gengar

Good to hear that.


US-based carriers never seem to do the night departures. I'd expect the historical 1-2pm departure.

Jorgen

Hey, AF's not your only option. I noticed at SFO there's big signs up welcoming the arrival of "XL Airways" for a daily seasonal nonstop to CDG.

I must admit I'd never actually heard of XL before. Apparently though, if you feel like travelling nine-abreast in an A330 for twelve hours, they're your guys! They'll also take you from CDG to fun destinations like Agadir, Larnaca and Djerba, so this provides a much-needed one-stop option for the popular SFO-Djerba route.

Seriously though, can't complain about a new SFO-CDG on *A metal, especially not a newly-reconfigured (?) 763.

RJNYC

I think I read somewhere that ORD-CDG and/or IAD-CDG is going 2 class ex-ghetto bird in the fall.

Cbmaz

Not yet. It'll be a done deal when the new UA pulls out the Flight Attendant and Pilot Training centers, along with the pilot simulators, one or both res centers, the rest of the Smith St. and Jefferson St. operations ect.... All this was committed to Houston when the merge was signed. The city of Dallas turned WN down when they proposed the same international operation at DAL instead of DFW and they are headquartered in Dallas. Why would the new UA still commit billions of dollars to Houston? As was reported, UA will keep a sizeable operation at IAH but me thinks that most of the support ops will be moved elswere. I'm sure Cleveland would love a new UA res center and all of the jobs that comes with it. The real estate is just as cheap.

pigx5

Are you joking?

UA-NYC

Lots of twisting with this statement - to recap for you:

- Generally speaking, 752 experience less desirable than a widebody, net-net
- 752s okay on thin routes that otherwise wouldn't get service (2nd tier UK destinations and the like)
- 752s not okay to 1st tier cities (such as Paris)
- 752s not okay when it pushes the a/c limits (such as westbound CDG/AMS-IAD)

AA_EXP09

Ideally it would be EWR-YVR-TPE. I think that it would make for more competition vs CX and YVR-TPE routes I have noticed (they depart at almost the same time as CX889) are becoming very full.

JAaronT

They wouldn't be able to sell YVR-TPE.

RJNYC

Agreed. Last month did 752s EWR-CDG (in BF was rather unremarkable) and CDG-IAD (in Y and was pretty long and uncomfortable by the end even without a visit to Gander). On the return, got trapped in the aft lav/gallery area while FAs did a drink service. On a wide-body, there may have been an alternative route to my seat.

username

Some of my thoughts on the resumption of SFOTPE:

1 - government approval might be some kind of codeshare with EVA, not for operating the route

2 - UA is likely to keep the original 845/844 schedule. Departing SFO/TPE early afternoon and arrive TPE/SFO early evening/mid morning. It is probably more about feeding people into UA's US network rather than into BR's network out of TPE (since the time won't be optimal)

3 - Let's hope it will last this time

4 - TPENRT does have a decent load and following and provides decent connections to the US. It seems the smallest they should downguage should be to a 767 but I am sure a 767 is better used elsewhere...

boss315

+1

uastarflyer

Should be a sticky in Houston. ^

goalie

Thank you ^ and there were others who thought like you as well as I had "just a few" e-mails and texts this morning. Now as to award and/or upgrade space methinks this one is gonna be tough to clear in general as I think it's gonna be one of those "prized routes" (and especially in the early days of the route and given that starts in April and primed for summer travel after that)

SST

I've actually been to Djerba; it's quite special (and now perhaps there are fewer secret police) and lovely. Don't knock it. Agadir is pretty at the beach, too. Morocco and Tunisia are quite the vacation spots for Europeans. Perhaps that's why XL picks SFO (and this isn't the first year they've served it). It's also a favorite for Europeans. Look for their planes to be jam packed in August; other times, my sister in law reported that you may have the row to yourself, which I can hardly expect on United these days....

EmailKid

I was talking about done deal for city of Houston, not UA. UA will bluster, but eventually get on with business. And as someone pointed out (perhaps in the original thread about new terminal), there's a good chance that's what UA had in mind all along.

EmailKid