May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Dec 15, 2014, 12:44 pm
#4216
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC MM SE; SPG Plat; Hilton Gold
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I have recently taken 2 return rouge flights YOW to Punta Canna -- via YYZ and YUL. Went on points. sat in row 1 -- which is in the premium section I gather. For the first flight, after I read several posts in this thread ( and also listened to complaints from my dentist about rouge), I was quite apprehensive. But the flights were fine, the crew friendly and even cool, the wine and pizza I bought was ok and I had good trips. Not as good as J for sure, but certainly ok for a short flight of about 4 hrs. So as is often the case on FT there are exaggerations about problems.
Dec 15, 2014, 1:11 pm
#4218
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Perhaps you missed the details in posted trip reports on FT.
Or these
http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/air_canrge.htm
The point is, most have reported poor to miserable experiences, and what you might think is an exaggeration was a painful experience by someone else.
Or these
http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/air_canrge.htm
The point is, most have reported poor to miserable experiences, and what you might think is an exaggeration was a painful experience by someone else.
Dec 15, 2014, 1:46 pm
#4219
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,314
I have recently taken 2 return rouge flights YOW to Punta Canna -- via YYZ and YUL. Went on points. sat in row 1 -- which is in the premium section I gather. For the first flight, after I read several posts in this thread ( and also listened to complaints from my dentist about rouge), I was quite apprehensive. But the flights were fine, the crew friendly and even cool, the wine and pizza I bought was ok and I had good trips. Not as good as J for sure, but certainly ok for a short flight of about 4 hrs. So as is often the case on FT there are exaggerations about problems.
I guess its FT exxageration here too??
http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/air_canrge.htm
Where rouge is ranked the worst airline in the world, worse than Spirit or Ryanair, with a score of 2.0 (only because you cant give a zero)
Dec 15, 2014, 2:10 pm
#4220
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
Also, I fail to see why it is only because you can't give a zero. What would change if you could - it would then have 1/10, still not 0/10. Still the worst score on the site. And then you'd say it would only be because you can't give it a negative score - etc etc etc.
I continue to be amazed from the sidelines how those who say they will never ever step foot on Rouge (or step foot on it again) have to comment on absolutely every thread about Rouge. Evidently, the bitter will be sure they are heard.
If AC is so critical even those who don't fly Rouge have an opinion - maybe the GoC was right in declaring AC an essential service
lol just kidding.
Dec 15, 2014, 2:11 pm
#4221
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 394
I have recently taken 2 return rouge flights YOW to Punta Canna -- via YYZ and YUL. Went on points. sat in row 1 -- which is in the premium section I gather. For the first flight, after I read several posts in this thread ( and also listened to complaints from my dentist about rouge), I was quite apprehensive. But the flights were fine, the crew friendly and even cool, the wine and pizza I bought was ok and I had good trips. Not as good as J for sure, but certainly ok for a short flight of about 4 hrs. So as is often the case on FT there are exaggerations about problems.
That's comparing apples and oranges.
Dec 15, 2014, 2:23 pm
#4222
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
Seems like we would have read about it before in this 300-page thread but I can't remember seeing this Skytrax stat. It's kind of a big deal.
Dec 15, 2014, 2:31 pm
#4223
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Is this verified? I mean, have you personally checked the Skytrax website to confirm or are you just taking another poster's word for it?
Seems like we would have read about it before in this 300-page thread but I can't remember seeing this Skytrax stat. It's kind of a big deal.
Seems like we would have read about it before in this 300-page thread but I can't remember seeing this Skytrax stat. It's kind of a big deal.
http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/seats.htm
Rouge 2.0
Ryanair 3.5
Sprit 3.0
Cubana 3.6
WizzAir 4.0
Air Asia and EasyJet 6.8 - showing that low cost can have good reviews.
edit: found one! - LIAT at 2.0, just as bad as Rouge
Since AC loves to flaunt their (questionable) 4* SkyTrax status, to balance that, we have the opinions of real people doing Skytrax reviews
Dec 15, 2014, 2:37 pm
#4224
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Is this verified? I mean, have you personally checked the Skytrax website to confirm or are you just taking another poster's word for it?
Seems like we would have read about it before in this 300-page thread but I can't remember seeing this Skytrax stat. It's kind of a big deal.
Seems like we would have read about it before in this 300-page thread but I can't remember seeing this Skytrax stat. It's kind of a big deal.
I included the Skytrax link in my post above $4218 and so did rankourablu in #4219 and it was mentioned at least once or twice by others deep in this thread of 4000+ posts
The question really is: FT readers aside, and perhaps ignoring the almost 500 posts on the Skytrax page, how may other pax have done the "she told 2 friends, and they told 2 friends" and so on thing?
Last edited by 24left; Dec 15, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Dec 15, 2014, 2:37 pm
#4225
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Brisbane, QLD
Programs: VA Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 363
Should I be worried about being rouged on YYC - OGG this April?!?
Those reviews are almost universally appalling.
Those reviews are almost universally appalling.
Dec 15, 2014, 2:38 pm
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Dec 15, 2014, 2:40 pm
#4227
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Dec 15, 2014, 2:48 pm
#4228
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 394
It's the "rouging" of routes that makes me want to avoid Air Canada more and more. Even though I actually like the mainline airline, I am always worried about being rouged. I'm considering if I should stop collecting Aeroplan points (even though they have saved me thousands in Business seats to and from Europe) because of the possibility my route will be rouged after tickets have been bought.
Dec 15, 2014, 2:48 pm
#4229
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Dec 15, 2014, 2:51 pm
#4230
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We were in Y to SRQ. We will not do that again. Period.
You can always read the FT Rouge trip report thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ck-thread.html