Non-reconfigured (Old) 747 N194UA in service (until 6 Jan 2011)
Sep 24, 2010, 9:45 am
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keep trying as olci will open up any where between t-24 and roughly 5 hours before departure once the a/c swap is fully loaded
Sep 24, 2010, 11:50 am
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Wow - I feel for you! Initially, I wanted to fly via SFO for more miles - but upgrades were a lot better ex-LAX. I am so glad I didn't make the switch from 891 to 837, otherwise I would have been stuck in the old configuration and be pissed!
If it's not too late, can you route through LAX - there are still plenty of seats available in F, C, and Y!
If it's not too late, can you route through LAX - there are still plenty of seats available in F, C, and Y!
The F/A told me that the sub happened due to a cargo door problem on one of the 47C. If that's true, I can totally understand. The cargo door issue can be serious and some airliners crashed because of faulty cargo door in the past. So, United, take your time and fix it well.
But again, I'm in F. The old First Suite is flat bed so not much difference in terms of comfort, and I slept most of the way any way. For IFE, I use my own iPad. The people in Business were not so lucky, though.
Sep 24, 2010, 5:36 pm
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There is a report in today's Wall Street Journal that this plane will be leased to another airline in the fall to fly outside of the USA.
Sep 24, 2010, 5:40 pm
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That's too bad. I've tried to fly on it twice, and the first time we were downgauged to a 777, while the second time, which is tomorrow, has been switched to a 47C..
Sep 24, 2010, 10:05 pm
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And that include one of UA's 747 some 20+ years ago as well, while taking off from HNL to SYD. While the plane didn't crash, but it did blow out a huge hole and suck out 9 people.
Sep 24, 2010, 10:11 pm
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Sep 24, 2010, 10:13 pm
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What I don't get is why the old config keeps doing Asia
turns while 664/973 get subbed with...a 74C with lie-flats. Why not send the latter over the Pacific to begin with? Does UA want to keep a 74C close to home for some reason?
turns while 664/973 get subbed with...a 74C with lie-flats. Why not send the latter over the Pacific to begin with? Does UA want to keep a 74C close to home for some reason?
Sep 24, 2010, 10:23 pm
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You do know if they send another 47C from ORD it would take 4.5 hours right ? So for that 47C to sub for a flight, it means the flight departing SFO would have a delay of 5+ hours, it then also affect for the return flight, end up chronic delays.
Sep 24, 2010, 10:54 pm
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Sep 25, 2010, 12:06 am
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Sep 25, 2010, 8:04 am
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The WSJ website may require subscription. The reference to the UA 747 is in the last paragraph:
"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
Sep 25, 2010, 8:29 am
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Here. The article is titled "Increases in Airline Capacity Stir Worries That Turnaround Will Stall"
The WSJ website may require subscription. The reference to the UA 747 is in the last paragraph:
"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
The WSJ website may require subscription. The reference to the UA 747 is in the last paragraph:
"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
That might explain why UA973 is showing NC0 at the end of October, even though there are 58 out 73 seats open
Sep 25, 2010, 9:31 am
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"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
Interesting. I'm booked on 664 early November and its showing old config 747.
Sep 25, 2010, 1:23 pm
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Here. The article is titled "Increases in Airline Capacity Stir Worries That Turnaround Will Stall"
The WSJ website may require subscription. The reference to the UA 747 is in the last paragraph:
"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
The WSJ website may require subscription. The reference to the UA 747 is in the last paragraph:
"United Airlines has been one of the most conservative airlines on the capacity front. Still, some rivals griped when it put a retired 747 back into service over the summer. But the big plane served only as a spare and will be leased to another airline this fall to fly outside of the U.S."
Copy and paste any WSJ.com article title into Google and then click the wsj.com link that you get from the Google search. Any wsj.com link originating from Google will bring up the full article without any signon or password requirement.
Sep 25, 2010, 9:55 pm
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Is something preventing this particular 74C from going overwater? Has UA altered the equipment rotations so that 664/973 are now part of a larger circuit, served by different aircraft each day? I don't get it.