Jan 3, 2014, 6:04 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
MM roll call thread: UA Million Miler/Multi-Million Miler Roll Call Thread
UA offers a way to earn status based on accumulative (lifetime) flight.
You can earn (the old fashioned way, same thresholds) higher status, but with MMers status, you will never fall below the MMer status level.
Frequently Asked Questions
Do I get a "permanent / lifetime" card?
No, you get an annual card, as everyone else does. It will have an MM insignia. A permanent card would not make sense because you may earn a higher status than your MMer status.
Do I need to do anything to maintain MMer status? Recent flights? 4 segments? some PQMs or PQDs
No, you need to do nothing.
Will 2MM flyers receive 2 RPUs annually?
Yes: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21007782-post85.html :
Will 3MM flyers receive 6 GPUs annually?
Yes. See above.
Since a 3MM flyer is also a 2MM flyer, will 3MM flyers also receive 2 RPUs annually?
According to an email exchange on 1/15/2014 with 1Kvoice as a 3MM LT 1K one should see 6 GPUs and 2 RPUs by end of January if one didn't fly the miles last year. Those xPUs in fact deposited 1/16/2014.
Pre-merger United 1MM flyers were promised two Confirmed Regional upgrades per year. Were they grandfathered into two RPUs per year?
No. And a class action suit claiming this was a breach of contract with pre-merger MM members was denied by a court, so this issue appears to be closed. For more: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...judgmt-ua.html
Pre-merger United 2MM flyers were promised a Red Carpet Club lounge membership for life. Will they be grandfathered into a lifetime United Club membership?
Yes, but they need to call the MileagePlus service center.
I was close to 2MM status before January 1, 2012, and was on a pace to reach 2MM BIS before January 1, 2013. Should I have received a lifetime membership?
Some have. Call the MileagePlus service center.
2 and 3 Million Miler Gift
Changed to RDM bonus in 2020
If I have Million Mile or Beyond status, do I have to fly 4 segments annually on UA/UX metal to keep my status?
Presently, no, for your earned MM status, nothing more is needed. However, if you want a higher elite status than one your Million Mile or Beyond status gives you, then you have to fly the 4 segments and credit to them to M+.
If I have Million Mile or Beyond status, do I have to earn PQDs to keep my status?
Presently, no, for your earned MM status, nothing more is needed. However, if you want a higher elite status than one your Million Mile or Beyond status gives you, then you have to earn the required PQDs for that status. Your Million Mile and Beyond status do not give you a jump start on PQDs, PQMs, or PQSes toward a higher elite status.
Million Mile Program FAQs
Terms and conditions for MileagePlus Million Miler companion benefit
FT thread: Million Miler companion benefit
Frequently Made Points (2012)
UA offers a way to earn status based on accumulative (lifetime) flight.
Lifetime Premier status
The Million Miler program grants lifetime Premier status to all qualifying members, even if they fly less in the future. Lifetime miles are earned based on the flight distance of United- and United Express®-operated flights. Basic Economy tickets do not earn lifetime flight miles.
(How are "lifetime miles" calculated for MileagePlus?)
Here are the status benefits of the Million Miler program:
The Million Miler program grants lifetime Premier status to all qualifying members, even if they fly less in the future. Lifetime miles are earned based on the flight distance of United- and United Express®-operated flights. Basic Economy tickets do not earn lifetime flight miles.
(How are "lifetime miles" calculated for MileagePlus?)
Here are the status benefits of the Million Miler program:
You can earn (the old fashioned way, same thresholds) higher status, but with MMers status, you will never fall below the MMer status level.
Annual companion Premier status
As a Million Miler, you may invite your spouse or significant other to share your current Premier status. This membership is nontransferable and will automatically renew each year unless you let us know otherwise.
See companion eligibility terms and conditions at the bottom of this page for more details.
To select or review your companion or to change your companion for the next calendar year, visit united.com/MMcompanion.
As a Million Miler, you may invite your spouse or significant other to share your current Premier status. This membership is nontransferable and will automatically renew each year unless you let us know otherwise.
See companion eligibility terms and conditions at the bottom of this page for more details.
To select or review your companion or to change your companion for the next calendar year, visit united.com/MMcompanion.
Do I get a "permanent / lifetime" card?
No, you get an annual card, as everyone else does. It will have an MM insignia. A permanent card would not make sense because you may earn a higher status than your MMer status.
Do I need to do anything to maintain MMer status? Recent flights? 4 segments? some PQMs or PQDs
No, you need to do nothing.
Will 2MM flyers receive 2 RPUs annually?
Yes: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21007782-post85.html :
Yes. See above.
Since a 3MM flyer is also a 2MM flyer, will 3MM flyers also receive 2 RPUs annually?
According to an email exchange on 1/15/2014 with 1Kvoice as a 3MM LT 1K one should see 6 GPUs and 2 RPUs by end of January if one didn't fly the miles last year. Those xPUs in fact deposited 1/16/2014.
Pre-merger United 1MM flyers were promised two Confirmed Regional upgrades per year. Were they grandfathered into two RPUs per year?
