DYKWIA - The 2017 thread
Aug 10, 2017, 2:31 am
#781
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Not exactly justifying, rather exploring more credible explanations for the behaviour.
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
When I checked in at Ryanair's premium baggage-check counter (
) at Schoenefeld, a causasian woman was quick to line up behind me, but got shooed away by a queue comber. I don't for one moment think she was hoping to pass herself off as my family member or colleague - she'd simply followed my example of joining a very short queue.
To my shame I was turned back at the desk: I'd misunderstand the priority notice on my boarding pass - my very own DYKWIA moment followed by a walk to the back of a very, very long queue (where I finished up half a dozen persons behind the caucasian lady).
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
When I checked in at Ryanair's premium baggage-check counter (
) at Schoenefeld, a causasian woman was quick to line up behind me, but got shooed away by a queue comber. I don't for one moment think she was hoping to pass herself off as my family member or colleague - she'd simply followed my example of joining a very short queue.To my shame I was turned back at the desk: I'd misunderstand the priority notice on my boarding pass - my very own DYKWIA moment followed by a walk to the back of a very, very long queue (where I finished up half a dozen persons behind the caucasian lady).
I consider it a social service!
If it was some 20 year old with a hoodie and listening to rap music over his Bose Noice Cancelling Headphones, I would probably not give him the same treatment = )
Aug 10, 2017, 2:37 am
#782
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Not exactly justifying, rather exploring more credible explanations for the behaviour.
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
When I checked in at Ryanair's premium baggage-check counter () at Schoenefeld, a causasian woman was quick to line up behind me, but got shooed away by a queue comber. I don't for one moment think she was hoping to pass herself off as my family member or colleague - she'd simply followed my example of joining a very short queue.
To my shame I was turned back at the desk: I'd misunderstand the priority notice on my boarding pass - my very own DYKWIA moment followed by a walk to the back of a very, very long queue (where I finished up half a dozen persons behind the caucasian lady).
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
When I checked in at Ryanair's premium baggage-check counter (
) at Schoenefeld, a causasian woman was quick to line up behind me, but got shooed away by a queue comber. I don't for one moment think she was hoping to pass herself off as my family member or colleague - she'd simply followed my example of joining a very short queue.To my shame I was turned back at the desk: I'd misunderstand the priority notice on my boarding pass - my very own DYKWIA moment followed by a walk to the back of a very, very long queue (where I finished up half a dozen persons behind the caucasian lady).
Other than that the OP just reports what happened, and you have to accept the OP was there and we were not. Seems very strange behaviour from the DYKWIA at the very least.
Aug 10, 2017, 3:03 am
#783
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This is a dual story of some DYKWIA behaviour I witnessed, and my unfortunate failure to out-DYKWIA that behaviour. I hope by posting this I can at least partially rectify the latter ;-)
So earlier this year whilst in a queue to pick up a rental car from somewhere in Europe that I cannot even remember, a haughty entitled type worked her way up towards the front of the queue where I was patiently waiting for my turn and in a loud voice that only a British lady of a certain age can really pull off, asked each person waiting “Are you Preferred?”, presumably hoping that she could simply skip the line. I suppose that technically this might be correct, but sticking it to people who are patiently queuing always makes me feel rather uncomfortable, so I would rather wait if there is not a separate line. When she got to me I confirmed that I was actually Preferred, which clearly disappointed and confused her, and indeed caused some minor flapping, but did at least stop the relentless queue-jumping.
It was only ages later when I was well on the road that I remembered that I was in fact Avis Preferred Plus, the next tier up, and how wonderful it would have been to have said that at the time despite the obvious DYKWIA-ness. It was one of those ‘of what might have been’ moments, and I greatly regret missing out on what her reaction to that might have been.
So earlier this year whilst in a queue to pick up a rental car from somewhere in Europe that I cannot even remember, a haughty entitled type worked her way up towards the front of the queue where I was patiently waiting for my turn and in a loud voice that only a British lady of a certain age can really pull off, asked each person waiting “Are you Preferred?”, presumably hoping that she could simply skip the line. I suppose that technically this might be correct, but sticking it to people who are patiently queuing always makes me feel rather uncomfortable, so I would rather wait if there is not a separate line. When she got to me I confirmed that I was actually Preferred, which clearly disappointed and confused her, and indeed caused some minor flapping, but did at least stop the relentless queue-jumping.
It was only ages later when I was well on the road that I remembered that I was in fact Avis Preferred Plus, the next tier up, and how wonderful it would have been to have said that at the time despite the obvious DYKWIA-ness. It was one of those ‘of what might have been’ moments, and I greatly regret missing out on what her reaction to that might have been.
