May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Aug 30, 2016, 6:39 pm
#6661
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Programs: SE100K - Air Canada, WestJet Gold
Posts: 144
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ada-rouge.html
"Premium services (similar to mainline Premium Economy):"
Aug 30, 2016, 6:48 pm
#6662
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
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According to AC.
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ada-rouge.html
"Premium services (similar to mainline Premium Economy):"
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ada-rouge.html
"Premium services (similar to mainline Premium Economy):"
RIGHT ABOVE THAT it says "Premium rouge to European Destinations"
Last I checked, Las Vegas is NOT in Europe.
In fact...
Premium rouge to North America and Sun Destinations
Premium services (similar to mainline Business Class):
Premium services (similar to mainline Business Class):
Aug 30, 2016, 6:51 pm
#6663
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The question is whether or not you do.
@cc:
How do you know where he flew? It was never mentioned. He mentioned a second Rouge flight where he was flying to LAS, but he never mentioned where the flight he was on where he saw a decline in service was headed to/from.
While it is obviously better than Y, its a lot less than where it should be I got opup to Rouge J two weeks back and I have flown in Rouge J (767) before. I thought the service level was lower (might be just that crew), food was not great, drink service was poor, seats were uncomfortable.
How do you know where he flew? It was never mentioned. He mentioned a second Rouge flight where he was flying to LAS, but he never mentioned where the flight he was on where he saw a decline in service was headed to/from.
Aug 30, 2016, 6:54 pm
#6664
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If he was in J on the 767, it was within North America.
Aug 30, 2016, 6:59 pm
#6665
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 5,956
Well.. time to grab more popcorn. :P
Aug 30, 2016, 7:01 pm
#6666
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YEG
Programs: AC Lifetime SE100K, 3MM, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hertz PC, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,901
I know that not many, if any, people have flown Rouge NA more than I. Admittedly, I have only flown Rouge Y twice, but in J about 40 times a year. I can tell you that I don't notice a whole lot of difference between Rouge J and Mainline J on an Airbus. The colour is different, the uniforms are different, and the meal selection is a little smaller. Of course, the IFE is on an iPad instead of a monitor affixed to the back of the seat ahead. Aside from that, there really isn't much difference. I'm not that picky when I fly, and each person will have their own experience. Mine is from the standpoint of many flights. They do offer water or juice prior to taxi and, if you go to the MLL, prior to boarding as well. Of course, that is not to say that it's impossible for someone to neglect that part of the in-plane experience.
Aug 30, 2016, 7:02 pm
#6667
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,428
My previous flight in Rouge J was PUJ-YYZ. Also marketed as business class. On AC website, select the business class fare and see what the window says. It only mentions business class lowest - no where is it described as premium economy
Last edited by vernonc; Aug 30, 2016 at 10:35 pm
Aug 30, 2016, 8:00 pm
#6668
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: YOW/HBA
Programs: Qantas Silver, MileagePlus Silver
Posts: 418
On my YYZ-LAS flight last Wednesday a Rouge flight attendant was doing their final check before decent/landing, walking towards the front of the cabin. Now this is routine for all airlines. What wasn't routine is that he was still walking to the front of the plane while it landed. 
Aug 30, 2016, 10:44 pm
#6669
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Spatially speaking or metaphysically speaking?
Programs: Aeropain: Zirconia Status; Altitude: Marianas Trench Status; UA MP: 1 Kick to the curb status
Posts: 623
Aug 30, 2016, 11:15 pm
#6670
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ, MNL, WAW
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Lifetime Plat, (now an AC nobody)
Posts: 1,978
Aug 30, 2016, 11:56 pm
#6671
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,428
https://altitude.aircanada.com/static/pdf/2016_EN.pdf
Aug 31, 2016, 12:02 am
#6672
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ, MNL, WAW
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Lifetime Plat, (now an AC nobody)
Posts: 1,978
Preferred seats are not free for a cheap Tango fare for E75. Only for SE. If I am mistaken, AC owes me $50.
https://altitude.aircanada.com/static/pdf/2016_EN.pdf
https://altitude.aircanada.com/static/pdf/2016_EN.pdf
Aug 31, 2016, 12:57 pm
#6673
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Just flew YVR-DUB, as an SE picked the preferred seats free, while not worth $100+ each way (I'm not sure it would ever be, same with UA, I just kinda refuse to pay for it) the flight was quite pleasant.
My only beef was no free booze, everything else was fine.
Now that there's power outlets at least on the 67's it doesn't leave you totally screwed. The entertainment was still a little bit sparse, not sure why, since it's just a streaming service you'd think they'd have more, but I slept, had my own entertainment and watched something on their service.
One other minor complaint, they seemed to take forever to clear the tray tables. Sometimes I find that I'm not even done eating before the FAs try and clear the tables, but in this case literally everyone within eyeshot was long done before they cleaned the tables. Don't think they ever really did a 2nd drink service, I probably could've ordered another one, but when they came back it was strictly for water or tea.
My only beef was no free booze, everything else was fine.
Now that there's power outlets at least on the 67's it doesn't leave you totally screwed. The entertainment was still a little bit sparse, not sure why, since it's just a streaming service you'd think they'd have more, but I slept, had my own entertainment and watched something on their service.
One other minor complaint, they seemed to take forever to clear the tray tables. Sometimes I find that I'm not even done eating before the FAs try and clear the tables, but in this case literally everyone within eyeshot was long done before they cleaned the tables. Don't think they ever really did a 2nd drink service, I probably could've ordered another one, but when they came back it was strictly for water or tea.
Aug 31, 2016, 2:33 pm
#6675
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: LON/GLA
Programs: AC E35/BA Bronze
Posts: 28
Just flew YVR-DUB, as an SE picked the preferred seats free, while not worth $100+ each way (I'm not sure it would ever be, same with UA, I just kinda refuse to pay for it) the flight was quite pleasant.
My only beef was no free booze, everything else was fine.
Now that there's power outlets at least on the 67's it doesn't leave you totally screwed. The entertainment was still a little bit sparse, not sure why, since it's just a streaming service you'd think they'd have more, but I slept, had my own entertainment and watched something on their service.
One other minor complaint, they seemed to take forever to clear the tray tables. Sometimes I find that I'm not even done eating before the FAs try and clear the tables, but in this case literally everyone within eyeshot was long done before they cleaned the tables. Don't think they ever really did a 2nd drink service, I probably could've ordered another one, but when they came back it was strictly for water or tea.
My only beef was no free booze, everything else was fine.
Now that there's power outlets at least on the 67's it doesn't leave you totally screwed. The entertainment was still a little bit sparse, not sure why, since it's just a streaming service you'd think they'd have more, but I slept, had my own entertainment and watched something on their service.
One other minor complaint, they seemed to take forever to clear the tray tables. Sometimes I find that I'm not even done eating before the FAs try and clear the tables, but in this case literally everyone within eyeshot was long done before they cleaned the tables. Don't think they ever really did a 2nd drink service, I probably could've ordered another one, but when they came back it was strictly for water or tea.
Does anyone have any idea if the food in PY is good? Bad? Cheap and cheerful? I don't see many reviews of that anywhere, again just need to know if I should warn Mrs. YXX to bring additional munchies for the flight.