Local lockdowns in the UK
#8283
Join Date: May 2014
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What’s the latest on the affects of this variant? Are there any latest studies showing good or bad news? Whilst I see cases rising, what’s the impact on healthcare?
No comments on this statement please but the media seem to be really trumpeting this. Rightly or wrongly.
Mr C-W-S do you have any of your marvellous insights?
No comments on this statement please but the media seem to be really trumpeting this. Rightly or wrongly.
Mr C-W-S do you have any of your marvellous insights?
Maybe a mask mandate with a bit more oomph to that and the end to the legalised fraud that is the self declared exemption would be useful.
#8284
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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My Christmas plans have just become much more complicated.
My boss, whom I had meetings with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, has tested positive. She was sick all week but had a daily negative LFD. She booked a PCR on Thursday despite it just being normal cold symptoms and not "the three" and it's positive.
I am due to fly on Wednesday and I have multiple tests during the travels, plus Christmas with someone very vulnerable on Friday, so can't afford to quarantine abroad nor get him sick - he wouldn't survive it.
I was masked and 2m away for each meeting those 3 days, but they were about an hour each day. On Thursday just before she decided to leave I was close to her but only a few minutes. My booster was two weeks ago tomorrow. So I hope that somehow I will be ok, especially since I've been lightly dosing on covid from contacts for several months now, but I'm not feeling too optimistic. I wasn't contact traced but can't afford to travel and be positive. (Though the whole trip is non refundable so it'd all be a disaster.)
I've done 6 (!) LFDs since last night and so far, all negative. But I guess my riskiest meeting was when she was the most ill most recently, Wednesday evening, and the five minutes on Thursday.
Hoping my booster will keep the infection away but her false LFD negatives make me nervous. Hopefully my PCR test today is negative but not sure if a negative PCR now should reassure me since I did see her on Monday and Tuesday and she was already sick by then, or if I should go ahead with my PCRs tomorrow and Monday to be more sure because of my contacts on Wednesday etc? If I caught it during the week, would I already be showing it now?
Any thoughts at all would be greatly welcome...
My boss, whom I had meetings with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, has tested positive. She was sick all week but had a daily negative LFD. She booked a PCR on Thursday despite it just being normal cold symptoms and not "the three" and it's positive.
I am due to fly on Wednesday and I have multiple tests during the travels, plus Christmas with someone very vulnerable on Friday, so can't afford to quarantine abroad nor get him sick - he wouldn't survive it.
I was masked and 2m away for each meeting those 3 days, but they were about an hour each day. On Thursday just before she decided to leave I was close to her but only a few minutes. My booster was two weeks ago tomorrow. So I hope that somehow I will be ok, especially since I've been lightly dosing on covid from contacts for several months now, but I'm not feeling too optimistic. I wasn't contact traced but can't afford to travel and be positive. (Though the whole trip is non refundable so it'd all be a disaster.)
I've done 6 (!) LFDs since last night and so far, all negative. But I guess my riskiest meeting was when she was the most ill most recently, Wednesday evening, and the five minutes on Thursday.
Hoping my booster will keep the infection away but her false LFD negatives make me nervous. Hopefully my PCR test today is negative but not sure if a negative PCR now should reassure me since I did see her on Monday and Tuesday and she was already sick by then, or if I should go ahead with my PCRs tomorrow and Monday to be more sure because of my contacts on Wednesday etc? If I caught it during the week, would I already be showing it now?
Any thoughts at all would be greatly welcome...
#8285
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There do seem to be credible reports that this variant incubates faster and is over faster. Nothing is proven yet but that coincides with our neighbour (aged 70) who only had symptoms on one day and didn’t get a positive test until the day after.
I am afraid the only options are either to rely on the PCR or not to go. It’s the latter for us - we’ve just been uninvited for Christmas because we live in London and are therefore too dangerous.
I am afraid the only options are either to rely on the PCR or not to go. It’s the latter for us - we’ve just been uninvited for Christmas because we live in London and are therefore too dangerous.
#8286
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My Christmas plans have just become much more complicated.
My boss, whom I had meetings with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, has tested positive. She was sick all week but had a daily negative LFD. She booked a PCR on Thursday despite it just being normal cold symptoms and not "the three" and it's positive.
I am due to fly on Wednesday and I have multiple tests during the travels, plus Christmas with someone very vulnerable on Friday, so can't afford to quarantine abroad nor get him sick - he wouldn't survive it.
I was masked and 2m away for each meeting those 3 days, but they were about an hour each day. On Thursday just before she decided to leave I was close to her but only a few minutes. My booster was two weeks ago tomorrow. So I hope that somehow I will be ok, especially since I've been lightly dosing on covid from contacts for several months now, but I'm not feeling too optimistic. I wasn't contact traced but can't afford to travel and be positive. (Though the whole trip is non refundable so it'd all be a disaster.)
I've done 6 (!) LFDs since last night and so far, all negative. But I guess my riskiest meeting was when she was the most ill most recently, Wednesday evening, and the five minutes on Thursday.
Hoping my booster will keep the infection away but her false LFD negatives make me nervous. Hopefully my PCR test today is negative but not sure if a negative PCR now should reassure me since I did see her on Monday and Tuesday and she was already sick by then, or if I should go ahead with my PCRs tomorrow and Monday to be more sure because of my contacts on Wednesday etc? If I caught it during the week, would I already be showing it now?
