Decoding the alphabet soup - fare buckets for UA
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Oct 18, 11, 5:32 pm
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Decoding the alphabet soup - fare buckets for UA
This data will eventually be included in the new FAQ but while waiting for that to be guilt I figured I'd share the details. These are all the fares in the new scheme:
Revenue buckets (RDM/PQM earnings)
F - Full Fare First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
A - Discount First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
J - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
C - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
D - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
Z - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
P - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
Y - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
B - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
M - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
E - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
U - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
H - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Q - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
V - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
W - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
S - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
T - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
L - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
K - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
G - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
N - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Saver Award Seats
O - Saver 3-cabin First Award
IN - Elite (Plat/1K/GS) Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
I - Non-Elite and Low Elite Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
XN - Elite Saver Coach Award
X - Non-Elite Saver Coach Award
Standard Award Seats
FN - Standard 3-cabin First Award
JN - Elite/CC Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award
ZN - Non-Elite Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award (tracks to the Z bucket)
YN - Elite/CC Standard Coach Award
HN - Non-Elite Standard Coach Award (tracks to the H bucket)
Upgrade Awards
ON - C->F on 3-cabin aircraft
JN - Y-Up for Elites (tracks to the J bucket, i.e. last seat availability)
PN - B/M-Up for Elites (tracks to the P bucket); All GS upgrades Y->C (CPU, RPU, GPU, miles)
R - Upgrade to Business/Domestic F (except GS)
RN - Had not been used but appears now to be the Instant Upgrade (Y/B fares) inventory for Silver, Gold and maybe Plats
Revenue buckets (RDM/PQM earnings)
F - Full Fare First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
A - Discount First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
J - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
C - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
D - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
Z - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
P - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
Y - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
B - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
M - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
E - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
U - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
H - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Q - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
V - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
W - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
S - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
T - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
L - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
K - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
G - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
N - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Saver Award Seats
O - Saver 3-cabin First Award
IN - Elite (Plat/1K/GS) Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
I - Non-Elite and Low Elite Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
XN - Elite Saver Coach Award
X - Non-Elite Saver Coach Award
Standard Award Seats
FN - Standard 3-cabin First Award
JN - Elite/CC Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award
ZN - Non-Elite Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award (tracks to the Z bucket)
YN - Elite/CC Standard Coach Award
HN - Non-Elite Standard Coach Award (tracks to the H bucket)
Upgrade Awards
ON - C->F on 3-cabin aircraft
JN - Y-Up for Elites (tracks to the J bucket, i.e. last seat availability)
PN - B/M-Up for Elites (tracks to the P bucket); All GS upgrades Y->C (CPU, RPU, GPU, miles)
R - Upgrade to Business/Domestic F (except GS)
RN - Had not been used but appears now to be the Instant Upgrade (Y/B fares) inventory for Silver, Gold and maybe Plats
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 21, 16 at 12:39 pm
Oct 18, 11, 7:26 pm
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As always, many thanks sbm12.
I looked at a few (actually, many) CO flights during 2011~2012 and couldn't any difference in the number of seats allocated to the non-elite vs elite buckets for prem class travel, either free or award. i.e.,
ON = O avail
IN = I avail
RN = R avail
Hope that they actually do allocate more seats to the xN buckets. (Am assuming that the xN buckets are actually sub-buckets (ie, if a 1k pax books into an xN bucket, then both the xN and the x bucket decreases by one).
I looked at a few (actually, many) CO flights during 2011~2012 and couldn't any difference in the number of seats allocated to the non-elite vs elite buckets for prem class travel, either free or award. i.e.,
ON = O avail
IN = I avail
RN = R avail
Hope that they actually do allocate more seats to the xN buckets. (Am assuming that the xN buckets are actually sub-buckets (ie, if a 1k pax books into an xN bucket, then both the xN and the x bucket decreases by one).
Oct 18, 11, 7:47 pm
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Great to know, thank you!
One thing I found interesting is the fact that there is now RN (for elite upgrades) in addition to R for upgrade availability. Does this mean that instead of zeroing out R inventory at the EUA run, CO will simply allocate EUA space in RN?
It is interesting because non-elites could potentially mileage upgrade while elites were waiting for EUAs at their respective windows.
One thing I found interesting is the fact that there is now RN (for elite upgrades) in addition to R for upgrade availability. Does this mean that instead of zeroing out R inventory at the EUA run, CO will simply allocate EUA space in RN?
It is interesting because non-elites could potentially mileage upgrade while elites were waiting for EUAs at their respective windows.
Oct 18, 11, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO_FT
I looked at a few (actually, many) CO flights during 2011~2012 and couldn't any difference in the number of seats allocated to the non-elite vs elite buckets for prem class travel, either free or award. i.e.,
Originally Posted by SFO_FT
Am assuming that the xN buckets are actually sub-buckets
Originally Posted by boat9781
It is interesting because non-elites could potentially mileage upgrade while elites were waiting for EUAs at their respective windows.
Oct 18, 11, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
They already give folks using miles or other instruments priority over EUA on the CO side and the new program will have that same policy for the CPU process. I'm not so sure that this is a real issue to worry about.
Oct 18, 11, 8:55 pm
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Other than the Revenue Buckets, I see all the award seats are coded differently than UA Codes (NF, NY, XF, XY). Since we will be using CO SHARES by March 2012, we will have to re-learn the codes.
Oct 18, 11, 9:58 pm
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Thank you SBM12!
Oct 19, 11, 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by snod08
Thank you SBM12!
Oct 19, 11, 1:38 pm
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Thanks sbm12! A couple points of clarification.
Isn't "D" actually discounted business class? Or did that change recently?
Also, so "ON" is SaverPass F award AND C --> F upgrade space? So there is no distinction between the two?
Isn't "D" actually discounted business class? Or did that change recently?
Also, so "ON" is SaverPass F award AND C --> F upgrade space? So there is no distinction between the two?
Oct 22, 11, 1:13 pm
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Any idea why CO has a PN bucket on int'l long-haul (ie, not eligible for comp elite upgrade) flights? Thought this was used solely for comp elite UPGs in eligible markets?
Oct 22, 11, 2:29 pm
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Outstanding chart! Thanks a million. This really helps a lot.
Will be interesting to see how the fare buckets pan out on the routes in 2012.
Will be interesting to see how the fare buckets pan out on the routes in 2012.
Oct 22, 11, 3:34 pm
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Why are the awards listed in OPass parlance? In 60 days it's a dead program - what are the codes in United Mileage Plus parlance?
Oct 22, 11, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by g_leyser
Also, so "ON" is SaverPass F award AND C --> F upgrade space? So there is no distinction between the two?
Originally Posted by uastarflyer
Why are the awards listed in OPass parlance? In 60 days it's a dead program - what are the codes in United Mileage Plus parlance?
Originally Posted by meFIRST
So as I understand it, NF, NC, NY
is gone?
is gone?
Oct 23, 11, 9:52 am
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For purpose of awards from other FFPs, will domestic first be designated I like PMCO or O like PMUA?
Right now, you cannot book AC/BD awards on UA for business mileage, because they book into O, wheras CO domestic books into I
Right now, you cannot book AC/BD awards on UA for business mileage, because they book into O, wheras CO domestic books into I
