Last edit by: WineCountryUA
As of the last update from an inside source, the meal choice prioritization policy is to prioritize in this order:
1. Global Services
2. Premier 1K
3. All other revenue passengers
4. Nonrevs
This prioritization is done in the galley, after taking orders. If you saw a flight crew take orders front to back, but did not see any GS/1K passengers denied their first choice, you have not witnessed a violation of the policy. Indeed, taking orders front to back is correct under the policy.
Post #30
Hi, UA-NYC,
Yes, your assertion is accurate. Premier 1K will still be prioritized as you stated, but again, this is to be done in the galley.
-UA Insider
1. Global Services
2. Premier 1K
3. All other revenue passengers
4. Nonrevs
This prioritization is done in the galley, after taking orders. If you saw a flight crew take orders front to back, but did not see any GS/1K passengers denied their first choice, you have not witnessed a violation of the policy. Indeed, taking orders front to back is correct under the policy.
Post #30
Hi everyone,
As several of you have mentioned, there has been no procedure change to prioritizing premium cabin meal orders.
As a reminder, our standard procedure is to take meal orders from front to back of the cabin and ask for a second choice in case your first choice is not available. After meal orders are taken, our inflight crew will prioritize meal orders in the galley. This way, we can streamline the order-taking processes while eliminating skipping around the cabin for order-taking.
-UA Insider
As several of you have mentioned, there has been no procedure change to prioritizing premium cabin meal orders.
As a reminder, our standard procedure is to take meal orders from front to back of the cabin and ask for a second choice in case your first choice is not available. After meal orders are taken, our inflight crew will prioritize meal orders in the galley. This way, we can streamline the order-taking processes while eliminating skipping around the cabin for order-taking.
-UA Insider
Yes, your assertion is accurate. Premier 1K will still be prioritized as you stated, but again, this is to be done in the galley.
-UA Insider
Current UA Process for Prioritizing Meal Orders in Premium Cabins [ARCHIVE]
#1861
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Yes, you are correct, technically I don't know this. Only 1 GS pre-boarded but F was full within 5 minutes of boarding commencing. The fact remains that the process of prioritizing wasn't followed. How do I know this? The lady to my right got the last salmon - actually the FA left it up to us to decide who would get it. He went from front to back and by the time he reached us he said we're out of salmon - only 1 left. Which of you wants it? I was in row 4. If you are GS and choose the bulkhead I guess you should get your salmon though!
#1862
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Yes, you are correct, technically I don't know this. Only 1 GS pre-boarded but F was full within 5 minutes of boarding commencing. The fact remains that the process of prioritizing wasn't followed. How do I know this? The lady to my right got the last salmon - actually the FA left it up to us to decide who would get it. He went from front to back and by the time he reached us he said we're out of salmon - only 1 left. Which of you wants it? I was in row 4. If you are GS and choose the bulkhead I guess you should get your salmon though!
#1863
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Washington DC
Programs: Former 1k, Lifetime UA Gold, Starwood Gold; Avis Preferred; Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,732
That's true I suppose. I still am dogged in my insistence they didn't consider status. Usually the FA will come by with the manifest... Say my name and ask for first or second choice. When they do that they know my name and status.. The FA in this case didn't have a manifest. Didn't know my name and presumably not my status. Just had a piece of paper he was writing orders on.
#1864
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Alameda, CA, USA
Posts: 799
I had a new and different experience in biz on SFO-NRT 2 days ago. The FA went front to back, asked my seatmate what he wanted, he ordered the Japanese meal...
She took at least 20 seconds while she scanned a list, then told him it was OK. I ordered the Seafood and she immediatly said "that's fine".
Another odd thing happened. 3 choices are listed for arrival: cereal, eggs or an Asian meal, usually consisting of noodles -- this time Pork Katsu.
EVERY time I am offered only the first 2 choices. EVERY time I ask for the Asian meal and am told they ran out or sometimes they never had it in the first place.
This time was the same, but this time I wanted to know WHY can I NEVER have that Asian meal? Is it because its reserved for Japanese passengers? The Japanese FA got very embarrassed and after some hemming and hawing (while I stared at her waiting for an answer), she said they only load 4 and they give them to the GS passengers. I shrugged and let it go.
A few minutes later the Purser (I think she was, not positive), came over to me and apologized. She admitted they do give priority of those meals to their Japanese customers because that's "all they can eat".
I just looked at her and said "wow".
Since when is my race a factor in what service or meal I get?
She took at least 20 seconds while she scanned a list, then told him it was OK. I ordered the Seafood and she immediatly said "that's fine".
Another odd thing happened. 3 choices are listed for arrival: cereal, eggs or an Asian meal, usually consisting of noodles -- this time Pork Katsu.
