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ULMFlyer Apr 14, 2012 1:46 pm

Yesterday, I booked a last minute PIT-ORD-GRU-GIG flight. Since PIT-ORD was full in First, I was ticketed Y/D/D. No problem.

When I realized I wasn't going to make it to the airport, I switched online to PIT-IAD-GRU-GIG. However, even though there were F seats available on PIT-IAD, my new ticket remained Y/D/D.

Now, I believe this is the way CO has always done things like this, but I was wondering if PMUA had a smarter system that would have switched me to F/D/D which I would have gotten had I done the original booking through IAD. Or if I should expect any changes in the future.

I suppose an agent could have fixed this for me, but I didn't want to call while madly driving to the airport. And by the time I called after checking in, they said only the gate agent could help me. Again, no big deal, since I ended up #1 on the UL, was upgraded, and it was only a 30 min flight anyway. I'm just curious about the system's flexibility for future travel purposes.

eknock007 Apr 14, 2012 2:04 pm

Well the ability to upgrade online is still broken for me. No way to do an upgrade either with miles or cash. I can call it in but I think I will just wait to do it during OLCI. I just don't feel like dealing with CS's anymore that constantly put you on hold and give you scripted information. My last call about a refund lasted 45 minutes and 40 of those were spent on hold because I presume the CS' did not know what to do. On a side note, it was also one of the worst CS' experiences I've ever had with UA. On that call about the status of the refund, the CS notice that the change fee had been waive. Well that all of a sudden became the focus of the conversation. I briefly gave her a lesson about customer service and demanded that she change her focus to figuring out what was happening with the refund. But she kept on talking about the waived change fee and trying to figure out why it had been waived. She even reasoned that maybe that was the reason why the refund had not gone through. Well the change fee had been waived because I could not do any changes to my itinerary online w/in 24 hours of booking and I had to call it in. Well the booking occurred a couple days after 3/3. I was finally able to get through to a CS (after waiting 4.5 hours and pulling an all-nighter) aproximately 36 hours after I had made my reservation. The reservation was done 3/5 and I was able to change the return flight on 3/7. Here I am explaining this to her as the reason for the fee waive, and by now I am very agitated. After 45 minutes, no info on the refund and as a last parting shot, she proceeded to give me lesson on rules for ticket changes and how CS' had been available 24 hours a day and that I should have made every attempt at changing the ticket even if it meant waiting hours at a time and that the fact that they were experiencing website problems and call volume issues was no excuse. I promptly told her to keep the refund and I hung up. You know in hindsight I should have just booked with AS.

WineCountryUA Apr 14, 2012 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by SeattleFred (Post 18392528)
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.

What do you think should have happen? Date of purchase should have priority over Fare Class?

demosthenes1 Apr 14, 2012 7:40 pm

I guess this could go on the upgrades aren't clearing thread, but it does seem conversion related. Today I had two flights that passed through my first (96 hour) upgrade window. The second had an upgrade sweep that acted as expected--R dropped from 9 to 3 and my upgrade cleared.

The first, however, did not. A reasonably full RJ with all signs suggesting an empty first class (F and A = 6, R=4, no seats taken on the seat map). No sign of any of that changing as the upgrade window should have passed. We're now at about T-88. I can think of three potential reasons. Either we are still experiencing the system not working because someone's ticket is out of sync. Or there really are times when R=4 is not sufficient. Or maybe there's an issue since this is a Shuttle America flight.

travelcomments Apr 14, 2012 8:36 pm

E-mail from "Corporate Customer Care" in response to having sent an e-mail to 1K about three weeks ago:

"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."

I have spent about 8 hours on the phone since 3/3 for issues which should (a) never have gone wrong, or (b) would have been fixed in a few minutes in the past. And all I am being told is to call the 1K line. Thank you very much.

At least I can rest assured: "This (thankfully) once-in-a-lifetime conversion was tough, but successful."

I'd like drink whatever UA(CO) is drinking....

SeattleFred Apr 14, 2012 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 18394404)
What do you think should have happen? Date of purchase should have priority over Fare Class?

If you buy an upgrade-eligible fare (ie, basically all domestic fares), yes. Really, who is going to buy up to a T-fare? Can you even do this without calling?

Of course, if you buy a Y- or B-up fare, you jump to the head of the line if you don't clear on purchase.

WineCountryUA Apr 14, 2012 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by SeattleFred (Post 18395164)

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 18394404)
What do you think should have happen? Date of purchase should have priority over Fare Class?

If you buy an upgrade-eligible fare (ie, basically all domestic fares), yes. ...

Fare class after status has been the policy for UDU (and now CPU) since the beginning.



Originally Posted by SeattleFred (Post 18395164)
.... Really, who is going to buy up to a T-fare? Can you even do this without calling? .....

you can do this on the "new" united site (could not on the PMUA site)

calche Apr 14, 2012 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by LAXOGG (Post 18381057)
Looks like GPU's and RPU's earned during 2012 are posting. My RPU's posted yesterday and my GPU's posted today.

