March 3rd, 2012 System Integration Master Thread (PSS)
#3016



Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bellingham
Programs: UA Gold MM
Posts: 732
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.
#3017
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 7,541
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.
She paid for her ticket more than you even though it was the least expensive ticket at the time... The system worked...
End of story, nothing to see or complain about here except for your failure to purchase a higher fare for the upgrade.
#3018
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PSM
Posts: 69,232
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.
#3019
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: PIT
Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, Amex Plat
Posts: 314
Yesterday, I booked a last minute PIT-ORD-GRU-GIG flight. Since PIT-ORD was full in First, I was ticketed Y/D/D. No problem.
When I realized I wasn't going to make it to the airport, I switched online to PIT-IAD-GRU-GIG. However, even though there were F seats available on PIT-IAD, my new ticket remained Y/D/D.
Now, I believe this is the way CO has always done things like this, but I was wondering if PMUA had a smarter system that would have switched me to F/D/D which I would have gotten had I done the original booking through IAD. Or if I should expect any changes in the future.
I suppose an agent could have fixed this for me, but I didn't want to call while madly driving to the airport. And by the time I called after checking in, they said only the gate agent could help me. Again, no big deal, since I ended up #1 on the UL, was upgraded, and it was only a 30 min flight anyway. I'm just curious about the system's flexibility for future travel purposes.
When I realized I wasn't going to make it to the airport, I switched online to PIT-IAD-GRU-GIG. However, even though there were F seats available on PIT-IAD, my new ticket remained Y/D/D.
Now, I believe this is the way CO has always done things like this, but I was wondering if PMUA had a smarter system that would have switched me to F/D/D which I would have gotten had I done the original booking through IAD. Or if I should expect any changes in the future.
I suppose an agent could have fixed this for me, but I didn't want to call while madly driving to the airport. And by the time I called after checking in, they said only the gate agent could help me. Again, no big deal, since I ended up #1 on the UL, was upgraded, and it was only a 30 min flight anyway. I'm just curious about the system's flexibility for future travel purposes.
#3020

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: Peon status: last row in economy and the occassional upgrade at roach motels.
Posts: 617
Well the ability to upgrade online is still broken for me. No way to do an upgrade either with miles or cash. I can call it in but I think I will just wait to do it during OLCI. I just don't feel like dealing with CS's anymore that constantly put you on hold and give you scripted information. My last call about a refund lasted 45 minutes and 40 of those were spent on hold because I presume the CS' did not know what to do. On a side note, it was also one of the worst CS' experiences I've ever had with UA. On that call about the status of the refund, the CS notice that the change fee had been waive. Well that all of a sudden became the focus of the conversation. I briefly gave her a lesson about customer service and demanded that she change her focus to figuring out what was happening with the refund. But she kept on talking about the waived change fee and trying to figure out why it had been waived. She even reasoned that maybe that was the reason why the refund had not gone through. Well the change fee had been waived because I could not do any changes to my itinerary online w/in 24 hours of booking and I had to call it in. Well the booking occurred a couple days after 3/3. I was finally able to get through to a CS (after waiting 4.5 hours and pulling an all-nighter) aproximately 36 hours after I had made my reservation. The reservation was done 3/5 and I was able to change the return flight on 3/7. Here I am explaining this to her as the reason for the fee waive, and by now I am very agitated. After 45 minutes, no info on the refund and as a last parting shot, she proceeded to give me lesson on rules for ticket changes and how CS' had been available 24 hours a day and that I should have made every attempt at changing the ticket even if it meant waiting hours at a time and that the fact that they were experiencing website problems and call volume issues was no excuse. I promptly told her to keep the refund and I hung up. You know in hindsight I should have just booked with AS.
#3021
Moderator: United Airlines




Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA LT Plat 2MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 73,175
We both purchased the least expensive tickets available. She is being rewarded for purchasing hers a day later, not for choosing to pay $20 more for a higher booking code. Buying up to T was not an option presented to me, nor should it be as that would open up that ugly can of worms that encourages 1K's flying internationally to gamble by buying up to W for a chance to upgrade with a GPU.
#3022
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K 1MM
Posts: 455
I guess this could go on the upgrades aren't clearing thread, but it does seem conversion related. Today I had two flights that passed through my first (96 hour) upgrade window. The second had an upgrade sweep that acted as expected--R dropped from 9 to 3 and my upgrade cleared.
The first, however, did not. A reasonably full RJ with all signs suggesting an empty first class (F and A = 6, R=4, no seats taken on the seat map). No sign of any of that changing as the upgrade window should have passed. We're now at about T-88. I can think of three potential reasons. Either we are still experiencing the system not working because someone's ticket is out of sync. Or there really are times when R=4 is not sufficient. Or maybe there's an issue since this is a Shuttle America flight.
The first, however, did not. A reasonably full RJ with all signs suggesting an empty first class (F and A = 6, R=4, no seats taken on the seat map). No sign of any of that changing as the upgrade window should have passed. We're now at about T-88. I can think of three potential reasons. Either we are still experiencing the system not working because someone's ticket is out of sync. Or there really are times when R=4 is not sufficient. Or maybe there's an issue since this is a Shuttle America flight.
#3023
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: Plenty
Posts: 227
E-mail from "Corporate Customer Care" in response to having sent an e-mail to 1K about three weeks ago:
"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."
I have spent about 8 hours on the phone since 3/3 for issues which should (a) never have gone wrong, or (b) would have been fixed in a few minutes in the past. And all I am being told is to call the 1K line. Thank you very much.
At least I can rest assured: "This (thankfully) once-in-a-lifetime conversion was tough, but successful."
I'd like drink whatever UA(CO) is drinking....
"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."
I have spent about 8 hours on the phone since 3/3 for issues which should (a) never have gone wrong, or (b) would have been fixed in a few minutes in the past. And all I am being told is to call the 1K line. Thank you very much.
At least I can rest assured: "This (thankfully) once-in-a-lifetime conversion was tough, but successful."
I'd like drink whatever UA(CO) is drinking....
Last edited by iluv2fly; Apr 16, 2012 at 3:05 am Reason: per policy
#3024



Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bellingham
Programs: UA Gold MM
Posts: 732
Of course, if you buy a Y- or B-up fare, you jump to the head of the line if you don't clear on purchase.
#3025
Moderator: United Airlines




Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA LT Plat 2MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 73,175
you can do this on the "new" united site (could not on the PMUA site)
#3026
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA GS 1MM, DL SLV, SPG PLT, Marriott GLD
Posts: 6
Looks like GPU's and RPU's earned during 2012 are posting. My RPU's posted yesterday and my GPU's posted today.
Interesting points:
1. The expiration dates are the dates actually posted to my account and not the actual dates earned. In my case, two extra months of life. Seems logical because I did not have effective use of the Upgrade Instruments during the period of time that they were withheld from my account. I was ready to argue if UA had tried to backdate the Instruments and I am somewhat surprised that they didn't try to do this. Maybe they realized the kind of blunder they created in an attempt to reduce mileage earned with a "shrinking globe".
2. Like a number of others here, I received 150% mileage bonus for NC upgrades that cleared on PMUA prior to 3/3 and showed up as Z in my account summary. These bonuses have not been corrected. The aggregate amount of my "mistake" bonuses is in excess of 15,000 miles, enough to award me 2 additional RPU's that I should not have received credit for. Maybe a decision has been reached to "let these slide". Otherwise, it would seem to be a rather lame approach to go back in, correct the mistake Z bonuses and then take away GPU's and RPU's. But maybe that is just another example of the inept IT department trying to fix the problems (that they created in the first place) at the new UA.
Interesting points:
1. The expiration dates are the dates actually posted to my account and not the actual dates earned. In my case, two extra months of life. Seems logical because I did not have effective use of the Upgrade Instruments during the period of time that they were withheld from my account. I was ready to argue if UA had tried to backdate the Instruments and I am somewhat surprised that they didn't try to do this. Maybe they realized the kind of blunder they created in an attempt to reduce mileage earned with a "shrinking globe".
2. Like a number of others here, I received 150% mileage bonus for NC upgrades that cleared on PMUA prior to 3/3 and showed up as Z in my account summary. These bonuses have not been corrected. The aggregate amount of my "mistake" bonuses is in excess of 15,000 miles, enough to award me 2 additional RPU's that I should not have received credit for. Maybe a decision has been reached to "let these slide". Otherwise, it would seem to be a rather lame approach to go back in, correct the mistake Z bonuses and then take away GPU's and RPU's. But maybe that is just another example of the inept IT department trying to fix the problems (that they created in the first place) at the new UA.
#3027
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 72,309
E-mail from "Corporate Customer Care" in response to having sent an e-mail to 1K about three weeks ago:
"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."
"I am sorry to hear about all the problems that you had .... I would like to recommend that you call our Premier Priority Desk at XXX XXX XXXX. Calling the number will connect you to a Premier Priority Desk customer service representative specially trained to answer questions pertaining to our Premier travelers."
Last edited by iluv2fly; Apr 16, 2012 at 3:05 am Reason: quote
#3028
Moderator, Omni, Omni/PR, Omni/Games, FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Between DCA and IAD
Programs: UA 1K MM; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 72,666
You can specify fare class at time of booking (that was the one benefit PMCO's web site brought over PMUA .bomb), but TMK you cannot buy up (aside from offers to buy up to a F-eligible fare) without calling in--and will then get dinged with a change fee to boot.
#3029
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: iad/dca
Programs: UA Million Mile Gold, Club, AA, Delta, Marriott, Hertz G, A/Club
Posts: 1,106
Rio trip Friday the 13th
Never managed to check in online due to systems glitches. Was also unable to check in at the kiosk so had to rely on a patient PMUA employee to work her way through the new system to generate boarding asses. Seemed like they had a lot of people on the counters compared to normal. It appears I may have actually been checked in (or at least the system had captured all my check in data) but the system would not issue the boarding passes or tell me I was already checked in so I would not keep trying. On positive side the 777 with in setback EFI screen is great. Makes traveling in the back of the plane much better. Service was with a smile the whole way. Dulles lounge was SRO. Food was edible. Drink chits helped.
#3030
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: ORD, LHR
Programs: UA GS/2M Miles, AA 1M Miles
Posts: 58
I'm updated
It is with great relief that I can announce that my account is finally updated. RPU/GPUs posted, star alliance flights finally posted, mileage short due to CO mileage tables has been been posted. My account actually has exactly the same amount of miles as what I manually track. I suppose I shouldn't be this exited but I am. Well done.


