Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Posted 14 March 2015
NOTE: The overwhelming consensus is that preflight PQD/PQM/RDM information on an itinerary is frequently wrong for inexplicable reasons, but it being wrong on the itinerary has no bearing on whether correct PQD/PQM/RDM will post to your MP account after flying a segment. So don't worry if things look wrong pre-flight; it is only necessary to contact MP if post-flight posting is incorrect.
Archive thread: Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your comments regarding our display of MileagePlus earning information.
We are aware that there are some rare instances, where international surcharge is being excluding from the display of award miles and PQD when viewing your upcoming reservation on United.com. We expect to have the earnings display corrected shortly. Please rest assured that the final earnings reflected in your Account summary once you have flown will include the surcharge.
-UA Insider
Thank you all for your comments regarding our display of MileagePlus earning information.
We are aware that there are some rare instances, where international surcharge is being excluding from the display of award miles and PQD when viewing your upcoming reservation on United.com. We expect to have the earnings display corrected shortly. Please rest assured that the final earnings reflected in your Account summary once you have flown will include the surcharge.
-UA Insider
Archive thread: Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
#691
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Fransisco, CA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 172
Already checked there, and indeed the miles/dollars/segments from this trip are missing
#692
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I just booked a rather... complex... itinerary online. 7 flights, 6 UA/UX operated and 1 ANA. None of the receipt, app, nor website are showing any accrual information. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, as I track all this information myself, but since the itinerary spans into next year, I need to know how many PQD will count in 2017, so I can figure out how much I need to spend on my last (unbooked) trip of the year to make 1K. Does anyone have any experience with this / know how to force the site to show the accruals? Thanks!
If you have a fare component spanning the year boundary, I'm afraid you're SOL. There is no reliable way to see per-segment earning within a single fare component. Even if the displays worked, I've never had it actually post the same as either the receipt or the forecast.
#693
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Fransisco, CA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 172
Although there have been reports to the contrary, I would be willing to take the following to the bank: (a) PQD accruals will be correct to the actual fare when spread across fare breaks, and (b) if they aren't you can call MPSC to get it fixed so that they are.
If you have a fare component spanning the year boundary, I'm afraid you're SOL. There is no reliable way to see per-segment earning within a single fare component. Even if the displays worked, I've never had it actually post the same as either the receipt or the forecast.
If you have a fare component spanning the year boundary, I'm afraid you're SOL. There is no reliable way to see per-segment earning within a single fare component. Even if the displays worked, I've never had it actually post the same as either the receipt or the forecast.
#694
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i don’t actually know what fare components this itinerary includes— it’s ORD-YYZ (this is the only segment not in P, so I know it’s on it’s own fare component), YYZ-IAH-NRT-BKK, then TPE-SFO-IAD-YYZ, with the last three flights being on January 2. I’d really hate to end the year with 130,000 PQM and only be platinum.
#695
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i don’t actually know what fare components this itinerary includes— it’s ORD-YYZ (this is the only segment not in P, so I know it’s on it’s own fare component), YYZ-IAH-NRT-BKK, then TPE-SFO-IAD-YYZ, with the last three flights being on January 2. I’d really hate to end the year with 130,000 PQM and only be platinum.
If you can find the same fare on ITA Matrix today, it may be in a more readable format there.
#696
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Fransisco, CA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 172
Looked it up via ITA, and yikes! Carrier UA PLX6ZDM0 YTO to BKK is only showing as $988. (There is $400 YQ, but I have no idea how that gets allocated). Looks like I'll need to pay for P on my last domestic trip as well :/
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Code:
CHI UA YTO 302.00QAACUPFN UA X/HOU UA X/TYO UA BKK Q12.19 975.77PLX6ZDM0 /-TPE UA X/SFO UA X/WAS UA YTO Q12.19 1185.16PHX4ZDM4 NUC 2487.31 END ROE 1.00 ZP ORD YYZ XT 11.00YC 14.00XY 7.92XA 49.43US 8.20ZP 16.80AY 20.40CA 2.60RC 19.70SQ 4.60OI 9.20SW 1.10E7 0.50G8 16.60TW 400.00YQ 9.00XF ORD4.50 IAH4.50
#697
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Looked it up via ITA, and yikes! Carrier UA PLX6ZDM0 YTO to BKK is only showing as $988. (There is $400 YQ, but I have no idea how that gets allocated). Looks like I'll need to pay for P on my last domestic trip as well :/
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Code:
CHI UA YTO 302.00QAACUPFN UA X/HOU UA X/TYO UA BKK Q12.19 975.77PLX6ZDM0 /-TPE UA X/SFO UA X/WAS UA YTO Q12.19 1185.16PHX4ZDM4 NUC 2487.31 END ROE 1.00 ZP ORD YYZ XT 11.00YC 14.00XY 7.92XA 49.43US 8.20ZP 16.80AY 20.40CA 2.60RC 19.70SQ 4.60OI 9.20SW 1.10E7 0.50G8 16.60TW 400.00YQ 9.00XF ORD4.50 IAH4.50
Code:
CHI - YTO QAACUPFN 302.00 YTO - BKK PLX6ZDM0 975.77 YTO - BKK Q schedule 12.19 TPE - YTO PHX4ZDM4 1185.16 TPE - YTO Q schedule 12.19 Gross YQ 400.00 ----------------------------- Total 2887.31
YQ: As stand-alone fare components, the YTO-BKK $267.60 r/t, YTO-BKK/TPE-YTO is also $267.60, and YTO-TPE is $39.40 r/t. Adding the CHI-YTO segment bumps it to $400. So who really knows.
