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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
Related thread -
Ways to search for upgrade space at booking?
Understanding the United Upgrade List Comprehensively
Decoding the alphabet soup - fare buckets for UA
Expert Mode Update: better upgrade visibility and opt-in to see fare bucket data.
[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
#466
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Good luck!
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#469
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PN2 is a good sign, as in addition to Kmxu’s statement that it means that any GS passengers in groups of 2 or less would have cleared — less important when you already know your position on the list, but not nothing — it also means that UA is getting increasingly desperate to sell the seats. Ultimately you need PZ space to open before you can get upgraded, but PN will always open fully first — so if it’s J9, it has to go to PN9 before PZ space will start to open. It’s a step in the right direction.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Glad I thought to check inventory this afternoon, albeit for a flight I don't care that much about (MCO-IAD). I'd switched back and forth between the 4 and 7pm departures, and kept clearing using PP. Switched back to the 7pm this morning, and it was PN0 PZ0, so I left it with CPU. I was 2nd on the list at the time with 4 seats.
Around 4pm, I figured I would check again. Still 2nd, still 4 seats, but it was now PN/PZ3. So I applied PP (knowing I'll not use them all anyway this year), and cleared.
I just checked again a few minutes ago, and F is checked in full, with the person who was #1 ahead of me still #1 on the list and not cleared. Guess folks bought up.
I really don't care that much about a 2-2.5 hour flight, but sitting in F beats sitting in Y 95% of the time.
Around 4pm, I figured I would check again. Still 2nd, still 4 seats, but it was now PN/PZ3. So I applied PP (knowing I'll not use them all anyway this year), and cleared.
I just checked again a few minutes ago, and F is checked in full, with the person who was #1 ahead of me still #1 on the list and not cleared. Guess folks bought up.
I really don't care that much about a 2-2.5 hour flight, but sitting in F beats sitting in Y 95% of the time.
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Passengers using an instrument from a Global Services account will be ahead of all other passengers, regardless of their paid class of service.
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Hey all, incredibly new to this, first time trying MUA – appreciate the tips and guidance!
Flying SFO-TPE (UA 853) on 3/16 booked in Economy (S):J7 JN7 C7 D6 Z5 ZN5 P4 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 (Updated!)
My partner (two of us flying) who is Platinum (I'm no status haha) put us on the MUA list for both Premium Plus and Polaris.
When I do the date change trick, the upgrade list on the website shows:
Polaris total seats: 50, Booked seats: Full, Checked in: 0 – Position #8 and #9
Premium Plus total seats: 24, Booked seats 22, Checked in: 0 – Position #2 and #3
Why does J show 9, but the upgrade list show booked seats = full? I'm assuming that J9 = 9 open Polaris, and there's a very low likelihood of us getting Polaris if we're 8 & 9? And then O1 means 1 PP seat open... but then the upgrade list makes it seem like there are 2 spots open? I'm not sure what number I should be looking at to know the chance that we get upgraded? 🤣
Flying SFO-TPE (UA 853) on 3/16 booked in Economy (S):J7 JN7 C7 D6 Z5 ZN5 P4 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 (Updated!)
My partner (two of us flying) who is Platinum (I'm no status haha) put us on the MUA list for both Premium Plus and Polaris.
When I do the date change trick, the upgrade list on the website shows:
Polaris total seats: 50, Booked seats: Full, Checked in: 0 – Position #8 and #9
Premium Plus total seats: 24, Booked seats 22, Checked in: 0 – Position #2 and #3
Why does J show 9, but the upgrade list show booked seats = full? I'm assuming that J9 = 9 open Polaris, and there's a very low likelihood of us getting Polaris if we're 8 & 9? And then O1 means 1 PP seat open... but then the upgrade list makes it seem like there are 2 spots open? I'm not sure what number I should be looking at to know the chance that we get upgraded? 🤣
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UA 852 is TPE-SFO, not SFO-TPE. And neither UA 852 nor UA 853 (SFO-TPE) have that inventory on that date, at least as far as I can tell. Please double-check the date, flight, and direction.
