Club des Actionnaires Master Thread
#273
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
Not really.
1.) I don't regard Accor's claim to be "adding new benefits" as an example of clear communication. Accor could simply have written to CdA members and announced the change to the Le Club status they would enjoy in future. No one with a serious interest in Accor would have been surprised or upset.
2.) Three months' notice isn't really "ahead of time" for announcing changes to qualification requirements over a twelve month period.
I'm with most people here in not objecting to the core change at all. Free or easy Platinum cards dilute the status. But there should be some kind of transitional arrangement for CdA Platinum members in good standing.
One (easy) option would be to simply delay the downgrading to Gold for a year for those already in the CdA as at 1 March this year. Another would be to lower CdA members' Platinum target for 2015 by 30 nights and 10,000 points (i.e. the 'value' of the new CdA Gold status). That would be fair to CdA members with a reasonable track record of spending money with Accor and incentivise some of those who have been 'coasting'.
Do we have anyone's ear at Accor these days?
1.) I don't regard Accor's claim to be "adding new benefits" as an example of clear communication. Accor could simply have written to CdA members and announced the change to the Le Club status they would enjoy in future. No one with a serious interest in Accor would have been surprised or upset.
2.) Three months' notice isn't really "ahead of time" for announcing changes to qualification requirements over a twelve month period.
I'm with most people here in not objecting to the core change at all. Free or easy Platinum cards dilute the status. But there should be some kind of transitional arrangement for CdA Platinum members in good standing.
One (easy) option would be to simply delay the downgrading to Gold for a year for those already in the CdA as at 1 March this year. Another would be to lower CdA members' Platinum target for 2015 by 30 nights and 10,000 points (i.e. the 'value' of the new CdA Gold status). That would be fair to CdA members with a reasonable track record of spending money with Accor and incentivise some of those who have been 'coasting'.
Do we have anyone's ear at Accor these days?
#274
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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Am I the only one to have a pb reading this thread ? When I open it and click on "view first unread", it is the Sofitel Bali Nusa Dua review thread that opens
#275
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#277
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Paris, France
Programs: A3*G, Accor ALL Gold
Posts: 597
Has anyone got in touch with Accor to ask about the 25000 points rule to keep platinum ?
Will they consider points credited in the last 12 months ? Since the CDA account was open?
The current balance of the account ?
Depending on the answer, I might lose status, go for a bed run, or simply keep status !
Will they consider points credited in the last 12 months ? Since the CDA account was open?
The current balance of the account ?
Depending on the answer, I might lose status, go for a bed run, or simply keep status !
#278
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
I would suggest that more people enquiring, politely, can only help.
#279
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Paris, France
Programs: A3*G, Accor ALL Gold
Posts: 597
Yes. I submitted a message while logged in on their website and also reached out to Accor Concierge here at FT. No replies so far, but I only wrote yesterday (by which time Europe had already started the long bank holiday weekend).
I would suggest that more people enquiring, politely, can only help.
I would suggest that more people enquiring, politely, can only help.
#280
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZRH
Programs: QR Privilege Club Gold; Accor LeClub Platinum
Posts: 658
Has anyone got in touch with Accor to ask about the 25000 points rule to keep platinum ?
Will they consider points credited in the last 12 months ? Since the CDA account was open?
The current balance of the account ?
Depending on the answer, I might lose status, go for a bed run, or simply keep status !
Will they consider points credited in the last 12 months ? Since the CDA account was open?
The current balance of the account ?
Depending on the answer, I might lose status, go for a bed run, or simply keep status !
- last 365 days count (i.e. from June 3rd 2014 to June 3rd 2015)
- confusing statements regarding which points exactly are valid.
EDIT: to clarify, earned points count, no matter if you already spent them or not. So not depending on current balance, just on earned points in last 365 days.
#281
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
See here; in short:
- last 365 days count (i.e. from June 3rd 2014 to June 3rd 2015)
- last 365 days count (i.e. from June 3rd 2014 to June 3rd 2015)
There's also the question of how long points take to post and how that will affect people who complete stays in the week or so preceding the change.
I suppose it's possible that Accor has thought this through. In that case it would be very nice if they would communicate their thinking to their CdA members.
#282
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZRH
Programs: QR Privilege Club Gold; Accor LeClub Platinum
Posts: 658
It seems generally (to not much surprise) that they don't quite have their sh..tuff together in this.
Oh, IF someone from Accor ever finds this thread: could you please make sure that CdA (gold, or CdA + earned Plat status) is actually recognized properly by all hotels? I've written about this to Accor too and only got "maybe your status has not been properly updated in the hotel's system". And I still encounter quite a few hotels which seem to be having problems with it (yes, including those which usually don't pose any problems according to 'real' Plats)
#283
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
Just in case anyone is subscribed to this thread but doesn't follow the Accor Concierge thread, a question I asked there (post 19) a few days ago has generated a little discussion and a response from Accor Concierge.
Getting an answer to that would clear up one significant aspect of the uncertainty about what happens next... I have written to Shareholder Relations and Accor Concierge is also kindly checking to see what the LCAH system might reveal about my status expiry.
Getting an answer to that would clear up one significant aspect of the uncertainty about what happens next... I have written to Shareholder Relations and Accor Concierge is also kindly checking to see what the LCAH system might reveal about my status expiry.
#284
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Just in case anyone is subscribed to this thread but doesn't follow the Accor Concierge thread, a question I asked there (post 19) a few days ago has generated a little discussion and a response from Accor Concierge.
Getting an answer to that would clear up one significant aspect of the uncertainty about what happens next... I have written to Shareholder Relations and Accor Concierge is also kindly checking to see what the LCAH system might reveal about my status expiry.
Getting an answer to that would clear up one significant aspect of the uncertainty about what happens next... I have written to Shareholder Relations and Accor Concierge is also kindly checking to see what the LCAH system might reveal about my status expiry.
#285
my stats for the 12 months
Non promotion points (classic points+plat bonus) currently on 16564 points
Including promotions then its 33546 points and still missing my final 2 LCAH Feb points from my stays.
So either way its gold or Plat for me.
Including promotions then its 33546 points and still missing my final 2 LCAH Feb points from my stays.
So either way its gold or Plat for me.
Last edited by tris06; Apr 10, 2015 at 12:48 am