#698
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Looked it up via ITA, and yikes! Carrier UA PLX6ZDM0 YTO to BKK is only showing as $988. (There is $400 YQ, but I have no idea how that gets allocated). Looks like I'll need to pay for P on my last domestic trip as well :/
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Fare construction, for anyone interested:
Code:
CHI UA YTO 302.00QAACUPFN UA X/HOU UA X/TYO UA BKK Q12.19 975.77PLX6ZDM0 /-TPE UA X/SFO UA X/WAS UA YTO Q12.19 1185.16PHX4ZDM4 NUC 2487.31 END ROE 1.00 ZP ORD YYZ XT 11.00YC 14.00XY 7.92XA 49.43US 8.20ZP 16.80AY 20.40CA 2.60RC 19.70SQ 4.60OI 9.20SW 1.10E7 0.50G8 16.60TW 400.00YQ 9.00XF ORD4.50 IAH4.50
#699
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Code:
ORIGINATING CANADA - A SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. NOTE - THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE. THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
i.e. sales conversion
No, wait, OP has a US ticket origin, so actually it did NUC -> USD at 1.0000, and things are mostly correct then. The change in USD/CAD rate since the NUC conversion means it's advantageous to purchase the same fare with a Canada origin (also less YQ).
My original post assumes PQD accrue as NUC for fare components.
#700
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Q is a general code for surcharges-by-schedule
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No, wait, OP has a US ticket origin, so actually it did NUC -> USD at 1.0000, and things are mostly correct then. The change in USD/CAD rate since the NUC conversion means it's advantageous to purchase the same fare with a Canada origin (also less YQ).
My original post assumes PQD accrue as NUC for fare components.
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No, wait, OP has a US ticket origin, so actually it did NUC -> USD at 1.0000, and things are mostly correct then. The change in USD/CAD rate since the NUC conversion means it's advantageous to purchase the same fare with a Canada origin (also less YQ).
My original post assumes PQD accrue as NUC for fare components.
I would expect PQDs to accrue based upon NUC, but I don't know for sure. In this case, of course, it shouldn't matter.
#701
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The workflow is then:
1. New NUC conversion table is published
2. Carriers re-file fares in NUC based on the target currency (e.g. a KRW 700,000 fare is filed in NUC such that it's always KRW 700,000 for that month)
3. City of origin pulls the fare table for that city, and converts NUC to local using the NUC conversion table
4. Sales city converts origin currency to sales currency using market float rate
Taxes and fees are in the local currency of the billing country, and are converted to sales currency at time of purchase using the market float.
Much easier to track and award PQD by NUC instead of USD, and it's not going to be all that exploitable except in the case of rapidly changing currencies (hmm too bad CCS is not a destination anymore )
#702
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Fransisco, CA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 172
Y'all are absolutely incredible, thanks so much for the detailed responses. I went ahead and booked my ORD-SEA in P to ensure I'll have enough PQD for the year.
#703
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Programs: UA 1K, UA .53 MM, Marriott Gold, Nexus, GE, TSA Pre, Hertz PC
Posts: 581
Ineligible to accrue mileage or Premier qualifying credit.
Hi there,
Booked the following itinerary: SFO-ORD-TVC, DTW-IAD-SFO. The ORD-TVC leg is Operated By Air Wisconsin Airlines dba United Express. Does anyone know why this ticket is showing that leg as being ineligible for PQM's? Normally I wouldn't be super concerned about this, but the ORD-TVC flight is my last flight of 2017 (flying on 12/24/17), and I am relying on the 500 PQM minimum to meet 1K requirements (99,527 vs 100,027 PQM). The other three legs on the itinerary are all on United metal, and it is an 016 ticket. I would be very upset to fly that leg only to learn that I am 473 PQM short of qualifying for 1K! (PQD will be met already)
Fare Breakdown
- Airfare: 528.37 USD
- U.S. Transportation Tax:39.63
- U.S. Flight Segment Tax:16.40
- September 11th Security Fee:11.20
- U.S. Passenger Facility Charge:18.00
- Per Person Total: 613.60 USD
- eTicket Total: 613.60 USD
Last edited by SFOrunner; Nov 16, 2017 at 12:02 pm Reason: Added attachment.
#704
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Hi there,
Booked the following itinerary: SFO-ORD-TVC, DTW-IAD-SFO. The ORD-TVC leg is Operated By Air Wisconsin Airlines dba United Express. Does anyone know why this ticket is showing that leg as being ineligible for PQM's? Normally I wouldn't be super concerned about this, but the ORD-TVC flight is my last flight of 2017 (flying on 12/24/17), and I am relying on the 500 PQM minimum to meet 1K requirements (99,527 vs 100,027 PQM). The other three legs on the itinerary are all on United metal, and it is an 016 ticket. I would be very upset to fly that leg only to learn that I am 473 PQM short of qualifying for 1K! (PQD will be met already)
Booked the following itinerary: SFO-ORD-TVC, DTW-IAD-SFO. The ORD-TVC leg is Operated By Air Wisconsin Airlines dba United Express. Does anyone know why this ticket is showing that leg as being ineligible for PQM's? Normally I wouldn't be super concerned about this, but the ORD-TVC flight is my last flight of 2017 (flying on 12/24/17), and I am relying on the 500 PQM minimum to meet 1K requirements (99,527 vs 100,027 PQM). The other three legs on the itinerary are all on United metal, and it is an 016 ticket. I would be very upset to fly that leg only to learn that I am 473 PQM short of qualifying for 1K! (PQD will be met already)
#705
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