No. And a class action suit claiming this was a breach of contract with pre-merger MM members was denied by a court, so this issue appears to be closed. For more: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...judgmt-ua.html
Pre-merger United 2MM flyers were promised a Red Carpet Club lounge membership for life. Will they be grandfathered into a lifetime United Club membership?
Yes, but they need to call the MileagePlus service center.
I was close to 2MM status before January 1, 2012, and was on a pace to reach 2MM BIS before January 1, 2013. Should I have received a lifetime membership?
Some have. Call the MileagePlus service center.
2 and 3 Million Miler Gift
Changed to RDM bonus in 2020
If I have Million Mile or Beyond status, do I have to fly 4 segments annually on UA/UX metal to keep my status?
Presently, no, for your earned MM status, nothing more is needed. However, if you want a higher elite status than one your Million Mile or Beyond status gives you, then you have to fly the 4 segments and credit to them to M+.
If I have Million Mile or Beyond status, do I have to earn PQDs to keep my status?
Presently, no, for your earned MM status, nothing more is needed. However, if you want a higher elite status than one your Million Mile or Beyond status gives you, then you have to earn the required PQDs for that status. Your Million Mile and Beyond status do not give you a jump start on PQDs, PQMs, or PQSes toward a higher elite status.
Million Mile Program FAQs
Terms and conditions for MileagePlus Million Miler companion benefit
FT thread: Million Miler companion benefit
Frequently Made Points (2012)
- Many lifetime CO elites made gains with the new program:
- Lifetime silvers become lifetime golds
- Infinite elites became lifetime 1Ks
- Many lifetime UA elites made gains with the new program:
- The one-time adjustment to recalculate lifetime miles to be equal to lifetime PQM boosted most lifetime totals, and many people were elevated to the first or next tier of the MM program.
- The companion program benefited most elites.
- The addition of lifetime platinum to existing 2MMer grandfathered lifetime United Club membership was a benefit for all pre-existing 2MMers.
- The replacement of lifetime United Club with platinum was a benefit for those people between 1MM and 2MM lifetime miles who valued a higher upgrade priority.
- For people at or aiming toward 4MM, the introduction of lifetime GS at 4MM
- Leather luggage tags
- Many lifetime CO elites had losses with the new program:
- Moving forward, PQMs do not count toward lifetime status.
- Many lifetime UA elites had losses with the new program:
- For 1MM and 2MM elites, the loss of 100% RDM bonus (reduced to 50% and 75% respectively)
- For 1MM elites, the loss of two annual CR-1s (nka RPUs)
- For people over 1MM but not "close enough" to 2MM, the loss of the opportunity to get lifetime United Club membership.
- The loss of one-time gifts of extra SWUs (nka GPUs)
- The inflation of membership numbers negating the significance of flying an actual one million BIS miles on UA metal, i.e. "Million Mile Flyers"
MileagePlus Million Mile (and Beyond) Flyer Benefits
Sep 4, 2015, 9:48 pm
#316
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,857
Sep 5, 2015, 6:00 am
#317
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: san antonio, texas
Programs: 3.2MM AA, 1.4MM UA,StwdLftPlt
Posts: 1,586
For now. I am confident that there are active discussions in Willis Tower about how to devalue MM status since we represent an obvious "overentitlement" to the airline-in many cases, the majority of contributions to the airline's revenue in the past and now only taking advantage of the benefits.
Sep 5, 2015, 6:47 am
#318
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
Programs: UA "Lifetime" Gold, AS MVPG100K, OW Emerald, HH Lifetime Diamond, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 9,490
For now. I am confident that there are active discussions in Willis Tower about how to devalue MM status since we represent an obvious "overentitlement" to the airline-in many cases, the majority of contributions to the airline's revenue in the past and now only taking advantage of the benefits.
Now that UA has established twice in court (Million Miler and Silver Wings lawsuits) that they can remove "lifetime" benefits with impunity, lounge access on international flights could be next on the chopping block.
Visits to other airline lounges cost UA money, and incremental restrictions such as access only when on UA metal or access only to UA lounges would save them money. Alternatively, they could just cancel it as a benefit. It's worth taking a little heat to improve your bottom line and they'd still have a few defenders in any event.
Sep 6, 2015, 12:02 am
#319
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
Programs: UA1K, LH GM, AA EXP->GM
Posts: 38,265
Good point on the status vs the accrued lifetime miles. SQ and CX customers got shafted in comparable manners.
Yup. At this stage it isn't more than a not-so-steep slippery slope. Still if it happens chez AA, worse things may grow @UA.
Hence my concerns. Any loophole - and be it ever so bizarre - would be most welcome to exploit.
While certainly the goal, like WineCountryUA, I believe that they will take a slight detour. An easy move that solves more than one issue is to devalue the Gold status per se - offering the same *A lounge benefit as on domestic route aka as none.
..A different set of circumstances -- still undesirable.
Hence my concerns. Any loophole - and be it ever so bizarre - would be most welcome to exploit.