Interesting points:

1. The expiration dates are the dates actually posted to my account and not the actual dates earned. In my case, two extra months of life. Seems logical because I did not have effective use of the Upgrade Instruments during the period of time that they were withheld from my account. I was ready to argue if UA had tried to backdate the Instruments and I am somewhat surprised that they didn't try to do this. Maybe they realized the kind of blunder they created in an attempt to reduce mileage earned with a "shrinking globe".

2. Like a number of others here, I received 150% mileage bonus for NC upgrades that cleared on PMUA prior to 3/3 and showed up as Z in my account summary. These bonuses have not been corrected. The aggregate amount of my "mistake" bonuses is in excess of 15,000 miles, enough to award me 2 additional RPU's that I should not have received credit for. Maybe a decision has been reached to "let these slide". Otherwise, it would seem to be a rather lame approach to go back in, correct the mistake Z bonuses and then take away GPU's and RPU's. But maybe that is just another example of the inept IT department trying to fix the problems (that they created in the first place) at the new UA.

Thanks for the encouraging note. I still have 2 GPUs that have yet to be reposted after two months. I'll keep watching and hoping that someday they will reappear (probably on the day they expire ;)

halls120 Apr 15, 2012 5:03 am


Originally Posted by travelcomments (Post 18394941)
E-mail from "Corporate Customer Care" in response to having sent an e-mail to 1K about three weeks ago:

"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."

isn't the number above the old 1K desk number? It's now the "premier priority desk?". Just another indication that 1K means nothing at the new United. :td::td:

exerda Apr 15, 2012 5:39 am


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 18396128)
isn't the number above the old 1K desk number? It's now the "premier priority desk?". Just another indication that 1K means nothing at the new United. :td::td:

I called the 1K desk last night to make a change to an award reservation; HAL picked up an welcomed me to the "Premier Priority" line. The agent I got was great and sounded like a PMUA 1K agent, but I was a bit surprised that HAL specifically identified the line as "Premier Priority." (This was of course after I had had to repeat "YES" three times, and "existing reservation" twice--the IVR sure seems worse these days than in those of yore...)



Originally Posted by SeattleFred (Post 18395164)
If you buy an upgrade-eligible fare (ie, basically all domestic fares), yes. Really, who is going to buy up to a T-fare? Can you even do this without calling?

Of course, if you buy a Y- or B-up fare, you jump to the head of the line if you don't clear on purchase.

You can specify fare class at time of booking (that was the one benefit PMCO's web site brought over PMUA .bomb), but TMK you cannot buy up (aside from offers to buy up to a F-eligible fare) without calling in--and will then get dinged with a change fee to boot.

iquitos Apr 15, 2012 5:55 am

Rio trip Friday the 13th
 
Never managed to check in online due to systems glitches. Was also unable to check in at the kiosk so had to rely on a patient PMUA employee to work her way through the new system to generate boarding asses. Seemed like they had a lot of people on the counters compared to normal. It appears I may have actually been checked in (or at least the system had captured all my check in data) but the system would not issue the boarding passes or tell me I was already checked in so I would not keep trying. On positive side the 777 with in setback EFI screen is great. Makes traveling in the back of the plane much better. Service was with a smile the whole way. Dulles lounge was SRO. Food was edible. Drink chits helped.

kwb007 Apr 15, 2012 9:35 am

I'm updated
 
It is with great relief that I can announce that my account is finally updated. RPU/GPUs posted, star alliance flights finally posted, mileage short due to CO mileage tables has been been posted. My account actually has exactly the same amount of miles as what I manually track. I suppose I shouldn't be this exited but I am. Well done.

gsvt Apr 15, 2012 11:18 am


Originally Posted by signothetimes53 (Post 18392261)
My experience, too.

Still waiting on a segment from 3/8, on UAE/Colgan. Filed Missing Miles report 3 weeks ago, no response. Talked to CS agent last Monday, promised it would get credited within 24 hours. Still nothing.

I also have a Colgan flight from 3/8 that hasn't posted, in my case from IAD to BTV.

And recently only 1of 9 flights has posted within 72 hours.

signothetimes53 Apr 15, 2012 11:45 am


Originally Posted by gsvt (Post 18397705)
I also have a Colgan flight from 3/8 that hasn't posted, in my case from IAD to BTV.

We might have been on the same flight, UA3921.

This morning I called Customer Service again. She tells me there is no "comments record" of my having talked with CS a week ago.

Then she laboriously proceeds to extract all of the flight info from me verbally and manually enters everything in, says it is easier (!) than trying to call up the info in their own system.

15 minutes later, she says that I should see the miles in 3 to 5 days. I believe her. I also believe that the Easter Bunny and Elwood P. Dowd's friend Harvey are real.

15 minutes (!!!!) to process one lousy less-than-500-miles missing mileage segment?!?

Quote from Mr. Smisek:

"Is this any way to run an airline?!? You bet it is!"

ijgordon Apr 15, 2012 11:56 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 18394404)

Originally Posted by SeattleFred (Post 18392528)
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.

What do you think should have happen? Date of purchase should have priority over Fare Class?

Well, this is exactly how it works on AA, so the poster is more than welcome to switch programs if that's what's important to him.

But then we'll probably hear him complain when he has to purchase a $750 last minute ticket and is the last 100k on the list, with the $250 fares sitting up front.


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