Last edited by snuffi; Aug 11, 2017 at 6:24 am
Aug 10, 2017, 3:11 am
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Aug 10, 2017, 3:20 am
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I think priority luggage is only for the Business Plus tickets on FR... Which can be priced around normal seat, extra legroom, and luggage in the hold...
Aug 10, 2017, 3:46 am
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To be fair the OP did not use the phrase "crafty Asians", and frankly I don't see any suggestion the DYKWIA's race had any specific relationship to the DYKWIA's behaviour - it was mentioned as the OP himself is Asian and that the DYKWIA perhaps moved towards him because of it.
Other than that the OP just reports what happened, and you have to accept the OP was there and we were not. Seems very strange behaviour from the DYKWIA at the very least.
Other than that the OP just reports what happened, and you have to accept the OP was there and we were not. Seems very strange behaviour from the DYKWIA at the very least.
Aug 10, 2017, 3:53 am
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The priority boarding could be an invitation to DYKWIA flare ups. Gates have their own immigration desks for passport checks before getting into the gate lounge. Queues can build up, especially if the flight is delayed. EasyJet has a notice inviting their priority passengers to move to the head of the queue. One brave soul attempted this at the next gate and got into a pretty nasty shouting match with non-prority people at the head of the line. Nasty enough to force him to back down and relinquish his position.
Aug 10, 2017, 5:12 am
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Aug 10, 2017, 7:57 am
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Not exactly justifying, rather exploring more credible explanations for the behaviour.
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation....
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation....
Remember, this is supposed to be a 'fun' topic, a lighthearted poke at ourselves and the people we come in to contact with on our travels. I'm not sure the OP envisaged this topic being a place for detailed physiological analysis of the subjects and/or participants and their motives
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Aug 10, 2017, 10:08 am
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Aug 10, 2017, 1:11 pm
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Good idea. I came in from TLV last night. While there is clear signage for priority boarding, a few keen folk starting queuing there (presumably because they were entitled to it) but shortly thereafter everyone joined that line, leaving the general boarding area open.
A chap walked up to the agent at the head of the queue clutching an F boarding pass and very discretely asked about priority boarding. The agent just nodded at the sign and pointed to the back of the single line. He looked a bit surprised but wandered off to the back of the queue.
Pretty poor stuff imho. I can't believe the agent thought all pax had priority boarding.
A chap walked up to the agent at the head of the queue clutching an F boarding pass and very discretely asked about priority boarding. The agent just nodded at the sign and pointed to the back of the single line. He looked a bit surprised but wandered off to the back of the queue.
Pretty poor stuff imho. I can't believe the agent thought all pax had priority boarding.
Aug 10, 2017, 3:41 pm
#792
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Not exactly justifying, rather exploring more credible explanations for the behaviour.
The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
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The suggestion that there are crafty Asians waiting to attach themselves to other Asians travelling in business, so as to attain premium check-in privleges, seems so bizarre that I felt compelled to suggest another, simpler, explanation.
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Every time in my PEK-LHR commutes, there's always someone who will ask me (in Chinese) where they'll pass immigration, and invariably follow me through the fast track immigration lane. Same for the people who ask me how to get to T5C and later find me there, and follow me through the priority boarding lane. The language barrier sometimes makes it hard for the GAs to communicate that this is a priority boarding lane, and most of the times they let it slip.Back on topic, once at the priority boarding lane in GRU there was a fellow traveler who was behind me and insisting on "policing" the line himself, asking to see my boarding pass. I thought of letting it slip because I was OWS and one would certainly have to be higher than that to even think of comparing boarding passes, but then the GA came and gave him the walk of shame because he was a OWR! :P
Then there was the "we are all oneworld, why are we different" speech...
Aug 11, 2017, 3:21 am
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Just boarded the Finnair 350 to Helsinki on my way to Tallinn and was disgusted at the behaviour by the couple currently in 2D & 2H.
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
Aug 11, 2017, 3:24 am
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Just boarded the Finnair 350 to Helsinki on my way to Tallinn and was disgusted at the behaviour by the couple currently in 2D & 2H.
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
Aug 11, 2017, 6:17 am
#795
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a haughty entitled type worked her way up towards the front of the queue where I was patiently waiting for my turn and in a loud voice that only a British lady of a certain age can really pull off, asked each person waiting “Are you Preferred?”, presumably hoping that she could simply skip the line.
Worse case for me of this was KEF, where tired and bleary-eyed after an 'overnight' flight from JFK, I was greeted with a 2h queue at the Avis desk and no Preferred counter... though in that situation I walked up to the counter, said "I'm sorry, could you tell me where your Preferred desk is?" and was served immediately...