While certainly the goal, like WineCountryUA, I believe that they will take a slight detour. An easy move that solves more than one issue is to devalue the Gold status per se - offering the same *A lounge benefit as on domestic route aka as none.
Sep 6, 2015, 7:33 am
#320
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: san antonio, texas
Programs: 3.2MM AA, 1.4MM UA,StwdLftPlt
Posts: 1,586
I waver between something on the revenue side-you gotta keep flying us to maintain your MM benefits-to something more draconian on the benefit side-too many 1MM members- so we are going to knock everyone down a notch and eliminate that category.
Unfortunately, the MM devaluation early in the merger (at that point in combining two large enterprises some might say they had larger fish to fry) points to the latter. Club access-one of my largest uses of the MM benefit-would be a straightforward devaluation.
Unfortunately, the MM devaluation early in the merger (at that point in combining two large enterprises some might say they had larger fish to fry) points to the latter. Club access-one of my largest uses of the MM benefit-would be a straightforward devaluation.
Sep 6, 2015, 8:53 am
#321
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Port St Lucie, FL, UA1K since 1994 and 3mm, Delta 1mm
Programs: Marriott Titanium Life, Hilton Gold
Posts: 566
I waver between something on the revenue side-you gotta keep flying us to maintain your MM benefits-to something more draconian on the benefit side-too many 1MM members- so we are going to knock everyone down a notch and eliminate that category.
Unfortunately, the MM devaluation early in the merger (at that point in combining two large enterprises some might say they had larger fish to fry) points to the latter. Club access-one of my largest uses of the MM benefit-would be a straightforward devaluation.
Unfortunately, the MM devaluation early in the merger (at that point in combining two large enterprises some might say they had larger fish to fry) points to the latter. Club access-one of my largest uses of the MM benefit-would be a straightforward devaluation.
Regarding the loss of club on international legs - as long as they keep the status that it is equivalent to *G then it should not disappear as it is a reciprocal *A benefit.
Sep 6, 2015, 9:08 am
#322
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
Programs: UA "Lifetime" Gold, AS MVPG100K, OW Emerald, HH Lifetime Diamond, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 9,490
Remember a UA Insider announcement in 2011:
"Here are the new lifetime benefits..."
Sep 6, 2015, 9:44 am
#323
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
Programs: UA1K, LH GM, AA EXP->GM
Posts: 38,265
And as this affect many foreign MMs, it may bring UA in the unwanted water of foreign jurisdiction. I am quite sure they don't want to test this in the UK or France.
Nov 3, 2015, 10:36 am
#327
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 15,025
MM status, in itself, is not an indicator of current value to UA.
Last edited by IAH-OIL-TRASH; Nov 3, 2015 at 11:14 am
May 2, 2016, 1:09 pm
#329
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1
Million Miler Worth It? Devaluation? MR Considered
Little help needed because I've been away from UA for a few years (and pretty inactive on FlyerTalk -- Back in the day, I was PremEx2000 and ChicagoBound but forgot my passwords).
Quick question: I'm at 925,000 lifetime miles. I earned 1K the hard way (100+ segments back in the 1990s). And I did my share of mileage runs (with some of you, I might add), to Singapore, Hong Kong, Amsterdam, Rio, etc. Now I'm considering biting the bullet and just doing three mileage runs to Singapore or similar. That, along with my other miles this year should get me over 1,000,000. But has UA devalued Million Miler status so much that even spending ~$2400 for these mileage runs doesn't make it worth it? Curious as to your thoughts? And are there rumors out there that UA will further devalue Million Miler status (or get rid of it altogether), such that if I don't do it this year, I might never get to do it (or it would be even less worth doing)?
Quick question: I'm at 925,000 lifetime miles. I earned 1K the hard way (100+ segments back in the 1990s). And I did my share of mileage runs (with some of you, I might add), to Singapore, Hong Kong, Amsterdam, Rio, etc. Now I'm considering biting the bullet and just doing three mileage runs to Singapore or similar. That, along with my other miles this year should get me over 1,000,000. But has UA devalued Million Miler status so much that even spending ~$2400 for these mileage runs doesn't make it worth it? Curious as to your thoughts? And are there rumors out there that UA will further devalue Million Miler status (or get rid of it altogether), such that if I don't do it this year, I might never get to do it (or it would be even less worth doing)?
May 2, 2016, 1:24 pm
#330
Join Date: May 2001
Location: exUA1K, UA MM, lifetime UA1P, AA MM, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,731
I worked had to get my 1MM status,
Then UA sold out and ripped away some promised benefits.
After a number of additional mistreatments, I avoid UA now.
I only redeem my MP miles now on other carriers that treat their PAX with respect.
To me, the MM status is useless. I already get lounge access with Business Class awards. My wife couldn't care less about her matched Gold "status".
You will need to decide for yourself.
Then UA sold out and ripped away some promised benefits.
After a number of additional mistreatments, I avoid UA now.
I only redeem my MP miles now on other carriers that treat their PAX with respect.
To me, the MM status is useless. I already get lounge access with Business Class awards. My wife couldn't care less about her matched Gold "status".
You will need to decide for yourself.