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Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Read below for more details.

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May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.

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March 19, 2019

UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES


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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

March 19, 2019

If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance

In compliance with Transport Canada’s safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.

Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: “What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?”. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.

If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.


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March 13, 2019

Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.

If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.

We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.

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If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).

If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..

How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.

How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.

We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.

As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.

What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.

If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.

We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.

Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.

If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.

We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.

We thank all of our customers for their patience.

Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.



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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.

Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.

We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.


SOURCE Air Canada

For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montréal), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft




https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. John’s-London service

March 12, 2019

Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:

AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. John’s-London on March 13
AC823London-St. John’s on March 14

We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.

Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.

As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers’ patience.

Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 1:31 am
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I have a flight from Yyj to ogg.....it was supposed to be on a 737 max. I called air Canada today to see if they can reschedule my flight....to my surprise, they scheduled me on Alaskan and Hawaiian Airlines ..way back is Alaska. Great service with air canada! I did have to wait about an hour to get through.....Hope this helps other people trying to rebook their flights!

i looked beforehand to see the flights I wanted and if you let them know what ones you want, they will accommodate.
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 5:49 am
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I have a flight from Yyj to ogg.....it was supposed to be on a 737 max. I called air Canada today to see if they can reschedule my flight....to my surprise, they scheduled me on Alaskan and Hawaiian Airlines ..way back is Alaska. Great service with air canada! I did have to wait about an hour to get through.....Hope this helps other people trying to rebook their flights!

i looked beforehand to see the flights I wanted and if you let them know what ones you want, they will accommodate.
When is your flight?
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 11:03 am
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So I need to fly back from Toronto to Calgary on the 31st (Sunday) and basically only business class is available - and at $3,200 o/w... Cheapest 1 stop with travel time of 16 hours is $900... Geez.
Are you E75K or higher? If so, you can force (full) Y availability.
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by skybluesea
which will mean someone gets bumped- I recall a long debate about this - maybe IDB Thread?
No, it does not mean that.

If a flight is J3 Y0, and you buy a Y seat, it goes to J2 Y0.

Either someone was going to get bumped regardless, or someone was not going to get bumped regardless.
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Edmonton travellers still delayed due to grounded 737 Max planes

Air Canada not offering compensation, says delays are beyond its control

Josee St-Onge · CBC News · Posted: Mar 22, 2019 6:00 AM MT Last Updated: an hour ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...lays-1.5066853
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Edmonton travellers still delayed due to grounded 737 Max planes

Air Canada not offering compensation, says delays are beyond its control

Josee St-Onge · CBC News · Posted: Mar 22, 2019 6:00 AM MT Last Updated: an hour ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...lays-1.5066853
Regardless, there would not be grounds for compensation anyway.
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 12:23 pm
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AC and WS don’t interline because they don’t want to. Plane and simple. There is no technical limitation that would prevent it as WS uses Sabre and interlines with other carriers.

That being said, AC can rebook you on WS. But they have to do it via GDS and issue a WS ticket (essentially buying the ticket for you). So they generally prefer not to do this.
Yes, I decided to take the refund and book directly with WS.
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On YHZ Departure Board for March 23

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That's a codeshares for AC 860, which I'm pretty sure isn't flying today.
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I have a flight to Australia in October with Air Canada and Qantas. I fly from YUL to LAX with Air Canada on the Max 8 and then from LAX to MEL with Qantas. Ticket was issued by Qantas but purchased on FlightHub. Qantas is saying my flight can be changed but to do it through FlightHub but FlightHub is saying they can't do anything until Qantas changes my itinerary. Very confusing..
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At this point, AC has removed the MAX 8 from the schedule only until July. Lots can happen between now and October. It's unlikely that you'll be able to make a change unless/until the flight cancels.
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I have a flight to Australia in October with Air Canada and Qantas. I fly from YUL to LAX with Air Canada on the Max 8 and then from LAX to MEL with Qantas. Ticket was issued by Qantas but purchased on FlightHub. Qantas is saying my flight can be changed but to do it through FlightHub but FlightHub is saying they can't do anything until Qantas changes my itinerary. Very confusing..
As cedric noted, way too early to worry about this. Come back in 6 months lol. But if you do end up needing to make a change, your decision to book thru a 3rd party is definitely going to make your life more complicated. Always best to buy directly from the airline instead of getting bounced back and forth.
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Originally Posted by skybluesea


”Always” means you are suggesting every travel agent physical or virtual should disappear - unrealistic IMHO.

btw...that would apply to Aeroplan too who is simply travel agent using a non-cash payment method with preferential supply access.

and let’s not blame travel agents for messed up AC as service supplier - let’s not forget AC is trying to avoid issuing mass refund for funds already in their bank. 1st quarter usually worst for airlines cash flow wise, so for AC to triggeri large volume of cancellations based on Tariff right and then issue refunds could cause AC bankers some discomfort especially with possible declines in economy and unstable fuel futures.

Stuff happens so AC either step-up and get seats reallocated quick or send back the money so clients can make new travel decisions.


Relax! I'm not blaming travel agents or anybody else. I'm trying to provide helpful advice, not here to assign blame. I don't think the travel agent is at fault but I do think it's likely to complicate OP's rebooking, should that become necessary. Ok fine, "always" was a poor word choice. I think most people understood the intended meaning
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