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This is what comes up for the actual flight: J7 JN7 C7 D6 Z5 ZN5 P4 PNO PZO INO 10 01 ON1 AO RO RNO - still confused why it says J7 but upgrade list says booked in polaris = full?
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This is a known issue with the upgrade list. It’ll self correct approximately three days before to match what you’re seeing in expert mode. I forget what exactly the reasoning was for the upgrade list double counting certain passengers to make it seem full when it is not
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D’oh.. thank you both! I didn’t realize it shows the actual next date when it’s a past midnight flight, was searching 3/16 but actually looking at 3/17 😂 And fat fingered 853…
This is what comes up for the actual flight: J7 JN7 C7 D6 Z5 ZN5 P4 PNO PZO INO 10 01 ON1 AO RO RNO - still confused why it says J7 but upgrade list says booked in polaris = full?
This is what comes up for the actual flight: J7 JN7 C7 D6 Z5 ZN5 P4 PNO PZO INO 10 01 ON1 AO RO RNO - still confused why it says J7 but upgrade list says booked in polaris = full?
#478
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Welcome to FlyerTalk!
When you look up inventory in Expert Mode, you have to search for just the flight you're interested in, without any connections. Since you're saying 34/50, you must be on the earlier flight, which is on a 777-200 (50 J seats). The actual inventory there is J9 ... P9 PN0 PZ0, which means UA is willing to sell cash fares at its deepest discount but there's no upgrade space available yet. If you could change to the later flight without a fare increase, you'd find that it's J9 ... P9 PN9 PZ0, which means that they've cleared all Global Services customers, which would be good news for a non-GS member in PE.
5, 6, 7 on the waitlist, I'd be nervous about clearing that flight, but your chances would be excellent on the later flight.
When you look up inventory in Expert Mode, you have to search for just the flight you're interested in, without any connections. Since you're saying 34/50, you must be on the earlier flight, which is on a 777-200 (50 J seats). The actual inventory there is J9 ... P9 PN0 PZ0, which means UA is willing to sell cash fares at its deepest discount but there's no upgrade space available yet. If you could change to the later flight without a fare increase, you'd find that it's J9 ... P9 PN9 PZ0, which means that they've cleared all Global Services customers, which would be good news for a non-GS member in PE.
5, 6, 7 on the waitlist, I'd be nervous about clearing that flight, but your chances would be excellent on the later flight.
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Hi! Please help!! I just looked up my flight SFO to SYD March 21 at 9. It looks like there are three PZ seats available, but no one is getting upgraded. They are just sitting there. I called United and they said they can’t help because our booking is through Celebrity. What do I do? We’ve also dropped in spots to 8, 9, 10. Thank you so much!!
You can leapfrog people on the upgrade list, but most UA agents won't help you. The easiest approach would be to cancel your existing upgrade request and then re-apply it. You'll have to pay the co-pay again, but your original co-pay would be refunded so it should end up as a wash. You may be able to cancel your existing upgrade online, or by calling United.
#480
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UA is supposed to clear people from the list when PZ space opens. However, in practice there is often a window of time exactly like you're describing, where upgrade space will open but nobody gets cleared.
You can leapfrog people on the upgrade list, but most UA agents won't help you. The easiest approach would be to cancel your existing upgrade request and then re-apply it. You'll have to pay the co-pay again, but your original co-pay would be refunded so it should end up as a wash. You may be able to cancel your existing upgrade online, or by calling United.
You can leapfrog people on the upgrade list, but most UA agents won't help you. The easiest approach would be to cancel your existing upgrade request and then re-apply it. You'll have to pay the co-pay again, but your original co-pay would be refunded so it should end up as a wash. You may be able to cancel your existing upgrade online, or by calling United.