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Old Jul 28, 2018, 8:08 pm
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I have given up complaining to United. When the WiFi had issues it means I cannot watch the inflight entertainment. Take a book with me. Wish United would stop saying there is inflight entertainment on flights. Not for me.
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Old Jul 28, 2018, 10:56 pm
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United wifi does not appear to support explicit congestion notification. Instead, throttling is done via dropped packets.

Last edited by Resonant Programmer; Jul 30, 2018 at 3:02 am Reason: missing "not"
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Old Jul 29, 2018, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Resonant Programmer
United wifi does appear to support explicit congestion notification. Instead, throttling is done via dropped packets.
Dropped packets checks out -- stats from two recent flights on SkyWest below -- I believe both were EMB-175. Stats are about a week apart.

--- <hostname> ping statistics ---
5236 packets transmitted, 4912 packets received, 6.2% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = -8182.327/260.858/9782.737/471.315 ms

--- <hostname> ping statistics ---
9120 packets transmitted, 8500 packets received, 6.8% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 69.172/312.631/21581.934/551.511 ms

For those concerned about the bandwidth used to prepare these stats, a ping echo request is 32 bytes. So, 9,120 * 32 bytes = 291,840 bytes, or 291 KB -- less than one average web page. Spread over the entire flight.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
Flew SFO-EWR today and discovered after takeoff that WiFi was totally dead. It turns out that the circuit breaker had been tripped on the previous flight. It would have been nice if they had let us know prior to pushback that it wasn't going to be operable. I think that's the most frustrating part of this -- when the crew knows it won't be working but says absolutely nthing.
In three of these flights, SFO_EWR in the past four months, I have had ZERO flights where the wifi worked for internet and exactly ONE flight where the PDE was working.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by Aussienarelle
I have given up complaining to United. When the WiFi had issues it means I cannot watch the inflight entertainment. Take a book with me. Wish United would stop saying there is inflight entertainment on flights. Not for me.
I have called and sent emails to them. Nothing but a form return letter saying sorry it happened and telling me were to apply for a refund. You won't get any kind of even a minimal cash voucher. I got the impression that it happens so often they just don't care anymore. But for me it is an issue on these long TCONs when you expected to get some work done on the flight. Needless to say I no longer rely on getting work done in flight with UA.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:37 pm
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In some kind of weird parallel universe so far the WiFi on the two flights I've tried using it on today (IAD-DEN, B789; DEN-RNO A320) has worked quite well, while the WiFi in the UC (East?) was unusable to the point where I tethered my phone after a few futile tries.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:46 pm
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I complained about in-op wifi on two flights in one week and was called the day I submitted the complaint and got $100 voucher. Nice gesture, although frustrating to not have wifi and no announcement prior to departure even though the crew knew the wifi wasn't working.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:50 pm
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it is even more frustrating when the FA's say "the system is working' when you know it isnt and you have to tell them to reboot it. ugh.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by nomad420
I have called and sent emails to them. Nothing but a form return letter saying sorry it happened and telling me were to apply for a refund. You won't get any kind of even a minimal cash voucher. I got the impression that it happens so often they just don't care anymore. But for me it is an issue on these long TCONs when you expected to get some work done on the flight. Needless to say I no longer rely on getting work done in flight with UA.
I have different experiences.

When I purchase wifi in First - if I have issues I always get a proactive email within a day or so indicating a refund if issues.

If in economy - and connection issues for entertainment - I always get the appreciation email for an ecert and apology
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
I have different experiences.

If in economy - and connection issues for entertainment - I always get the appreciation email for an ecert and apology
Just did it, no ecert did get apology though :-)
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 2:41 pm
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I've had good luck recently on sUA 757-200s equipped with Gogo. Six flights in a row with good service. And the past two 777W TPACs have been good too. #Hopeful
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by raiachat
it is even more frustrating when the FA's say "the system is working' when you know it isnt and you have to tell them to reboot it. ugh.
What's more frustrating is when the purser tells you at wifi is not included in the price of the ticket - only seat and transportation. I then asked why do they send you an email the day before extolling the benefits of having wifi available on your upcoming flight. Kind of frustrating when it's a school day and you want to get work done for four hours. So he told me to call GS and ask them for compensation. I told him that GS counts on you to provide it. He was told no. A little more back and forth. He left.

He came back and said he contacted GS in SFO and they will be waiting for me at the door to discuss the issue. I told him that was a little overkill, but whatever. I also told him that I know that there will be nobody to meet me. He said that he knows the GS people at SFO and they assured him that someone would meet me. I said I know these people too and they most likely will not. More back and forth. He left. (I was hoping there would be since I was transferring to the SIN flight and would have loved to get the car to the Polaris lounge.)

Does anyone want to take a guess if anyone was waiting for me?
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by iluv2fly
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Does anyone want to take a guess if anyone was waiting for me?
I'm assuming you're offering 1-8 odds on that one, but what the heck - I'll say "no" to anyone waiting to meet you, and for a bonus, "no" to any further apologies or follow up.

Any chance you could describe the purser? Sounds like my usual experience flying eastbound from Asia.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I'm assuming you're offering 1-8 odds on that one, but what the heck - I'll say "no" to anyone waiting to meet you, and for a bonus, "no" to any further apologies or follow up.

Any chance you could describe the purser? Sounds like my usual experience flying eastbound from Asia.
Correct. Nobody.

Male in mid thirties. Actually very friendly. This was domestic and a s/CO crew.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by nomad420
Needless to say I no longer rely on getting work done in flight with UA.
lol. I let go of that expectation quite a while ago. Now I tell people "I may have wifi . . . if you don't hear from me, it means I don't."

Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
When I purchase wifi in First - if I have issues I always get a proactive email within a day or so indicating a refund if issues.
I have never received pro-active communication from UA relating to bad wifi.
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