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Old May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
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Flights operated by Air Canada rouge

NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087

Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.

All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.

Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.

Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR

*Seasonal Summer Service

YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)

USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)

Mexico
CUN PVR SJD

Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)

Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW

Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY

YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA

Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)

Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP

Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE

Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)

Africa
CMN

YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)

USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)

YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)

Mexico
CUN PVR

Asia
KIX

Europe
DUB LGA KEF


What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
I don't think so. There was nothing in the news that I can recall.
I am sure I read a news article somewhere about a AC exec 'musing' about changes as they would like to expand Rouge as it was proving to be profitable. Might have been a question/response on a earnings call but I cannot be sure.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by jc94
I said should. My issue is I doubt AC will, at least not pro-actively which is what seems to have happened...



Given the majority of the population lives in the south, the option is flying over the border which also saves taxes. I've flown UA F (dom) before taking a stop in EWR because it was cheaper than AC Y, and I know I'm not alone.

I've flown almost 100% AC this year, spending a few extra $ to ensure I hit status. Irony is next year I'm probably only flying 10k miles so I won't get to use much from status and definitely won't make it again.
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Dom flying there is basically little option. There are options for international/US flights. With US flight, Rouge preferred seats equal US airlines and I value my time to fly direct. Internationally, Rouge J is not good going to Europe, works coming home. Preferred Y on 767 are ok. Why add extra time to fly basically same seat.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
Internationally, Rouge J is not good going to Europe, works coming home.
Internationally, there is no rouge J.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Internationally, there is no rouge J.
I know, that is why I called it Rouge J. I should have put in"" "". But it 4 am and I'm half asleep.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by vernonc
I am sure I read a news article somewhere about a AC exec 'musing' about changes as they would like to expand Rouge as it was proving to be profitable. Might have been a question/response on a earnings call but I cannot be sure.
It was Calin Rovinescu in the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle31197873/
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
I know, that is why I called it Rouge J. I should have put in"" "". But it 4 am and I'm half asleep.
Or, you know, call it what it is: PY.

Otherwise, it's like saying I flew AC 787 F. Don't worry, I know it's not real F, or even marketed as F, but that's why I added "AC 787"
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
Dom flying there is basically little option. There are options for international/US flights. With US flight, Rouge preferred seats equal US airlines and I value my time to fly direct. Internationally, Rouge J is not good going to Europe, works coming home. Preferred Y on 767 are ok. Why add extra time to fly basically same seat.
WJ.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Or, you know, call it what it is: PY.

Otherwise, it's like saying I flew AC 787 F. Don't worry, I know it's not real F, or even marketed as F, but that's why I added "AC 787"
I would say calling a 787 J first is different. Even AC calls this cabin J sometimes.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
I would say calling a 787 J first is different. Even AC calls this cabin J sometimes.
Only in North America.

International Business Class involves a lie-flat seat.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jc94
WJ.
Basically the same thing as Rouge without the benefits/hot food and a real FF program.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by jc94
WJ.
Air Labrador? Really????
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
It was Calin Rovinescu in the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle31197873/
Thanks
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by jaysona
Air Labrador? Really????
My bad, I meant WS.

Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
Basically the same thing as Rouge without the benefits/hot food and a real FF program.
Assuming you mean WS (though it applies to both), but yes true.

My main WJ issues are having kids board before their preferred service, how I apparently get 2x23kg suitcases but 1x25kg suitcase caused chaos, the seat was too small, and the food sucked.

Now all that said, it was cheaper than AC. While I flew AC the next time, many will not.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by folkart
Just flew YYZ-BOG today, mainline in 767 with old pods. I'm not sure when it's changing to Rouge.
Looking on ac.com it appears that the switch to Rouge is taking place effective Oct 13.
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Only in North America.

International Business Class involves a lie-flat seat.
Lie flats on 787/777^ vs A330 vs B763
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