Global Premier (fka Systemwide) Upgrades on Lufthansa?
May 29, 2012, 12:55 pm
#136
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You can request the upgrade on the day of your flight at the airport. Each SWU is good for one segment so it would take 2 SWU's to go BKK-FRA-MIA. If the upgrade doesn't clear you can send the paper SWU's back to United for re-deposit in your account.. the paper SWU's aren't good on United flights.
May 29, 2012, 12:57 pm
#137
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Hand them over when you check in for your flight (at the airport is the only place you can use them) and see if you clear. Each SWU is good for one segment.
May 29, 2012, 7:16 pm
#138
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Thank you lets see what happens
May 31, 2012, 6:39 pm
#139
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Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ?
I frequently buy UA tickets, operated by LH, and use the UA SWU paper upgrade certs (with frequent success).
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
May 31, 2012, 7:39 pm
#140
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Absolutely in PMUA. My friend did this.
I frequently buy UA tickets, operated by LH, and use the UA SWU paper upgrade certs (with frequent success).
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
Jun 1, 2012, 7:09 am
#141
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Absolutely in PMUA. My friend did this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by badata2d
I frequently buy UA tickets, operated by LH, and use the UA SWU paper upgrade certs (with frequent success).
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
Quote:
Originally Posted by badata2d
I frequently buy UA tickets, operated by LH, and use the UA SWU paper upgrade certs (with frequent success).
On my next trip, without thinking, I accidently bought the tickets under LH directly. Can I use UA SWU paper upgrades on a LH ticket, operated by LH ??
thanks in advance, too tired to read through the 117 posts in swu thread !!
Jun 1, 2012, 7:36 am
#142
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I always use UA paper GPU/SWUs on tickets booked by LH on LH flight numbers, no problems.
Jun 8, 2012, 6:06 am
#143
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Pretty much. Usually if they can they will upgrade you at check in. From airports like JFK, ORD, FRA if an F seat is avail then no problem. Where you might have a problem is coming back to Germany from smaller stations with 1 or 2 flts a day where they don't do there own catering (Many African/Mid East Countries). They may not have extra catering for more pax then were booked. LH is not UA. They will NEVER ask for your 2nd choice, etc. if there is not enough FCL MEALS for everyone to have what they want, they may not upgrade you
DXB-FRA/MUC in summer usually have light loads so you should not have a problem. AUG is a good month as its to hot for most people to travel TO DXB and most locals are already gone for the summer so FLTS FROM DXB are lighter (I usually switch from EK to LH in summer as we spend allot of time in Germany / France and I don't think I have EVER been on a full LH 747 from DXB in summer. Usually half full. (DXB Station is not good about upgrading at check in (they don't use LH staff, they use DNATA ground staff. It important to make sure they put you on the list and when you get to the gate, FIND one of the true LH employees and ask them - go to gate early so they have enough time to load a meal for you.
DXB-FRA/MUC in summer usually have light loads so you should not have a problem. AUG is a good month as its to hot for most people to travel TO DXB and most locals are already gone for the summer so FLTS FROM DXB are lighter (I usually switch from EK to LH in summer as we spend allot of time in Germany / France and I don't think I have EVER been on a full LH 747 from DXB in summer. Usually half full. (DXB Station is not good about upgrading at check in (they don't use LH staff, they use DNATA ground staff. It important to make sure they put you on the list and when you get to the gate, FIND one of the true LH employees and ask them - go to gate early so they have enough time to load a meal for you.
Yes, LH only has one Upgrade Booking Class (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#LH), which is used for all types of upgrades, including UA MP GPUs.
Jun 8, 2012, 6:08 am
#144
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Jun 8, 2012, 6:17 am
#145
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I think it would be helpful if we could post the LH fares from most expensive to cheapest in each fare class. Then denote which is eligible for upgrades using the SWU's from UA. I don't know the specifics of LH's code hierarchy thus I'm asking for help as I'm getting this from LH's website.
For Business class on LH
eligible = C D J / not eligible = Z P
For Economy class on LH
eligible = B Y G H M Q U V / not eligible = W E K L S T
I know LH has some different codes that UA doesn't use but is this correct? I have only included the revenue buckets, not upgrades/award buckets as those obviously aren't allowed.
Well God Bless LH for making it more customer friendly.
For Business class on LH
eligible = C D J / not eligible = Z P
For Economy class on LH
eligible = B Y G H M Q U V / not eligible = W E K L S T
I know LH has some different codes that UA doesn't use but is this correct? I have only included the revenue buckets, not upgrades/award buckets as those obviously aren't allowed.
Well God Bless LH for making it more customer friendly.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Jun 8, 2012 at 10:15 am Reason: merge
Jun 8, 2012, 6:37 am
#146
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For fare class ranking see post #7 here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...01jul2011.html
It should be the same as UA for across the pond. P has been added may 1 and is below Z.
J-D and Y-V are upgradable with paper GPUs, additionally M&M members can upgrade W & S. Anything else is systematically blocked in the DCS that LH uses.
It should be the same as UA for across the pond. P has been added may 1 and is below Z.
J-D and Y-V are upgradable with paper GPUs, additionally M&M members can upgrade W & S. Anything else is systematically blocked in the DCS that LH uses.
Jun 8, 2012, 7:13 am
#147
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Great, thanks. I don't read German, but I'm guessing the columns are something like:
1. intra europe
2. north atlantic
3. everywhere else?
1. intra europe
2. north atlantic
3. everywhere else?
Jun 8, 2012, 7:18 am
#148
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and 'bisher' on top is 'up to now'
2. is north atlantic
3. is 'africa', 'middle east','asia','south america'
'Neu ab 01.07.2011' means 'new since July 1st 2011'
Jun 8, 2012, 11:00 am
#149
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Can I use them with UA Award Tickets?
Can I use these paper certificates with UA Award tickets (booked as LH flight numbers)?
I am guessing that the answer is no, and I apologize if the question was asked before in this thread.
Thanks
I am guessing that the answer is no, and I apologize if the question was asked before in this thread.
Thanks
Jun 8, 2012, 11:09 am
#150
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Thanks. So column 1 is for short flights. I assume that means intra europe since that isn't listed in the other 2.