EVERY time I am offered only the first 2 choices. EVERY time I ask for the Asian meal and am told they ran out or sometimes they never had it in the first place.
This time was the same, but this time I wanted to know WHY can I NEVER have that Asian meal? Is it because its reserved for Japanese passengers? The Japanese FA got very embarrassed and after some hemming and hawing (while I stared at her waiting for an answer), she said they only load 4 and they give them to the GS passengers. I shrugged and let it go.
A few minutes later the Purser (I think she was, not positive), came over to me and apologized. She admitted they do give priority of those meals to their Japanese customers because that's "all they can eat".
I just looked at her and said "wow".
Since when is my race a factor in what service or meal I get?
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#1865
Join Date: Aug 2013
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The last part is more what I am used to. Flying PS from JFK to SFO with my GF and a full flight. Sitting beside me she is asked for her first and second choices. Then the FA asks what I would like (1K) I tell him my first and then start to tell my second choice and he chuckles and says that won't be necessary. Took that to mean there aren't enough 1K/GS to prevent me from getting my beef! Luckily the GF is a vegetarian so the noodles were an easy grab with no status.
#1866
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP Marriott Titanium
Posts: 202
5/24 IAD-SEA order was taken from front to back with no mention to status, since I sit in 1A I got my first choice.
5/26 MCO-SFO FA took order for all 1Ks from back to front, I was the last 1K to be asked, I purposely chose 1A because I want to make sure I have choice fortunately when FA got to me all 3 choices were still available
5/26 MCO-SFO FA took order for all 1Ks from back to front, I was the last 1K to be asked, I purposely chose 1A because I want to make sure I have choice fortunately when FA got to me all 3 choices were still available
#1867
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: UA GS, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 64
I was on a flight from Chicago to San Francisco recently. I was in the last row of FC and as I heard the FA move from front to back, he started mentioning less and less options. When he finally got to me, he only offered one menu item and nothing else. I asked about the other menu items and he said they were unavailable.
I asked him if he was prioritizing based on status. He then asked what my status was (1k) and then asked me what I wanted. I told him and then he went to the last passenger that ordered it and said "the guy with status wants your meal so you will have to have XYZ."
Was this really necessary? It made me uncomfortable and made it embarrassing for the other passenger - someone who may have paid full fare - no status? If the FA followed the protocol, it would have avoided this awkward situation. Unfortunately, the meal was terrible and I wished I hadn't ordered it in the first place. Go figure.
I asked him if he was prioritizing based on status. He then asked what my status was (1k) and then asked me what I wanted. I told him and then he went to the last passenger that ordered it and said "the guy with status wants your meal so you will have to have XYZ."
Was this really necessary? It made me uncomfortable and made it embarrassing for the other passenger - someone who may have paid full fare - no status? If the FA followed the protocol, it would have avoided this awkward situation. Unfortunately, the meal was terrible and I wished I hadn't ordered it in the first place. Go figure.
#1868
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AADULtArer
Posts: 5,931
I was on a flight from Chicago to San Francisco recently. I was in the last row of FC and as I heard the FA move from front to back, he started mentioning less and less options. When he finally got to me, he only offered one menu item and nothing else. I asked about the other menu items and he said they were unavailable.
I asked him if he was prioritizing based on status. He then asked what my status was (1k) and then asked me what I wanted. I told him and then he went to the last passenger that ordered it and said "the guy with status wants your meal so you will have to have XYZ."
Was this really necessary? It made me uncomfortable and made it embarrassing for the other passenger - someone who may have paid full fare - no status? If the FA followed the protocol, it would have avoided this awkward situation. Unfortunately, the meal was terrible and I wished I hadn't ordered it in the first place. Go figure.
I asked him if he was prioritizing based on status. He then asked what my status was (1k) and then asked me what I wanted. I told him and then he went to the last passenger that ordered it and said "the guy with status wants your meal so you will have to have XYZ."
Was this really necessary? It made me uncomfortable and made it embarrassing for the other passenger - someone who may have paid full fare - no status? If the FA followed the protocol, it would have avoided this awkward situation. Unfortunately, the meal was terrible and I wished I hadn't ordered it in the first place. Go figure.
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#1869
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: HNL
Programs: United Gold
Posts: 1,581
Did SFO-HNL today and the FA asked everyone for 2 choices. Then I noticed her in the galley looking at her notes and what I assume was a passenger manifest.
In my opinion this is the best way to do it, with one of the downsides being that someone might have to settle for the 3rd option as their first two were out.
I got my first choice (short ribs) which was delicious, the dessert (vanilla chocolate chip something) unfortunately was not.
In my opinion this is the best way to do it, with one of the downsides being that someone might have to settle for the 3rd option as their first two were out.
I got my first choice (short ribs) which was delicious, the dessert (vanilla chocolate chip something) unfortunately was not.
