 2019

Same URL, wiki slightly updated to reflect new timetable dates... (previous was end of March to end of June)

https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf
The link does not work. Gave error 500 in both English and French.
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The link does not work. Gave error 500 in both English and French.
AC did something tonight to that link. That was the official URL for the pdf Timetable for the last while.

I'll see if I can post what I downloaded earlier (the latest timetable I reference) from that URL.
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Latest timetable posted on DocDroid

@Happy and others... I modified the filename to reflect the effective dates... will update wiki with this.

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So how long can AC let their LHR slots used for the YHZ and YYT flights sit idle before they are at risk of losing them?
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Originally Posted by Happy
The link does not work. Gave error 500 in both English and French.
Originally Posted by yyznomad
AC did something tonight to that link. That was the official URL for the pdf Timetable for the last while.

I'll see if I can post what I downloaded earlier (the latest timetable I reference) from that URL.
Originally Posted by yyznomad
@Happy and others... I modified the filename to reflect the effective dates... will update wiki with this.

https://docdro.id/78jUeSm

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FYI... the original link is working again... at least for now.
https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf
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FYI... the original link is working again... at least for now.
https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf
Thanks a lot for fixing it.

Late last night when the link finally worked, I took a quick look and saw that our AC 172 YEG-YYZ in the PDF still is NOT operating on May 10. In fact it does not operate the whole month of May... Apr 29 was the last date from last night's read, Bow it changed to end on Apr 27 then it resumes in June!

The current 16:00 departure will stop operating on Apr 11. We will leave home for Japan on Apr 8 and be in Japan thru Apr 18 being on land, then start back to back cruise Apr 19 with the TPAC crossing to Vancouver on May 10, the date we are scheduled to fly,..

How fun to deal with this when in Japan. I dont even think it is possible.

The flight still shows it up fine on the site, can be bought with $. Our reservation remains intact, for now.

SIGH

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Old Apr 3, 2019, 12:01 pm
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Thanks a lot for fixing it.
I don't work for AC IT, but you're welcome?


Originally Posted by Happy

Want to bet there would be another revision coming up soon?
I wouldn't be surprised, at the very least.
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I don't work for AC IT, but you're welcome?

I wouldn't be surprised, at the very least.
I believe someone has posted another way to check schedule, which is using the website itself, not thru PDF.

IIRC the website has conflicting info to the PDF. Do you know the website link? TIA!

Edit
Find it.
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...schedules.html

Indeed the AC172 no longer exists. AC 1576 the Rouge is put in its place. I guess we would be auto-rebooked to that when the actual schedule is up to speed. Right now we are still on the non-existent flight.

Edit 2:
Amazingly, while AC site still shows our reservation with the no longer existing AC172, UA has already shown the flight is now changed to t AC1576 the Rouge. Once I accepted the change, the Receipt now shows the new flight number and aircraft from A320 to 767. Though the ticket number remains the same as before.

I am not sure if we still need new tickets to reflect the new flight number?

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