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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight {Archive}
Related thread -
Ways to search for upgrade space at booking?
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Expert Mode Update: better upgrade visibility and opt-in to see fare bucket data.
[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight
#511
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 16
I have been checking daily in hopes something would open, my concern is if I split the reservation would my husband no longer be #2? He is gold. Comparing the upgrade lists, 1-4 for Polaris are coming from PE (there is a group of 2 behind us).
#512
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Did you find your positions on the upgrade waiting lists for both Polaris and PremiumPlus cabins using the "date change trick?"
#513
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 352
On the way back it's GRU-IAH on March 28. I'm sixth in line (using the date trick).
#514
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Depending upon how many seats are sold (e.g., "upsell") in the next few days, your chance may be better than 50-50. Good luck.
#515
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 352
Ok, there's a great chance I'll be able to finish my work here a day early and a small chance I could change my return flight to Wednesday. Here's the info:UA63 Wednesday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R8 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 (currently system can’t show how many are available).
UA63 Thursday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z7 ZN7 P2 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN3 X0 (12 Polaris seats available if I try to book it).
I'm 6th in line for Thursday.
Is it worth it to change my flight? Would the late upgrade be much more expensive though?
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R8 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 (currently system can’t show how many are available).
UA63 Thursday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z7 ZN7 P2 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN3 X0 (12 Polaris seats available if I try to book it).
I'm 6th in line for Thursday.
Is it worth it to change my flight? Would the late upgrade be much more expensive though?
#516
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Ok, there's a great chance I'll be able to finish my work here a day early and a small chance I could change my return flight to Wednesday. Here's the info:UA63 Wednesday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R8 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 (currently system can’t show how many are available).
UA63 Thursday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z7 ZN7 P2 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN3 X0 (12 Polaris seats available if I try to book it).
I'm 6th in line for Thursday.
Is it worth it to change my flight? Would the late upgrade be much more expensive though?
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O9 ON9 A9 R8 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 (currently system can’t show how many are available).
UA63 Thursday:
J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z7 ZN7 P2 PN0 PZ0 IN0 I0 O1 ON1 A0 R0 RN0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N9 XN3 X0 (12 Polaris seats available if I try to book it).
I'm 6th in line for Thursday.
Is it worth it to change my flight? Would the late upgrade be much more expensive though?
If upfare (offer to upgrade price; from your own pocket) to PremiumPlus cabin is reasonable, which will reduces your co-pay to Polaris slightly, your chance for upgrading to Polaris will increase greatly (ahead of all economy cabin pax without Global Service upgrade instruments).
#517
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 22
Learning the route:
- I'm on SFO-SYD, booked into a 'B' fare, 1K status, midweek, and am on the waitlist for Premium Plus/Polaris with pluspoints, lots of inventory showing in Polaris a few weeks out.
- The return is an 'R' fare with a confirmed Premium Plus seat, 1K status, Friday flight, on the waitlist with pluspoints, lots of inventory.
#518
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 352
It is hard to tell without examining both PremiumPlus and Polaris waiting lists (WLs). For non-status pax, you will be near the end of the lists unless someone purchases a lower fare class. You have S class fare, which is only ahead of T, L, K and G class fares. If the length of WLs on next Wednesday's flight is much shorter than the number of available seats, you will have a good chance. Based upon the comparison in expert mode for both days alone, it is easier to get upgrades on Wednesday's flight (P9 vs. P2; O9 vs. O1; UA is willing to oversell Premium Plus cabin seats on Wednesday's flight). It is better to make an educated decision with more info (e.g., WLs).
If upfare (offer to upgrade price; from your own pocket) to PremiumPlus cabin is reasonable, which will reduces your co-pay to Polaris slightly, your chance for upgrading to Polaris will increase greatly (ahead of all economy cabin pax without Global Service upgrade instruments).
If upfare (offer to upgrade price; from your own pocket) to PremiumPlus cabin is reasonable, which will reduces your co-pay to Polaris slightly, your chance for upgrading to Polaris will increase greatly (ahead of all economy cabin pax without Global Service upgrade instruments).
#519
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,469
Learning the route:
- I'm on SFO-SYD, booked into a 'B' fare, 1K status, midweek, and am on the waitlist for Premium Plus/Polaris with pluspoints, lots of inventory showing in Polaris a few weeks out.
- The return is an 'R' fare with a confirmed Premium Plus seat, 1K status, Friday flight, on the waitlist with pluspoints, lots of inventory.
#520
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Good luck.
Add: Check the flight status for UA 63 on Wednesday. 11 is on PremiumPlus WL, 16 on Polaris WL. #1 probably used Global Service Pluspoints (PN space); 2-6 are already on PremiumPlus cabin; the rest is waitlisted for both cabins.
Last edited by Kmxu; Mar 25, 2024 at 11:50 am
#521
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 1
Hi, can someone please give me their educated guess about my chances of getting upgraded?
Flight info is UA 875 (SFO - HND) on April 1st.
Background.... Silver Status, currently in 6th position for business. Originally paid for economy (S) and waitlist upgraded with 30k points and cash. I was upgraded to Premium Plus already automatically a few weeks ago (RN). Date of original ticket was 10/29/23
Seat map shows 17 open seats out of 49 (though I realize this might not be accurate).
Current avail fare classes copy and pasted:
Thank you!
Edit: Update, I was upgraded this morning
Flight info is UA 875 (SFO - HND) on April 1st.
Background.... Silver Status, currently in 6th position for business. Originally paid for economy (S) and waitlist upgraded with 30k points and cash. I was upgraded to Premium Plus already automatically a few weeks ago (RN). Date of original ticket was 10/29/23
Seat map shows 17 open seats out of 49 (though I realize this might not be accurate).
Current avail fare classes copy and pasted:
- J9
- JN9
- C9
- D9
- Z9
- ZN9
- P9
- PN0
- PZ0
- IN0
- I0
- O9
- ON9
- A9
- R6
- RN0
- Y9
- YN9
- B9
- M9
- E9
- U9
- H9
- HN9
- Q9
- V8
- W3
- S0
- T0
- L0
- K0
- G0
- XN0
- X0
Thank you!
Edit: Update, I was upgraded this morning
Last edited by realcxd; Mar 26, 2024 at 10:18 am
#522
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 352
I see, so it's better to stay #8 for Thursday than who knows what position on Wednesday, but potentially 10-16th?
#523
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: IAD,DCA
Programs: UA Gold
Posts: 20
Flying April 25th IAD-HND in premium plus. I just went into the upgrade offer section and for the first time I have ever seen the miles and money option says 6 seats left and not the usual "waitlist". I went and double checked the fare codes and saw PZ6.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.
#524
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,417
Flying April 25th IAD-HND in premium plus. I just went into the upgrade offer section and for the first time I have ever seen the miles and money option says 6 seats left and not the usual "waitlist". I went and double checked the fare codes and saw PZ6.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.
You may be able sponsor one with each currency, but I believe you have to split the PNR, and while the most likely result of upgrading one reservation is for it to go to PZ5, it is possible that a single upgrade triggers UA’s computers to close the bucket entirely.
#525
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,958
Flying April 25th IAD-HND in premium plus. I just went into the upgrade offer section and for the first time I have ever seen the miles and money option says 6 seats left and not the usual "waitlist". I went and double checked the fare codes and saw PZ6.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.
Does this mean if I put for the miles and money or pluspoints it will immediately clear? Also could I have one upgrade sponsored with plus points and the other with miles and money, as my husband only has 40 pluspoints at the moment.