#1870
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
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Posts: 4,424
Don't be too impressed. Half the time I pre-order on AA, it's either not communicated from the Website to the airplane, or my name is on the manifest for a choice but not enough meals of the type I requested were loaded (and as a lowly AA GLD I lose out to PLT and EXP who pre-ordered).
#1871
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MFR
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,907
Don't be too impressed. Half the time I pre-order on AA, it's either not communicated from the Website to the airplane, or my name is on the manifest for a choice but not enough meals of the type I requested were loaded (and as a lowly AA GLD I lose out to PLT and EXP who pre-ordered).
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#1872
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: DC|NYC
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This entire thread is ridiculous. The issue is that United does not board enough meals so that each passenger has his/her own choice of entre. There is not a respectable international carrier that does not board enough options that each passenger has the choice. My recent flight on Etihad completely changed my perspective on this. United is running the premium classes like they are a third class airline, at best with respect to catering. No guaranteed first choice entre, low quality wines, club soda instead of sparkling water and ridiculous coffee, not to mention not having espresso and cappuccino like other premium cabins.
#1873
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 1,051
On 3 class plane (Y-BF-GF), since GF and BF have the same entree, does GF trump BF? Ie Front to Back, GS and 1k for GF, then on to BF...
#1874
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ, QF, UA, CO, DL
Posts: 3,033
This entire thread is ridiculous. The issue is that United does not board enough meals so that each passenger has his/her own choice of entre. There is not a respectable international carrier that does not board enough options that each passenger has the choice. My recent flight on Etihad completely changed my perspective on this. United is running the premium classes like they are a third class airline, at best with respect to catering. No guaranteed first choice entre, low quality wines, club soda instead of sparkling water and ridiculous coffee, not to mention not having espresso and cappuccino like other premium cabins.
I don't think UA is willing to spend much more on catering to either improve the quality or quantity of meals to ensure first choice. The fact they are prioritizing proves that.
Once upon a time there were two airlines, one of which innovated by introducing p.s. service on transcons, explus which brought FC to regionals, and economy plus to provide more legroom to its most frequent travelers. The other airline concentrated on providing a better inflight experience (such as better meals) than its competitors. And then they merged resulting in no more innovation, sad meals, sadder wines, and poor operational performance. However the executive team's compensation soared and they felt all was well with the world.
Yes it should and in my experience always has.
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#1875
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: UA MileagePlus 2MM
Posts: 1,569
This entire thread is ridiculous. The issue is that United does not board enough meals so that each passenger has his/her own choice of entre. There is not a respectable international carrier that does not board enough options that each passenger has the choice. My recent flight on Etihad completely changed my perspective on this. United is running the premium classes like they are a third class airline, at best with respect to catering. No guaranteed first choice entre, low quality wines, club soda instead of sparkling water and ridiculous coffee, not to mention not having espresso and cappuccino like other premium cabins.
UA has to make money for a few years, then maybe they will load the meals required to compete. Give them a break, they have just overcome 15 years of very tough operating environments.
US carriers operate in their own sphere and have lost billions of dollars since 9/11, and even before our premiere carriers like TWA, Pan Am, Eastern and Braniff disappeared because the US Govt doesn't want to be seen as supporting money losing operations. And I know we have chapter 11 which is an unfair advantage. But Pan Am was an instrument of the US Govt and when they were going through the last shudder of life they were allowed to die - despite all the innovations they brought to aviation and all they did for our national interest - like volunteering to fly into Saigon to rescue staff and Americans before the city fell to North Vietnamese forces. US carriers operate under incredible domestic competition and their operations are based over several domestic hubs (like 5 or 6) compared to European, Middle Eastern and Asian carriers who may have at most most 2 hubs but usually one super hub. I would argue, with US Airline consolidation, and subsequently record profits, that US carriers have the potential to come up for breath and in the next few years offer a better soft product to rival their foreign counterparts.
So when you don't get your first choice of meal on UA, just remember despite all their cancellations, when they operate they safely get you to your destination. They don't take off on runways under construction, they don't (apart from UAX) overshoot runways, they don't land in fields a mile short of the runway, they don't end up in fragrant harbors, they don't flip over on landing in Narita or Hong Kong during Typhoons, and the list goes goes on.
Everyone loves to hate US carriers at the moment, but in 1985 or 1986 I remember reading in the Economist how TWA and Pan Am were killing BA and the European carriers. Things change fast. I am not saying that having flight attendants who are still flying in their 80's is innovative, or I am proud of how lousy the food and operational dependency of UA is compared to already mentioned foreign carriers. But I see the tide turning ever so slowly. And hopefully soon we will no longer be the laughing stock but a respected global competitor. Because that will be a benefit to the traveling world and good for everyone!
Adam