First class on regional jets
Oct 3, 2011, 2:29 pm
#91
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Sat in 1A last night on one of the reconfigured E170/175's. Very nice job on the upgrade though the FA said they are not officially treating those seats as FC until Dec.
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Oct 3, 2011, 2:31 pm
#92
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Looks like the E175 conversion is going well. From the website today (Monday at 4:30 EDT):
"Aircraft complete: 17 out of 38 – 45%"
"Aircraft complete: 17 out of 38 – 45%"
Oct 3, 2011, 6:48 pm
#93
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The reconfiguration is going very well. The tentative launch date has been moved up to the 18th for now. A full 10 days earlier than planned however it has not been announced just in case.
Oct 3, 2011, 11:34 pm
#94
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thanks for this discussion.. !
I now understand why it doesn't show if i make a tentative booking...
In the meantime, when you book...
Because we assign aircraft the day before a flight's departure, you'll see the current seatmap with a Coach-only cabin. Most likely, you won't know if there's First Class until the day you travel. But, be sure to book one and on the day you travel you may get to sit in a First Class seat if your plane is updated – but until the whole fleet is complete, we'll offer Coach service throughout the aircraft.
I now understand why it doesn't show if i make a tentative booking...
In the meantime, when you book...
Because we assign aircraft the day before a flight's departure, you'll see the current seatmap with a Coach-only cabin. Most likely, you won't know if there's First Class until the day you travel. But, be sure to book one and on the day you travel you may get to sit in a First Class seat if your plane is updated – but until the whole fleet is complete, we'll offer Coach service throughout the aircraft.
Oct 4, 2011, 9:32 am
#95
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I was able to book a first class ticket for a Republic E170 flight on Wed, Nov 9. The fare bucket is first class, and my reservation shows First (A). Is US expecting the 170 fleet to be completed sooner than originally planned?
Oct 4, 2011, 6:03 pm
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Oct 5, 2011, 12:14 am
#97
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Yes, the true FC service wont start until all aircraft of each type is finished. So once all the E170/175 are finished then FC service begans
Oct 5, 2011, 8:04 am
#98
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Oct 5, 2011, 9:17 pm
#99
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Was on 3244 from TPA to DCA today in 2A.. nice job... great plane nice cabin.. looking forward to no longer avoiding these flights
Oct 5, 2011, 9:30 pm
#100
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I can't wait until they install FC on the CRJ900's. I avoid those things all the time, will be nice to have FC on most flights out of PHX!
Oct 5, 2011, 10:07 pm
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Yeah me too, I was checking the schedule it appears the end of Nov is when FC Service is to start on the CRJ900s. My flights between PHX-AUS will be so much nicer. I'll be able to get some work on on my flights then.
Oct 6, 2011, 4:58 am
#102
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Looks like the 1st CRJ-900 has gone in for the first class refit. Unfortunately the out-of-service information shows taking about 3 1/2 weeks to complete.
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Ah, found the engineering order for the dual class conversion. The one that is in for the change is considered a prototype for the modification per the C&D Zodiac STC (interior furnishings manufacturer & Supplemental Type Certificate). I'll guess there are still some final certification issues to be worked out with the FAA for the change, and the time for actual interior swap on the remainder should be greatly reduced.
At this point, I wouldn't hold the end of November for a firm date on the FC going active until the planes start getting upgraded. 37 remaining planes, after the current one is completed (and all the paperwork is approved), modded at 1 MX location in one month sounds a bit tight, from my point of view,
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Ah, found the engineering order for the dual class conversion. The one that is in for the change is considered a prototype for the modification per the C&D Zodiac STC (interior furnishings manufacturer & Supplemental Type Certificate). I'll guess there are still some final certification issues to be worked out with the FAA for the change, and the time for actual interior swap on the remainder should be greatly reduced.
At this point, I wouldn't hold the end of November for a firm date on the FC going active until the planes start getting upgraded. 37 remaining planes, after the current one is completed (and all the paperwork is approved), modded at 1 MX location in one month sounds a bit tight, from my point of view,
Oct 6, 2011, 8:05 am
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Now this is interesting, Freedom Airlines (a subsiduarly of Mesa) was flying CRj-900s with FC in them for a while (say 2002-2004.) So why would they need FAA approval for the refit?
However I'm guessing not all of the CRJ900s had FC in them so they might need to recertified and bring one in 3.5 weeks early makes sense so they can get the recert done and work on any issues.
However I'm guessing not all of the CRJ900s had FC in them so they might need to recertified and bring one in 3.5 weeks early makes sense so they can get the recert done and work on any issues.
Looks like the 1st CRJ-900 has gone in for the first class refit. Unfortunately the out-of-service information shows taking about 3 1/2 weeks to complete.
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Ah, found the engineering order for the dual class conversion. The one that is in for the change is considered a prototype for the modification per the C&D Zodiac STC (interior furnishings manufacturer & Supplemental Type Certificate). I'll guess there are still some final certification issues to be worked out with the FAA for the change, and the time for actual interior swap on the remainder should be greatly reduced.
At this point, I wouldn't hold the end of November for a firm date on the FC going active until the planes start getting upgraded. 37 remaining planes, after the current one is completed (and all the paperwork is approved), modded at 1 MX location in one month sounds a bit tight, from my point of view,
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Ah, found the engineering order for the dual class conversion. The one that is in for the change is considered a prototype for the modification per the C&D Zodiac STC (interior furnishings manufacturer & Supplemental Type Certificate). I'll guess there are still some final certification issues to be worked out with the FAA for the change, and the time for actual interior swap on the remainder should be greatly reduced.
At this point, I wouldn't hold the end of November for a firm date on the FC going active until the planes start getting upgraded. 37 remaining planes, after the current one is completed (and all the paperwork is approved), modded at 1 MX location in one month sounds a bit tight, from my point of view,
Oct 6, 2011, 9:31 am
#104
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Now this is interesting, Freedom Airlines (a subsiduarly of Mesa) was flying CRj-900s with FC in them for a while (say 2002-2004.) So why would they need FAA approval for the refit?
However I'm guessing not all of the CRJ900s had FC in them so they might need to recertified and bring one in 3.5 weeks early makes sense so they can get the recert done and work on any issues.
However I'm guessing not all of the CRJ900s had FC in them so they might need to recertified and bring one in 3.5 weeks early makes sense so they can get the recert done and work on any issues.
Because the planes are being refitted (or restored to original configuration, depending on point of view) the specific STC documenting the changes/materials/procedure still has to be approved by the FAA for the specific planes being operated by Mesa. Some of the certification requirements are due to the fact that this new STC is replacing the previous one in addition to being applied to further airframes that were not covered in the previous coach cabin conversion.
BTW, Freedom Airlines has faded into the sunset after being dropped by Delta (another convoluted issue).
Oct 6, 2011, 10:28 am
#105
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Where are the CRJ900's being converted?