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Old Aug 28, 2018, 4:56 pm
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This seatmap is being used for all flights will an sUA 777-200ER scheduled. It is being used to guard against equipment swaps into one of the three possible seating configurations: legacy sUA 3-class (8F/40J and 3-3-3 in Y), 2-class Polaris (50J and 3-4-3Y), and 3-class Polaris/PE (50J/24W and 3-4-3 Y). The actual seatmap for the aircraft assigned to your flight will become available when the flight is added to the normal Flight Status display, approximately 60 hours before departure (usually overnight).

Blocks in Economy are at all 'F' seats, plus 20CH, 21BJ, 22BJ, and 35ABCDE (the last for accommodation). The blocks are designed so that, regardless of which equipment flies, no one will be moved or scrambled when the seatmap updates. Instead, some seats will unblock and some blocked seats may be deleted based on the real configuration, and then some rows may be added. This process is similar to that for the 757-300, 737-900, and other frames with uncertain configurations.

Some danger remains if there are more equipment swaps after the initial frame assignment, and the change from F/J to Polaris in the forward cabins is not a well-defined mapping.

Premium Economy, if on the plane used, would be Rows 20-22, Seats AB[ ]DEFG[ ]KL

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Similarly, as Premium Plus is added to the existing Polaris 773s, Rows 19/20/21 seats B & K are not shown, to accommodate potential swaps between PP & non-PP equipped aircraft.

It is speculated that once PP is offered as a true separate cabin. UA will focus the PP equipped aircraft on a few selected routes to minimize the swap risk.
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
When the seat map, in my case, changes to a solid 777-200 config and not the generic one, is that as close an indicator as possible that that will be the config you are on? My experience of this is that it 100% is, but my sample size is only 3 flights.
Yes, as you imply it's not a guarantee, but usually whichever definite seatmap displays is what sticks. That all is also the case for the agnostic 753 map.
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 4:55 pm
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So my MUC-ORD in January just got changed from 763 to the interim 772. Fingers crossed
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Kmxu

If there is a swatch to Polaris a/c, make the change to rows 20-22 at T-48 h or earlier. Check the seat map early and often. Good luck.
They don’t allow switching to 20-22 after 48 hours? When will the actual seat map show up?
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by dinoscool3


They don’t allow switching to 20-22 after 48 hours? When will the actual seat map show up?
Most probably the seat map will appear about 60 hours before the time of departure. I think it's two days before the flight but it's just after midnight from I don't remember what time zone. You can switch seats from the moment of booking your flight up to the time of boarding your flight, which means that you can switch seats after the seat map appears. However, it's better if you select a seat in Rows 20-22 the earliest you decide that you want a seat in those rows. If not, other passengers will get those seats.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
When the seat map, in my case, changes to a solid 777-200 config and not the generic one, is that as close an indicator as possible that that will be the config you are on? My experience of this is that it 100% is, but my sample size is only 3 flights.
My 2-flight experience is 50-50. First one showed the new config at about T-48, and then flipped back to the old one about T-7. On the return it stuck, but it was IAD-NRT route, they have more flexibility for swaps at IAD than NRT.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by drewguy
My 2-flight experience is 50-50. First one showed the new config at about T-48, and then flipped back to the old one about T-7. On the return it stuck, but it was IAD-NRT route, they have more flexibility for swaps at IAD than NRT.
I had the same experience of 50-50 on ORD-MUC-ORD in May. The ORD-MUC switched back to the old configuration at about T-9. The big problem is that I ended up in a way worst seat that my original seat in the old configuration. The computer decided that the best seat to place someone who had selected 3A in the new configuration at T-48 was 10A. Business Class was supposed to be full. It took lots of effort to end in a slightly better seat. Managed it due to the fact that there were some no shows. But there were a lot of passengers trying to switch seats after boarding and the GA came aboard with 8 new boarding passes. The return with no switch back to the old configuration let me keep seat 3A that I had selected at T-48.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 6:48 am
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Is there an ETA when PE will officially be rolled out? I assume that when this occurs, anyone with flights booked subsequently in rows 20-22 is going to get moved to another row?
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 11:00 am
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B772 or B773ER

just got off of UA872 TPE-SFO normally operated by a B773ER with Polaris.
The aircraft according to flight status was swapped for a B777-200 (Aircraft#2136) with Premium Plus and the new Polaris.
However, it still appeared to be a B773ER with Polaris and the mini-economy cabin before is now 3 rows of Premium Plus.
The safety video still showed B773ER and the safety card was the B773ER.
Would have been okay with Premium Plus but was up front although the seats did look a little tigher than those on EVA or Lufthansa.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by myperks
just got off of UA872 TPE-SFO normally operated by a B773ER with Polaris.
The aircraft according to flight status was swapped for a B777-200 (Aircraft#2136) with Premium Plus and the new Polaris.
However, it still appeared to be a B773ER with Polaris and the mini-economy cabin before is now 3 rows of Premium Plus.
The safety video still showed B773ER and the safety card was the B773ER.
Would have been okay with Premium Plus but was up front although the seats did look a little tigher than those on EVA or Lufthansa.
Aircraft #2136 is a 777-300ER — N2136U. Obviously, it’s one of the ones that has been converted to add the Premium Plus seating.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by myperks
just got off of UA872 TPE-SFO normally operated by a B773ER with Polaris.
The aircraft according to flight status was
swapped for a B777-200 (Aircraft#2136) with Premium Plus and the new Polaris.
However, it still appeared to be a B773ER with Polaris and the mini-economy cabin before is now 3 rows of Premium Plus.

The safety video still showed B773ER and the safety card was the B773ER.
Would have been okay with Premium Plus but was up front although the seats did look a little tigher than those on EVA or Lufthansa.
Interesting detail. The video has some Polaris hardware-specific details (the shoulder belt), but I don't remember—does the safety card say something? Otherwise it seems quite odd that the 773 card would be on the 772.

edit: ah, misread the above insight from jsloan.

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Old Oct 29, 2018, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan

Aircraft #2136 is a 777-300ER — N2136U. Obviously, it’s one of the ones that has been converted to add the Premium Plus seating.
Yeah, and Flight Radar etc show it was flown by a 77W as usual.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan

Aircraft #2136 is a 777-300ER — N2136U. Obviously, it’s one of the ones that has been converted to add the Premium Plus seating.
Originally Posted by drewguy
Yeah, and Flight Radar etc show it was flown by a 77W as usual.
thanks... it was the united app status that still shows B777-200, maybe just a glitch.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 4:47 pm
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At T-10 the 3 cabin 767 old-lhr0 switched to a new polaris configuration, two hours later it switched again to a 3 cabin aircraft - I retained my GF seat but then it switched again at 9-6 to a new polaris and at T-5 it switched to a 2 cabin old continental seating. I collected many boarding passes that day with different seat assignments.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by nigos
At T-10 the 3 cabin 767 old-lhr0 switched to a new polaris configuration, two hours later it switched again to a 3 cabin aircraft - I retained my GF seat but then it switched again at 9-6 to a new polaris and at T-5 it switched to a 2 cabin old continental seating. I collected many boarding passes that day with different seat assignments.
Let's hope that your last seat assignment was acceptable. The one time that I had a switch and then a switch back on an international long haul, I had a hard time getting an acceptable seat.
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 7:40 pm
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Flight into HKG yesterday was configured with PE and showing PE for 20-22 out to SFO today. With 2 hours before flight time I'm hoping it holds and is true.

No one yet has indicated they'd actually flown the config....
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