Any thoughts at all would be greatly welcome...
My boss, whom I had meetings with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, has tested positive. She was sick all week but had a daily negative LFD. She booked a PCR on Thursday despite it just being normal cold symptoms and not "the three" and it's positive.
I am due to fly on Wednesday and I have multiple tests during the travels, plus Christmas with someone very vulnerable on Friday, so can't afford to quarantine abroad nor get him sick - he wouldn't survive it.
I was masked and 2m away for each meeting those 3 days, but they were about an hour each day. On Thursday just before she decided to leave I was close to her but only a few minutes. My booster was two weeks ago tomorrow. So I hope that somehow I will be ok, especially since I've been lightly dosing on covid from contacts for several months now, but I'm not feeling too optimistic. I wasn't contact traced but can't afford to travel and be positive. (Though the whole trip is non refundable so it'd all be a disaster.)
I've done 6 (!) LFDs since last night and so far, all negative. But I guess my riskiest meeting was when she was the most ill most recently, Wednesday evening, and the five minutes on Thursday.
Hoping my booster will keep the infection away but her false LFD negatives make me nervous. Hopefully my PCR test today is negative but not sure if a negative PCR now should reassure me since I did see her on Monday and Tuesday and she was already sick by then, or if I should go ahead with my PCRs tomorrow and Monday to be more sure because of my contacts on Wednesday etc? If I caught it during the week, would I already be showing it now?
Any thoughts at all would be greatly welcome...
#8287
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An example impact on healthcare is that one smaller NHS trust in London has approaching 100 staff with new infections today that daily figure having risen from half that number earlier this week, making a cumulative impact of several hundred staff now unable to work. Wind back two to three weeks to Delta days it was single figures staff reporting as new infections per day with the cumulative total well 50 at any one moment.
What I know in the specific trust I know the exact detail for is not unusual when compared to other NHS trusts across London.
So basically the hospitals are under real pressure for staff. And that's before you take into account more patients turning up presenting with COVID.
Rinse and repeat in other essential services, public sector or private, to varying degrees.
What I know in the specific trust I know the exact detail for is not unusual when compared to other NHS trusts across London.
So basically the hospitals are under real pressure for staff. And that's before you take into account more patients turning up presenting with COVID.
Rinse and repeat in other essential services, public sector or private, to varying degrees.
#8288
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All these negative LFD results make me uncomfortable!
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#8290
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Ouch, sorry to hear this. To me this would be about risk mitigation: if I were in your shoes, I would do an LFT once or perhaps twice a day (first thing, and before dinner?) - any more than that seems like a waste of them tbh.
I would also leave it as long as possible to make a decision about whether to fly or not - decide on Tuesday if possible.
I don't know if you already have to take a PCR for your destination, but even if not strictly necessary it might be an idea even if you're asymptomatic, again leaving it as late as possible. By Tuesday, if you can get a same-day one, that's almost a full week since you were last exposed (to your boss, at least). You might possibly still develop symptoms, but I would imagine the odds are much more in your favour by that point...
Good luck!
I would also leave it as long as possible to make a decision about whether to fly or not - decide on Tuesday if possible.
I don't know if you already have to take a PCR for your destination, but even if not strictly necessary it might be an idea even if you're asymptomatic, again leaving it as late as possible. By Tuesday, if you can get a same-day one, that's almost a full week since you were last exposed (to your boss, at least). You might possibly still develop symptoms, but I would imagine the odds are much more in your favour by that point...
Good luck!
#8291
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I don't know if you already have to take a PCR for your destination, but even if not strictly necessary it might be an idea even if you're asymptomatic, again leaving it as late as possible. By Tuesday, if you can get a same-day one, that's almost a full week since you were last exposed (to your boss, at least). You might possibly still develop symptoms, but I would imagine the odds are much more in your favour by that point..
#8292
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Ouch, sorry to hear this. To me this would be about risk mitigation: if I were in your shoes, I would do an LFT once or perhaps twice a day (first thing, and before dinner?) - any more than that seems like a waste of them tbh.
I would also leave it as long as possible to make a decision about whether to fly or not - decide on Tuesday if possible.
I don't know if you already have to take a PCR for your destination, but even if not strictly necessary it might be an idea even if you're asymptomatic, again leaving it as late as possible. By Tuesday, if you can get a same-day one, that's almost a full week since you were last exposed (to your boss, at least). You might possibly still develop symptoms, but I would imagine the odds are much more in your favour by that point...
Good luck!
I would also leave it as long as possible to make a decision about whether to fly or not - decide on Tuesday if possible.
I don't know if you already have to take a PCR for your destination, but even if not strictly necessary it might be an idea even if you're asymptomatic, again leaving it as late as possible. By Tuesday, if you can get a same-day one, that's almost a full week since you were last exposed (to your boss, at least). You might possibly still develop symptoms, but I would imagine the odds are much more in your favour by that point...
Good luck!
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...isolation.html
I think with 1-2 negative PCRs, especially one on Tuesday, you might be ok to go, and assuming you feel fine (no symptoms).
Last edited by nk15; Dec 19, 2021 at 12:20 am
#8293
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I'll go ahead with my PCR tomorrow and Monday and hope I stay negative. So far still nothing with the LFD.
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